if you take out the craziest votes who might just be trolling 10-2/9-3 for either fighter then as of right now it is 54.15% for GGG to 40.12% for Jacobs, good competitive fight.
Yep, it was close but most people saw GGG win. Still close, though.
if you take out the craziest votes who might just be trolling 10-2/9-3 for either fighter then as of right now it is 54.15% for GGG to 40.12% for Jacobs, good competitive fight.
About 7-5 for GGG. I could see it 6-6 but even with the KD, GGG still wins.
No way did Jacobs win more than 6 rounds.
For me it was basically similar to Kovalev v Ward but the right man got the decision this time. Ward and Jacobs both did well but fell short when you tally up the winning rounds and bring factors like a Knockdown into play.
Watched again today for 3rd time and have to say the fight wasn't really that close, 8-4 to Golovkin. Jacobs couldn't get much done in the early rounds and was losing the boxing match.
Golovkin started getting sloppy in the middle rounds looking for the KO but by round 9 reeled it back in by hurting Jacobs and taking 2 of the final three rounds.
Coming down from the adrenaline rush doesn't help Jacobs. He mostly held in the early going and most of his power punches where more like slaps on the Calzaghe level.
He landed the harder shots. Trust me no-one knows more.about scoring a fight than me. I had it 115-112 so that's that, not open to debate.this post actually made me laugh out loud, good one m8
speaking of harder shots we should just score by compubox power shots per round then. Jacobs wins 8-4 if you do that. Sounds fair
On live watch around like 5 other people I had it a draw with round 1 a 10-10 and giving GGG round 12 to even it up. 2 of my friends had it 115-112 GGG and anothe had it Jacobs by 2 points. So it could be seen many different ways I think.
Gotta watch again tonight and check back in with an updated score. I'm going to really watch the first round hard and give it to someone this time and declare a winner one way or the other.
This poll is crazy, nearly a perfect bell curve! Inverted in the middle, but great symmetry.
Needs to be a rematch- December '17, February '18 or March '18. Let Golovkin knock off BJS & Canelo in June/Sept and get Danny a big fight as well vs Lemieux/Lee/Eubank/Charlo/N'Dam.
The other thread was close as well. NSB is very split on this fight.
115 112 ggg and i genuinely think I'm giving Jacobs the benefit of the doubt, could easily have been 116-111. Landed very few memorable shots. At least ggg was landing jabs and pressing the action. If you fight on the defensive you better make sure your clearly landing memorable shots. Jacobs didn't do that and he was outlanded in 9 of the rounds. Robbery cries are simply laughable.
you dont win rounds just by landing a few more punches via compubox man thats completely irrelevant.. you voted 7-5 GG. But by your logic its really 9-3 GG since he landed more punches..
The first time I watched it I had Jacobs winning 11 rounds to 1
The second time I watched it I had Golovkin winning 11 rounds to 1
Watching it for the third time now fellas, wish me luck :dance:
Which brings me to my next point. There is no way in hell a ringside judge can effectively gauge what is landing and what is not. The scoring system is flawed, complete BS, subjective and they probably get it wrong 40% of the time. It's not a matter of right or wrong. It's a matter of reasonable. And last night was a great night of boxing because the scoring was reasonable for all of the fights.
This **** is not baseball. It's figure skating. You watch a performance take place and judge it based off who is performing better.
These post fight threads make me laugh. Everybody wants to be the expert on fight scoring when you can't guage what's effective and what's not, you're not taking the punches. Some can't even tell if a punch snapped his head back or the fighter rolled with the shot.
Watch Duran fight. They penalize him for getting hit when in actuality, he's rolling with the punch to take steam off of it. And y'all got replays and 45 different angles. A judge gets one live crack at it.
^^^Perfectly put.
It is a matter of REASONABLE scorecards.
And judges get ONE crack at it. No replays, NO do-overs.
All these posters being outraged over close scorecards and when a decision doesn't go to their fighter. I've been leaning lately towards that there aren't robberies, it's just that boxing is highly subjective. And given certain circumstances, there's a tendency to lean towards bigger stars/undefeated boxers.
Not saying that it's broken, but it's exploitable.
Case in point: I've always been a Floyd fan and watching the fight with Pacquiao live I thought he won it (Mayweather either 9-3 or 8-4).
Now, take into account First Take's Skip Bayless (used to be on it anyway). I think the grand majority of things he says boxing related is Pac-Floyd (or some permutation involving one of the two). In any case, I think 98-99% is just cringe-inducing "WTF you talking about?!" statements. However, if there was a SMALL takeaway from his salty rant the weekday after the fight that I thought had a sliver of truth to it, it was the following:
"If you take this fight and put it in a vacuum, where you don't know who Pacquiao is and you don't know who Mayweather is...Pacquiao wins it. It's just that the Mayweather mystique is so great."
I don't know if Pacquiao wins it, but it would've perhaps been scored a lot closer.
I'm not declaring it now, I've long been saying it. Mayweather-Pacquiao was perhaps Mayweather's most significant win, but it wasn't a masterclass or one of his best performances. It was a bland fight. Not blaming him, but I don't think he was necessarily imposing or authoritative as most Floyd fans would have you believe.
Furthermore, Bernard Hopkins once said in an interview (regarding Leonard-Hagler) that he thought Hagler won it, but because Leonard was THE guy and he appealed to the public, it would be easier for him to win a decision versus some other guy; that who you are and the public's perception all plays a role into the outcome of a fight. (From the book: Four Kings)
Boxing is subjective, whether people want to accept it or not.
ON TOPIC:
I watched a Russian telecast of GGG-Jacobs at 3:30 am a few hours after the live telecast. I had Jacobs edging it 114-113.
Jacobs winning: 1,2,3,6,7,10,11
GGG winning: 4,5,8,9,12
With the point deduction from the knockdown, 114-113 for Jacobs. There were a couple rounds in there that I felt could've gone either way, though. It wasn't a robbery. It was a competitive fight, and the scoring was reasonable.
This poll is crazy, nearly a perfect bell curve! Inverted in the middle, but great symmetry.
Needs to be a rematch- December '17, February '18 or March '18. Let Golovkin knock off BJS & Canelo in June/Sept and get Danny a big fight as well vs Lemieux/Lee/Eubank/Charlo/N'Dam.
I scored 6 apiece with the knock down as the difference. It was a tight fight with a ton of swing rounds. Only round that weren't swing rounds were 4 for GGG and 6 & 10 for DJ.
GGG/DJ
1--10/9 (tight)
2--10/9 (tight)
3--10/9 (tight)
4--10/8
5--10/9 (tight)
6--9/10
7--9/10 (tight)
8--9/10
9--10/9 (tight)
10--9/10
11--9/10 (tight)
12--9/10 (tight)
114/113
I think the only thing that differs is vision lol You're either seeing the shots land or you're not.
Which brings me to my next point. There is no way in hell a ringside judge can effectively gauge what is landing and what is not. The scoring system is flawed, complete BS, subjective and they probably get it wrong 40% of the time. It's not a matter of right or wrong. It's a matter of reasonable. And last night was a great night of boxing because the scoring was reasonable for all of the fights.
This **** is not baseball. It's figure skating. You watch a performance take place and judge it based off who is performing better.
These post fight threads make me laugh. Everybody wants to be the expert on fight scoring when you can't guage what's effective and what's not, you're not taking the punches. Some can't even tell if a punch snapped his head back or the fighter rolled with the shot.
Watch Duran fight. They penalize him for getting hit when in actuality, he's rolling with the punch to take steam off of it. And y'all got replays and 45 different angles. A judge gets one live crack at it.