The fact is LHW is the weakest division...

You're not supposed to entertain the troll but this one is so bad you can't help it and he is so convinced he's right and continues to post the same stuff despite being repeatedly told he's wrong

Well you can't seriously think badou jack is a better fighter than kovalev or ward. Rather than argue with you people are just going to speculate about the punchline.

Lol @ manginas gossiping about cheerleading squads. Chicken head logic. Tfoh Bring logic and facts

Simple, they're golovtards. The dumbest, gayest fanbase boxing has ever produced. Eh usually Golovkin fans don't hate Kovalev, Hopkins, biev etc. They specifically hate Ward. Seems like just a troll.

Simple, they're golovtards. The dumbest, gayest fanbase boxing has ever produced. That's canelos fans and most golovkin fans are kovalev fans soo..

just facts. SMW do not even have 40 yr olds as title holders. LHW has a SMW as a title holder. A 40 ex con pimp. A full time cement mixer. And a 50 yr old. LHW is a complete joke. The only reason it's upheld is because dark complexion. LOL @ 50 yr old hopkins is still hopkins. Is 40 yr old GOAT Muhammad Ali still Muhammad Ali after Holmes blungeoned him?

As a division it has pretty much everything. Past, present and future. A disputed rivalry between two of the p4p best fighters in boxing (Kovalev/Ward). A retiring hall-of-famer who passed the torch via a sound beating (Hopkins). Dangerous wildcards/up-and-comers like Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Smith. Solid/depth guys like Pascal, Cleverly. And a very gradual dropoff from there. No cliff An ex pedophile coward who ducked everyone and held the lineal title hostage into his 40s because in quebec they'd pay to see him punch a bowl of jello (Stevenson). I don't really see how anyone can dislike 175 or say it sucks. What exactly is it missing? Other than the Stevenson problem. Simple, they're golovtards. The dumbest, gayest fanbase boxing has ever produced.

Shoutout to HeadShots for the comedy show, one funny troll!

Oh then you're just kidding around lol yeah badou jack and james degale are better than kovalev and ward........................... lol skill for skill. attribute for attribute. Absolutely. Kovalev has a 4 round gas tank. Both Degale and Jack has 12 rounds. Kovalev has no inside game. Both degale and Jack fought on the outside and went to the body throughout the fight. Ward has no offensive game. None without illegal tactics. Degale and Jack both can crack with both hands. clean skills. Ward is 1 handed. left. no rights. Degale and Jack both do. Ward is the most overrated boxer in the modern era. his boxing style would not win a single fight outside of biased judging/refereeing. The hold and hit, running tackle + headbutt is just a disgrace. Ward can have the same fight he did against Bika or Kessler in anywhere outside the US, he would be disqualified.

I already did in the OP "The 2 SMW's that fought lastnight were more skilled. They had a variety of punches. Great defense on both sides and they both had stamina to go 12 hard rounds. No illegal tactics. Clean boxing skills." They do not have any 50 yr olds as top contenders. They do not have any full time laborers as their boxing champs. They don't even have 40 yr old ex-cons. Imagine that. Oh then you're just kidding around lol yeah badou jack and james degale are better than kovalev and ward........................... lol

yup when Foreman beat Moorer for the title. that was regarded as the worst era in HW boxing. When a bricklayer beat hopkins in his 50's for a title that took the worst era in boxing to a whole new level. there are no excuses. Hopkins is 50 damn years old. Nobody is great at 50. Not ali, not holmes, not foreman. there is only bad competition. So your big criticism of the division is that Hopkins got old (???) Smith is not a champion he's just a wildcard at this point and Kovalev-Hopkins happened in 2014. It's 2017. Hopkins came back for a farewell fight. He is not currently a top contender, he handed the torch off 3 years ago. Sad thing is a 90 year old hopkins could probably clean out 168 right now

I'm curious to see you address 168, 135 using the same style of analysis I already did in the OP "The 2 SMW's that fought lastnight were more skilled. They had a variety of punches. Great defense on both sides and they both had stamina to go 12 hard rounds. No illegal tactics. Clean boxing skills." They do not have any 50 yr olds as top contenders. They do not have any full time laborers as their boxing champs. They don't even have 40 yr old ex-cons. Imagine that.

beterbiev is an unproven prospect on the level of Wade before he faced golovkin. Stevenson is a 40 yr old ex pimp. That's because the division is garbage. Hopkins is a 50 yr old. not even ali was a top contenders past his 40's. The only reason Hopkins is competitive in his 50's is because the dviision is trash. Smith is a bricklayer by trade. how are you going to be doing a full time physical job by day and be a boxing champ by night? BAD COMPETITION Ward has 0 offensive arsenal outside of the running clinch. Just a jab. no right hand. no power. Kovalev is a 4 round fighter who has no inside game. the division is terrible. I'm curious to see you address 168, 135 using the same style of analysis

Again, Joe Smith Jr is not a world champion and B-Hop is not a "top contender in his 50's." He fought once after turning 50 and using an extreme outlier as your main argument point makes this whole thread pretty much invalid. Besides the fact that you're just wrong to begin with yup when Foreman beat Moorer for the title. that was regarded as the worst era in HW boxing. When a bricklayer beat hopkins in his 50's for a title that took the worst era in boxing to a whole new level. there are no excuses. Hopkins is 50 damn years old. Nobody is great at 50. Not ali, not holmes, not foreman. there is only bad competition.

As a division it has pretty much everything. Past, present and future. A disputed rivalry between two of the p4p best fighters in boxing (Kovalev/Ward). A retiring hall-of-famer who passed the torch via a sound beating (Hopkins). Dangerous wildcards/up-and-comers like Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Smith. Solid/depth guys like Pascal, Cleverly. And a very gradual dropoff from there. No cliff An ex pedophile coward who ducked everyone and held the lineal title hostage into his 40s because in quebec they'd pay to see him punch a bowl of jello (Stevenson). I don't really see how anyone can dislike 175 or say it sucks. What exactly is it missing? Other than the Stevenson problem. beterbiev is an unproven prospect on the level of Wade before he faced golovkin. Stevenson is a 40 yr old ex pimp. That's because the division is garbage. Hopkins is a 50 yr old. not even ali was a top contenders past his 40's. The only reason Hopkins is competitive in his 50's is because the dviision is trash. Smith is a bricklayer by trade. how are you going to be doing a full time physical job by day and be a boxing champ by night? BAD COMPETITION Ward has 0 offensive arsenal outside of the running clinch. Just a jab. no right hand. no power. Kovalev is a 4 round fighter who has no inside game. the division is terrible.

name another division that has a top contenders in their 50's and a full time brick layer as one of their champions . Again, Joe Smith Jr is not a world champion and B-Hop is not a "top contender in his 50's." He fought once after turning 50 and using an extreme outlier as your main argument point makes this whole thread pretty much invalid. Besides the fact that you're just wrong to begin with

As a division it has pretty much everything. Past, present and future. A disputed rivalry between two of the p4p best fighters in boxing (Kovalev/Ward). A retiring hall-of-famer who passed the torch via a sound beating (Hopkins). Dangerous wildcards/up-and-comers like Beterbiev, Gvozdyk, Smith. Solid/depth guys like Pascal, Cleverly. And a very gradual dropoff from there. No cliff An ex pedophile coward who ducked everyone and held the lineal title hostage into his 40s because in quebec they'd pay to see him punch a bowl of jello (Stevenson). I don't really see how anyone can dislike 175 or say it sucks. What exactly is it missing? Other than the Stevenson problem.

This is fucking pathetic. name another division that has a top contenders in their 50's and a full time brick layer as one of their champions simultaneously LHW is worse than the era of HW's when Michael Moorer became champ and Foreman beat him for the strap. At least Moorer was a full time fighter and Foreman was only in his 40's. LHW is up running for the worst division in boxing history.

Trolling. Light heavy os one of the best divisions in boxing tiop to bottom. Ward moves up and gets battered

This is fucking pathetic.