Not for me IMO. GGG is in about most peoples top 5 p4p which is a bit high IMO but a win over Jacobs would definitely justify him being in the top 5. Jacobs isn't a p4p fighter so I dont think its a good enough win to elevate him to #1 p4p. I mean shoot, look at Ward. He beat another fellow p4p fighter in Kovalev and even that wasn't good enough to put him #1.
If Golovkin gets a 1st round KO and Gonzalez either loses or scrapes out a close win then Golovkin might have a shaky claim on the #1 spot until the Ward-Kovalev rematch.
Got him 2nd in my list currently, if he does a real number on jacobs then yeah, i'd probably have him top. Hes the most dominant champion in the sport, that for me is enough to justify consideration for being pound for pound number 1. Sorry if that upsets the sad bunch of parasites that ruin this forum but it is what it is..
I know your pea sized brain is clouded with man love for g string and you would gladly provide oral gratification to g string upon demand, but you just can't claim that the most dominant champion in boxing is a fighter with exactly ZERO quality wins so far.
The argument that who did he beat in the p4p list to be p4p is retarded as 90 percent of the p4p list didn't beat any fighters on the p4p rankings. Same people that discredit the rankings are the same people who mention the list when it comes to ggg. Who did gonzalez beat in the p4p to be p4p number 1?
Gallito estrada, that alone trumps anything on gggs ****y resume..
Exactly.
There's nobody @ 160 or even 168 who Bumlokvin could beat that puts him @ #1 P4P. He'd have to go up and beat one of the top guys @ 175 in order to be in the conversation, IMO...
Ummmm... what is the reason for a p4p list again?
Oh that's right, to judge each boxer in their respective weight class. If SRR had a weak division but HW was strong, he doesn't have to fight at HW to be best p4p, this is the fundamental reason for P4P. Otherwise, why have a theoretical list - just get everyone to fight each other, including chocolatito vs joshua.
Some divisions are weaker than others, and for that reason, you have to use your eyes. Looking at resumes on boxrec to find p4p is not the way to do it.
Got him 2nd in my list currently, if he does a real number on jacobs then yeah, i'd probably have him top. Hes the most dominant champion in the sport, that for me is enough to justify consideration for being pound for pound number 1. Sorry if that upsets the sad bunch of parasites that ruin this forum but it is what it is..
The argument that who did he beat in the p4p list to be p4p is retarded as 90 percent of the p4p list didn't beat any fighters on the p4p rankings. Same people that discredit the rankings are the same people who mention the list when it comes to ggg. Who did gonzalez beat in the p4p to be p4p number 1?
How can you even say he is overrated? What evidence is there? He absolutely schooled Abraham with ease and has cleaned up anyone who has crossed his path.
He's the only fighter at SMW right now that is completely dominant and he would be the best fight in the division easily.
He struggled with a c level fighter in maxim vlasov. I saw fight on hbo. He has zero chance to beat ggg.
How can you even say he is overrated? What evidence is there? He absolutely schooled Abraham with ease and has cleaned up anyone who has crossed his path.
He's the only fighter at SMW right now that is completely dominant and he would be the best fight in the division easily.
What evidence there is that he is that good. Solid fighter but unproven. Have you really watched Abraham's career especially of late? Good name on a resume and his best win is a Taylor KO.
The best two SMW right now are fighting each other early next year
Zurdo is over-rated. If G cleans up all the champs in his division he can't be denied. There are good challenges at 168 but is up to him if he wants to go up a division if he is comfortable at 160, he is in his mid thirties
How can you even say he is overrated? What evidence is there? He absolutely schooled Abraham with ease and has cleaned up anyone who has crossed his path.
He's the only fighter at SMW right now that is completely dominant and he would be the best fight in the division easily.
Speaks volumes about his resume. His best win will be against a guy who featherfisted Mora knocked down. Him being his best name doesn't take away from this fight having a clear favorite because the other guy is chinny. Jacobs being chinny and the fight being highly predictable doesn't take away from Jacobs being the best name so far.
The fight will be both, GGG's best win to date and predictable/most fans think of one outcome.
Kell Brook was his previous best name, that didn't take away that it was a mismatch.
Didn't read, but I'm 100% certain you followed the template that you were quoting.
Nope. It'll be a solid win though.
He'll have to beat someone like Canelo or Zurdo to get up the rankings.
Zurdo is over-rated. If G cleans up all the champs in his division he can't be denied. There are good challenges at 168 but is up to him if he wants to go up a division if he is comfortable at 160, he is in his mid thirties
Very odd thread... Who cares about smth as subjective as p4p list? His rabid fans already have him p4p regardless and his haters will never acknowledge that he's doing good. So nothing will really change.
You could start a thread about gluten free diets on NSB and it would end up being about Golovkin.
Very odd thread... Who cares about smth as subjective as p4p list? His rabid fans already have him p4p regardless and his haters will never acknowledge that he's doing good. So nothing will really change.
You have to take in to account losses as well. p4P isn't all about resume. You can give points to lomo for beating russell and walters but at the same time minus a point for losing to a journeyman like salido who has 9 losses. GGG has barely lost rounds in the last 23 fights. No fighter has been as dominant as ggg. You can cry opposition all you want but he makes them look like trash.
There's plenty of fighters in the p4p who haven't beaten p4p fighters. Gonzalez is an example and so is lomochenko.
barely..lost...rounds..to..who?
its not like he has fought the type of competition Roman Gonzalez, Kovalev, Canelo and others have
its not hard to be dominant with his kind of talent vs the level of opposition he faces
idk why people act oblivious to this fact....level of opposition matters and his isnt as formidable as the other p4p entrants
I would probably say so.
No....there have been fights this year with P4P entrants, unification bouts with 2 elite guys, etc
Ward, Kovalev, Chocolatito, Bud Crawford, Loma and others are taking on stiffer competition.
1 good win over a prime opponent wont be enough, considering how average the rest of his comp has been
it will solidfy his place as # 1 at 160 doe.
Since when do you get elevated for beating a dude 85% of the world picks you to beat?
Well that rather depends how good they are doesn't it? If they were a top P4P fighter and 85% picked you to beat 'em it'd rather suggest you probably belong at #1 already...
...But Jacobs ain't a top P4Per and a win ain't really gonna do loads for Golovkins status except further cement him as the top MW in the world.
So GGG inherited all the pac Tardss? wtf, f no he won't be p4p #1. Jacob doesn't even crack the top 20 he is a lower B lvl fighter and still be GGG best name in his resume if he wins. and he only got himself to blame for having a ***** tier promoter. most of the dudes at 154 need to move up and are huge for the weight, 160 has good potential to explode but everyone wants to pretend like they're smaller men. this era full of estrogen. smh. 165 is trash, so GGG moving up won't do much and it would be the same story that is now. Zurdo is the only interesting name, that is if he continues to win and grow his name cause right now he isn't that great himself.
he's a fraud and will stay a fraud..not one proper win on his resume..he's fighting a b level fighter again...next fight probably a welterweight again..that dude shouldn't be on any fkn list...maybe the cherry picking list next to danny garcia