I know this going to hurt one side of nsb.. but after watching last nights performance in my opinion it's safe to say he is shot and you won't ever see another great performance unless he faces a less than b level fighter. Before you go off on some crazy nonsense re watch the first 6 rounds and watch those feet , stuck in the mud .. very little to no bounce , reflexes slow as a goat
And the most important detail .... he just went 12 rounds with a guy like Jesse Vargas .. who 5 or even 2 years ago manny would have him waking up with his clothes out of style
Future? no mayweather fight .. no real opponent .. just retire with a win at this point
His not shot ,Vargas was prepered for him, plus he can move not like Margo ,but Pacman changed to ,his boxing more now, if you wanted bullrushing Pac ,you will say his shot but its just your ignorance.
I know this going to hurt one side of nsb.. but after watching last nights performance in my opinion it's safe to say he is shot and you won't ever see another great performance unless he faces a less than b level fighter. Before you go off on some crazy nonsense re watch the first 6 rounds and watch those feet , stuck in the mud .. very little to no bounce , reflexes slow as a goat
And the most important detail .... he just went 12 rounds with a guy like Jesse Vargas .. who 5 or even 2 years ago manny would have him waking up with his clothes out of style
Future? no mayweather fight .. no real opponent .. just retire with a win at this point
A Mayweather rematch is still likely.
Other than that, I've rarely seen Pacquiao take soft touches, heck his supposed soft touches are world champions so I doubt that will happen either.
I don't think Pacquiao is shot but he is almost at that stage, like a 76/77 Ali. Pacquiao loses to Brook. Most likely next step is a big push for that Mayweather rematch, if not then Pacquiao may even fight Crawford.
Depends on what your definition of 'shot' is. But for me, no. Clearly not the fighter he once was, but two dominant wins over top 10 welterweights doesn't meet the definition of shot as it's been understood historically. Might he be dismantled by a Crawford or a Brook if he fought them now? Perhaps, but until that happens you have to say he's still right up there.
I think some of you need to look up shot, or at least have a better understanding of the word if you are going to use it.
Over the hill? Yes. Shot? No.
No fighter knocks down and beats a world champion calibre fighter when they are shot. Had he lost, yes than he is shot.
Im a huge Manny fan and I saw a shot Manny too. He had problem countering the jab and was wayyy too hesitant to throw. He had him by the 10th round. Dont get me wrong, hes still good but if he faces a big puncher, I think he willget KOd again. The sad part is that it is what is going to happen at some point, cause he will fight again, thats for sure. I wish he would just hang them up. Freddie should tell him that its time now
If you don't see the improvement in Vargas over the last couple of years you're blind. He's only 27 years old and he's looking better every fight. And he's fighting top level competition. Vargas is a problem for any of the other welterweights out there
Lmao!!! I'll keep an eye out for the rising star .....