My feelings on Lomachenko...

I think this is a dangerous fight for Loma, very dangerous. I think Walters is dangerous opponent for anyone Will be very interesting match up to see, cant wait! I hope Loma showcases some beautiful movement and mixes lots of punches to the head and to the body. Gotta be careful of Walters power though! And man has a good reach advantage as well.

Doesn't matter. If he beats Walters that Salido loss will be chalked up as inexperience. Walters is better than Salido and so was GRJ. So that loss becomes less and less relevant if Lomachenko continues making history. Also Salido couldn't even beat Rocky Martinez....

He is undoubtly skilled. Very fast. However, I can't forget his loss to Salido as easily his fans can. He showed to have a hard time handling pressure. I respect him for fighting Walters now. But I have a feeling he's not ready to fight at that level yet. If he beat Walters, I will regard him as one of the best boxers in the world. But what if he loses? What will people think about him then? Will it hurt his career a lot? Walters has been impotent since beating donaire so I've no idea what this fight actually means. It should be a good stylistic match up though. As for salido, that is a difficult fight to forget because of how inadequate lomachenko looked in coping with a physical pro. What's worse is that salido has never been anything more than a c level slugger. It's clear since that fight that they've taken Loma away from physical fighters.

I think this is a dangerous fight for Loma, very dangerous.

The WSB fights aren't really comparable in that he was facing guys just as green as he was. High level guys in a technical sense but not in the pro sense. He needed to do rounds with some veterans before he was really ready for someone like Salido. That being said, if Salido hadn't skipped the weight cut Lomachenko might have won anyway. They are comparable in that they were better than the usual chuff he'd be facing as a very early pro. In fact, those 'pro' fight opponents would have been much better than the stiffs he'd have faced as your typical debuting prospect fights. Guys like 0-4-6 or 3-10-1 are standard fare in such early fights, so those WSB fights with pro rules against the best amateurs would have prepared him better than any amount of chumps at that level would have. Probably even better than many top 20 guys. However, no amount of prep would have worked for Salido so early on. He had to have been worked up properly for a fight like that and gone the usual route by facing some top ten guys and gone the distance against one or two durable fighters etc to give him that type of experience.

So you had it wide for Salido? what was your score for this fight? Salido did a lot of roughhouse tactics and clearly Loma wasn't comfortable or fully prepared but I don't see how he won 7 decisive rounds, neither did Loma of course i'm just saying it weren't a clear win to me. Being rough on the inside don't impress me unless there are clean punches being landed as well. That said, if you count clean shots to the testicles it was a shoutout for Salido no doubt. Anyway, Salido and Walters aren't that similar in style which was my main point so I disagree with the OP talking about the Salido fight like that determines the Walters fight. No, it wasn't wide, but that doesn't mean it automatically could have gone the other way either. Salido won it, but yes, the reffing was ****...that's Cole for you though. The guy is just **** all 'round. Walters and Salido, as you say, arenb't similar in style. In fact, they are chalk and cheese. It's not going to be a remotely similar fight and nothing can be gained by comparing the two fights. Walters is strong, and big, but he's faster, sharper, and in his prime still. Salido was past his best and his preparation obviously wasn't that great considering his weight issues. Salido is your classic Mexican brawler, fights inside well with underrated movement. Walters fights short, and sharp inside but puts pressure on from range with a good, strong jab. He does tend to get a little wild sometimes with his combos.... Very interesting fight.

He did well late, but I think that was as much Salido's bad preparation and weight mismanagement than Loma, as Salido normally is a strong finisher. However, in terms of scoring, no, it couldn't have gone either way. Loma did well to hurt Salido, but it wasn't remotely close enough to have gone either way. Anyway, good win for Salido, and a good loss for Loma because it taught him the pro game very quickly. Salido is a veteran and fought like a pro. He introduced Loma to a long time veteran pro who wasn't going to bow out and fall over like his other opponents had. People talk about it being Loma's 2nd or 3rd fight, but he'd had 5 or 6 'pro' fights. They just werent recorded on his official record for some reason. They were still full pro fights though and gave him much needed experience against high level fighters. Just not enough to beat someone like Salido. So you had it wide for Salido? what was your score for this fight? Salido did a lot of roughhouse tactics and clearly Loma wasn't comfortable or fully prepared but I don't see how he won 7 decisive rounds, neither did Loma of course i'm just saying it weren't a clear win to me. Being rough on the inside don't impress me unless there are clean punches being landed as well. That said, if you count clean shots to the testicles it was a shoutout for Salido no doubt. Anyway, Salido and Walters aren't that similar in style which was my main point so I disagree with the OP talking about the Salido fight like that determines the Walters fight.

He did well late, but I think that was as much Salido's bad preparation and weight mismanagement than Loma, as Salido normally is a strong finisher. However, in terms of scoring, no, it couldn't have gone either way. Loma did well to hurt Salido, but it wasn't remotely close enough to have gone either way. Anyway, good win for Salido, and a good loss for Loma because it taught him the pro game very quickly. Salido is a veteran and fought like a pro. He introduced Loma to a long time veteran pro who wasn't going to bow out and fall over like his other opponents had. People talk about it being Loma's 2nd or 3rd fight, but he'd had 5 or 6 'pro' fights. They just werent recorded on his official record for some reason. They were still full pro fights though and gave him much needed experience against high level fighters. Just not enough to beat someone like Salido. The WSB fights aren't really comparable in that he was facing guys just as green as he was. High level guys in a technical sense but not in the pro sense. He needed to do rounds with some veterans before he was really ready for someone like Salido. That being said, if Salido hadn't skipped the weight cut Lomachenko might have won anyway.

Walters is big and strong but he don't have that flat out rough in your face style like Salido. It was a close fight anyway, it's not like he got dominated he could've easily got the decision. He did well late, but I think that was as much Salido's bad preparation and weight mismanagement than Loma, as Salido normally is a strong finisher. However, in terms of scoring, no, it couldn't have gone either way. Loma did well to hurt Salido, but it wasn't remotely close enough to have gone either way. Anyway, good win for Salido, and a good loss for Loma because it taught him the pro game very quickly. Salido is a veteran and fought like a pro. He introduced Loma to a long time veteran pro who wasn't going to bow out and fall over like his other opponents had. People talk about it being Loma's 2nd or 3rd fight, but he'd had 5 or 6 'pro' fights. They just werent recorded on his official record for some reason. They were still full pro fights though and gave him much needed experience against high level fighters. Just not enough to beat someone like Salido.

I find it amusing how the Salido fight gets brought up all the time... Man was overweight and Loma didn't have to take the fight, but he did anyway. Crooked Texas judges in a disgraceful performance does nothing to adress the constant fouling. For which he should have been DQ or enough points taken off for Salido to fight clean. If this wasn't Loma or if it wasn't his second fight everyone woulda cried foul and never brought up this fight again. But because everyone just hated the fact that Loma fought for a title in his second fight people just accepted that fight as a legit contest....haters rejoiced. Now on top of all that after having his nut sack treated like a speed bag all night Loma almost knocked his ass out of there in the end. But Loma lost to Salido doe...whatever makes you sleep at night. === Now Walters will be a tough tough test, closer fight than people give credit. Walters has a chance against anyone with that power and we just don't know how Loma will cope with being hit by someone like that. Now if Loma beats Walters, he's unbeatable. Unless he goes crazy jumping divisions at which point someone too big for him will just be too much to cope with.

Walters is pretty damn stout No mistake about it he's a major, major test for Loma But IMO Loma is on another level skill wise Walters better not let Lomachenko get comfortable or into a rhythm or else I think it's curtains for Walters en route to a UD loss

WSB is basically an amateur boxing without headgear. Softer gloves, small amount of rounds and the main thing – all other guys are amateurs, they fight like amateurs. Unleash someone like Salido on them and he is gonna have a ****ing feast. I honestly think that Loma wasted his time there, not sure it helped him at all to get used to the pros. Btw, people who say something like "he lost to Salido, it's his ceiling" are funny as hell, Bhop ceiling is Mitchel then and Pac's is Terrasomething. Dude is on the run to make something completely new and hopefully (it's a long shot, but who knows) to help change boxing, bring back proper mentality to it – when best fights the best, going for glory, not for rodsalkas of the world.

Both of you, let's not act like Loma didn't have WSB pro experience and also let's not act like Salido as tough and as skilled as he, is not a piece of **** cheater that used every illegal tactic in this fight from the weight, to the low blows and I am sure he did steroids again. I'm not even saying anything bad about Loma. And, I think Salido is a bit of a scumbag. I just like to mock irrational hardcore fans. His #1 fanboy is all out of sorts because I pointed out something he does regularly, which is try to play up or play down Loma's am record to suit his arguments. These guys need to pick one or the other.

Again, you're an insecure Loma fan that can't handle any objectivity. You can lie all you want but I have no agenda and you're not going to discourage me from being honest. Again, my statement was; I don't get how people will boast of 4 million amateur fights, then say "his 2nd fight doe" when talking about Salido. I'll keep saying at and watching you squirm because I have no problem with Loma but mindslave fanboys like you just suck. And I addressed that by saying that amateur boxing and pro boxing are different. Then you went on to say something about greatness even though I have never heard anyone say Loma is an ATG pro. I've heard people say he's an ATG amateur, which he is, whether you like it or not. But I have never seen anyone say he's an ATG pro because of his amateur career. You kept changing the idea and I kept proving you wrong. I'm relaxed as can be. I'm having fun proving you wrong. I also told you amateur boxing and pro boxing are not the same. Is it illegal if someone wants to give Loma some credit for his accomplishments as an amateur? And again you do realize amateur boxing and pro boxing have a lot of differences, right?

I proved your ass wrong and you feel bad about it. What can you do? And like I said before who gives a crap? Let people have their freaking opinions. Some people think Loma will easily win, others think Walters will easily win and some think it can go either way. Why get upset about it? You complaining will not change "fan attitudes," there's always going to be people like that. Stop crying about it. That's what I've been trying to explain to you. This is not the first thread or first fight I see you commenting about things like this and has that changed any fan attitudes? Hopefully this wonderful plan of yours has worked. :) Again, you're an insecure Loma fan that can't handle any objectivity. You can lie all you want but I have no agenda and you're not going to discourage me from being honest. Again, my statement was; I don't get how people will boast of 4 million amateur fights, then say "his 2nd fight doe" when talking about Salido. I'll keep saying at and watching you squirm because I have no problem with Loma but mindslave fanboys like you just suck.

The question is, is how much has Lomancheko really improved since the Salido fight? Since hes only had a few more fights i dont think hes improved dramatically 400 amateur fights or not, youre just not that good if youve lost to an old Salido.

I stated an opinion about Loma FANS, and you, king of the insecure Loma fans, can't get over it. There's nothing to prove wrong as it was an opinion about fan attitudes. If you need to make stuff up to feel better about yourself, you have at it tiger! I proved your ass wrong and you feel bad about it. What can you do? And like I said before who gives a crap? Let people have their freaking opinions. Some people think Loma will easily win, others think Walters will easily win and some think it can go either way. Why get upset about it? You complaining will not change "fan attitudes," there's always going to be people like that. Stop crying about it. That's what I've been trying to explain to you. This is not the first thread or first fight I see you commenting about things like this and has that changed any fan attitudes? Hopefully this wonderful plan of yours has worked. :)

Lol, I make perfect sense you just can't stand that I proved you wrong. You've made similar comments regarding this fight and Lomachenko in the past, so I know what you're all about. I stated an opinion about Loma FANS, and you, king of the insecure Loma fans, can't get over it. There's nothing to prove wrong as it was an opinion about fan attitudes. If you need to make stuff up to feel better about yourself, you have at it tiger!

Name ONE fighter in the last 10 years who fought a top fighter like Salido in his second pro fight! Of course a fighter improves after fighting someone like that in their second pro fight! Such as sitting down on their punches, making movement count more. This fight against Walters is an even fight. A little like Mayweather vs Corrales. Bigger stronger vs slicker more movement and that's why I'm picking Lom. But boxing is the theater of the unexpected and crazy things can happen like one fighter changing his style and doing the unexpected and outpunching the puncher or out boxing the boxer.

You're either playing dumb or genuinely can't figure out what my original statement meant. Either way, I've run out of ways to explain it to you. About me supposedly being "offended" that people wouldn't pick Walters, again, you make zero sense. I'm probably closer to being a Loma fan than a Walters fan. I just don't have a problem being objective. You're the one getting offended and I've seen you do this before over anyone who doesn't fawn over Loma. Lighten up a little. Lol, I make perfect sense you just can't stand that I proved you wrong. You've made similar comments regarding this fight and Lomachenko in the past, so I know what you're all about.