what 2 boxers could put on as civilized and as articulate an interview as this?
most boxers just mumble 3 word sentences and have limited vocabulary.
MMA fighters are way more intelligent than boxers.
MMA fighters or the American ones usually come from decent backgrounds. For a Boxing gym, usually around $20-40, the really expensive ones are at $50, anything more is a rip off anyways. Across the block its at least $90 a month to learn one martial art. That says it all for what kind of people are going to be attending those.
Even if they came from the hood, they have a wrestling background which they learned at University which they got there on the basis of scholarship (includes grades) so they were in a good atmosphere.
Go ask 10 random people who Conor McGregor is. You may get 2-3 people who know. Ask 10 people who Mayweather or Pacquiao is and you're going to get 10 out of 10 who know.
I know of sherdog. Why aren't the MMA guys on this forum who keep claiming boxing is losing out to the UFC posting there?
MMA has a stagnant fan base. It's going to get no bigger than where it's at now. The company was just bought and they're laying off a ton of people.
The UFC's largest attendance record was for 55,000+ at UFC 129 in 2011. Canelo just had 52,000+ attend an the Liam Smith fight and likely 99.9% of the US doesn't know who Liam Smith is.
You're going to have to show me some facts that prove MMA is more popular than boxing.
Mayweather and Pacquiao's fight is the richest fight in history. The MGM grand only hold 17,000+. The UFC on it's best day can't touch boxing. I bet the entire UFC 2015 show schedule didn't add up to what was made in the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight.
You UFC fans just waaaaannnnttt your sport to be number one when realistically it's just a middling sport.
I provide facts. You UFC fanboys are coming with measly opinions.
I'm a boxing guy first and foremost you dumb cunt.
what 2 boxers could put on as civilized and as articulate an interview as this?
most boxers just mumble 3 word sentences and have limited vocabulary.
MMA fighters are way more intelligent than boxers.
Daniel Cormier graduated from Oklahoma State University (on a wrestling scholarship), and Anthony Johnson graduated from Lassen College (on a wrestling scholarship); the fact that you think that two college graduates, sitting and having an intelligent conversation is some revelation is ridiculous.
amateur boxing doesn't have the pipeline that amateur wrestling has, and that's beyond question; the scale is different, but a top amateur wrestler has a lot of the same opportunities as a top amateur baseball would get. that can't be said for boxing.
Even then, Chris Algieri, Andre Ward, Daniel Jacobs, Abner Mares, Errol Spence Jr, and a host of other boxers can comfortably hold cogent conversations with anyone.
what 2 boxers could put on as civilized and as articulate an interview as this?
most boxers just mumble 3 word sentences and have limited vocabulary.
MMA fighters are way more intelligent than boxers.
if they are so smart, why did they enter a sport where the biggest stars make what boxing's fringe contenders make? :lame:
Conor's best purse for one fight was about a million bucks and the MMA people brag on that. He doesn't make tens of millions a year from fighting. Mayweather made more in one fight than Conor could make in ten careers. Maybe the average MMA fighter is more intelligent than the average boxer. So what? Why is it so important to you to prove this? These are combat sports and I watch them to admire their fighting skills, not their intelligence.
Dana already said that the highest he's ever paid a fighter is $5Mil. This was likely Brock Lesnar because he wanted to bring in some of those wrestling fans.
The UFC fanboys are making every attempt they can to push the sport as being more lucrative than boxing but they fall flat on their face each time.
Maybe 0.1% of pro boxers are making that big money. The majority fight basically for free or are indebted to their promoters.
MMA has guys like Conor who are making tens of millions but they also have big roster of guys who are making middle class livings off of it. Boxing has nothing like that. You are either bankrupt or a Wladimir/Floyd/Manny. There is pretty much nothing in between.
Your argument is flawed anyway. I mean the average NBA player probably makes more than the average electrical engineer. Do you think the average NBA player is even intelligent enough to manage a Burger King?Conor's best purse for one fight was about a million bucks and the MMA people brag on that. He doesn't make tens of millions a year from fighting. Mayweather made more in one fight than Conor could make in ten careers. Maybe the average MMA fighter is more intelligent than the average boxer. So what? Why is it so important to you to prove this? These are combat sports and I watch them to admire their fighting skills, not their intelligence.
They are so intelligent they all have mutilated ears badly in need of surgery and they make less than a tenth as much money per fight as good boxers do.
The majority of these guys have second and third jobs. The UFC signed the reebok deal and it took away their sponsors so almost the majority of the company was complaining.
This is a joke right? I'm guessing you've never heard of Sherdog? Quite possibly one of the most frequented forums on the internet...
MMA is a lot bigger than boxing in 2016 as a whole. As someone who loves boxing and loves MMA it's pretty ****ing easy to see that MMA has become more mainstream, particularly the UFC brand itself.
Go ask 10 random people who Conor McGregor is. You may get 2-3 people who know. Ask 10 people who Mayweather or Pacquiao is and you're going to get 10 out of 10 who know.
I know of sherdog. Why aren't the MMA guys on this forum who keep claiming boxing is losing out to the UFC posting there?
MMA has a stagnant fan base. It's going to get no bigger than where it's at now. The company was just bought and they're laying off a ton of people.
The UFC's largest attendance record was for 55,000+ at UFC 129 in 2011. Canelo just had 52,000+ attend an the Liam Smith fight and likely 99.9% of the US doesn't know who Liam Smith is.
You're going to have to show me some facts that prove MMA is more popular than boxing.
Mayweather and Pacquiao's fight is the richest fight in history. The MGM grand only hold 17,000+. The UFC on it's best day can't touch boxing. I bet the entire UFC 2015 show schedule didn't add up to what was made in the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight.
You UFC fans just waaaaannnnttt your sport to be number one when realistically it's just a middling sport.
I provide facts. You UFC fanboys are coming with measly opinions.
They are so intelligent they all have mutilated ears badly in need of surgery and they make less than a tenth as much money per fight as good boxers do.
How much money you make doing a job has nothing to do with your overall intelligence. The best paying jobs almost never require the most intellect.
They are so intelligent they all have mutilated ears badly in need of surgery and they make less than a tenth as much money per fight as good boxers do.
Maybe 0.1% of pro boxers are making that big money. The majority fight basically for free or are indebted to their promoters.
MMA has guys like Conor who are making tens of millions but they also have big roster of guys who are making middle class livings off of it. Boxing has nothing like that. You are either bankrupt or a Wladimir/Floyd/Manny. There is pretty much nothing in between.
Your argument is flawed anyway. I mean the average NBA player probably makes more than the average electrical engineer. Do you think the average NBA player is even intelligent enough to manage a Burger King?
I don't know how anyone can attempt to argue that UFC fighters make more than boxers, it's not up for debate.
The average Haymon probably guy makes double what your average UFC card headliner does per fight. Whether that is profitable or not is besides the point.
How many of the UFC guys even get PPV backend? As far as I know most of them don't. There's a reason why you frequently hear about ex fighters complaining about the wage structure of the UFC.
Also let's not forget UFC is not MMA, there's Bellator and strike force where guys are paid even less than the UFC.
The most rampant bigots here are not even white...they are usually 2nd generation immigrants with a chip on their shoulders/insecurities about Blacks and a LOT to learn about America.
My guess is the OP and Headshots are mexican.
Hectari and Lubai(whatever his name is) are bitter Pinoys.
The haters from Great Britain are P*kistanis.
They are just non-White...White supremacists.
LOL you lost all credibility when you said im a Bitter pinoy, you suck man you can't even assume properly your theories are all wrong. smh
How do you explain the income gap?
The so called more intelligent MMA guys get paid far less...far less than their so called less educated boxing counterparts.
They can't be too smart, if they are taking kicks and punches to the head for comparatively peanuts.
Maybe 0.1% of pro boxers are making that big money. The majority fight basically for free or are indebted to their promoters.
MMA has guys like Conor who are making tens of millions but they also have big roster of guys who are making middle class livings off of it. Boxing has nothing like that. You are either bankrupt or a Wladimir/Floyd/Manny. There is pretty much nothing in between.
Your argument is flawed anyway. I mean the average NBA player probably makes more than the average electrical engineer. Do you think the average NBA player is even intelligent enough to manage a Burger King?
Because MMA has no pulse. They have to come to a boxing forum to post. Noboby is talking about MMA fights. Out here in the real world people may know 1 or 2 MMA fighters.
This is a joke right? I'm guessing you've never heard of Sherdog? Quite possibly one of the most frequented forums on the internet...
MMA is a lot bigger than boxing in 2016 as a whole. As someone who loves boxing and loves MMA it's pretty ****ing easy to see that MMA has become more mainstream, particularly the UFC brand itself.
why do so called boxing fans come on boxing fans and trash boxing all the time?
This guy came on here trying to prove that MMA fighters are smarter than boxers. All he did was prove that MMA fans are smarter than some boxing fans.
So you post a rare example from mma and a rare example from boxing and use that as a general example. Sorry, the exception doesn't make the rule.
My examples were realistic generalizations.
http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/160111_max.jpg
Dude, thats EXACTLY what you did when you made this thread. You used an isolated example. Man, you guys have the IQ level of a rock on here.
MMA gets a lot of its talent pool from martial arts (obviously) and college wrestling.
Boxing's basically entire talent pool is illiterate ghetto trash or survivors of communist economies.
Of course there's a slight intellectual gap.
One conversation between two MMA fighters is "proof"? OP doesn't appear to know what "proof" means.
Of course. Almost all of the disciplines in MMA are high school and college funded and practiced. Kids go to school to practice wrestling, judo etc. They are also Olympic sports.
Boxing is traditionally a poor man's sport that fighters choose when they have no other choice
There's also this.