So who's win between these 2 and how does said fighter win??
An interesting fight between 2 big punchers, with Jacobs being taller and a natural middleweight while canelo flirts in between 154 and 160.
I like danny via stoppage..
Canelo has never faced a legit top level puncher, especially one with the handspeed of jacobs. Jacobs will beat canelo to the punch more times than not. Canelo feels that power he is going to shell up and look to survive. Jacobs flurries on him against the ropes and ref or corner jump in
I was thinking a near even fight. Maybe 60/40 Jacobs. Due to size and power with somewhat compatible skill. But somehow it became an unrealistic landslide for canelo. I'm guessing star power now translates to real time in ring outcomes.
This lame still claiming the KD on Jacobs was a flash knockdown but Jacobs had his legs bent under him, sat there pointing at Mora for no reason (to buy time) and had trouble getting up.
https://youtu.be/O1jvOMeKKJM?t=4m50s
Please stop spewing out bs and learn something before you speak. Even Joe Tessitore said that Jacobs was wobbly.
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A flash knowdown doe!
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Keep getting exposed, p*ssy. :haha:
Jacobs has been dropped twice in 33 fights; one was a legit knockdown 6 years ago and the other was a flash knockdown where he went on to knock the other guy down a total of 7 times and stop him twice and these guys just won't let it go.
GGG hasn't been down yet, but he he's fought 1 real puncher at 160 in Pepe La Pew in a fight that was won by GGG's jab.
Thank God Mayweather was never officially knocked down hurt or these guys would talk about it for the next 200 years. Forget if Floyd won the fight, they'd ping soley on the knockdown.
Nope. Stevens can bang.
Also, apparently you don't need to be a puncher to knock guys down. See Mora vs Jacobs. So yeah, bad excuse.
Jacobs is very dangerous and I'm not sure at all but I think Canelo wins by KO. I think Jacobs hits harder but they both hit very hard with both hands. Canelo has a very good chin. I have seen all of Canelo's fights and only Cotto's brother ever really hurt him. That was about 7 years ago when Canelo was a teenage welterweight. Jacobs was dropped by Mora and KOed by Pirog. Canelo's stronger chin might help him be the one who gets the KO win if these two highly skilled, fast handed punchers went to war. Jacobs is a great finisher and he could easily win by KO. I see it as a very close fight that could go either way with the edge going to Canelo.
Not sure I agree with those stats. I watched the fight live and had Cotto landing more punches.
Me too and I didn't, because it didn't happen. Go rewatch and count. You might have been caught up in the moment.
Listen man, when Canelo says he's not ready to move up to be a full fledged MW, I have the tendency to belive him over some guy named b0x
You also believe him when he's been fighting decent opponents like Lara and Cotto at 155 (Lara, Cotto, Khan, Kirkland, and Angulo), 5 fights total which were scientifically 100% demonstrably within the middleweight weight class and not the junior middleweight because it drains him too much? Didn't think people were that gullible. Now he fought a much lesser opponent at 154 not one of the top guys, where he had to take his underwear off, he's 'injured' his hand and he has the perfect excuse to come back and not continue at 154, instead calling for 'tune-ups' at 'catchweights' or the official 160. My guess is Brook at 157 or something after brook fights Smith and/or Khan. Ah well, on with the
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if canelo is scared to death of being ko'd by ggg i'm guessing he would be scared of jacobs as well. not as scared mind you but still scared enough to soil himself
Me too............
He has shown "good" power but nothing suggests he's a "big puncher." And most of his big punches have been vs smaller guys. There's no telling what this so called "big power" is gonna be like at 160 vs guys his size or bigger.
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Sure they could. It's all how you choose to score rounds.
Do you score for the busier fighter landing more punches or do you score for the fighter landing the one single hard shot for the round?
Let me ask you, if Fighter A landed 25 "1" 2"s as oppose to Fighter B who landed one thunderous punch for the round, who do you give the round too? It's very subjective.
It doesn't matter because Canelo landed both the harder shots and more shots. 155-129. So cut it any way homie, Cotto lost. Scientific fact.
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Canelo has said countless times for the past few years that his body isn't ready for 160. Stop.
Fight night weight is more scientifically accurate than a biased opinion a promoter could have encouraged one to give. Also fighting at 155 several times and having to take your underwear off to make 154 against a euro leveller is more scientifically accurate. 160 division is for anything over 154. Living in Saunas and eating only fish and lettuce to make 152 (-2 pounds), even when someone big like Porter could drop to 144 after being a middleweight in the amateurs and still beat Broner easily also says otherwise. So if he was fighting at 155, he was a middleweight. Scientific absolute fact.
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Ahh so telling the truth is an agenda here eh? lmfao..
Only on NSB, a guy has 1 loss by KO from years ago and now he is chinny and not durable :rofl:
Rigo gets dropped every few fights too. Still one of the best, if not THE best P4P. Kovalev is one of the top P4P supposedly was KOd in the AMs and dropped by non-puncher Blake Capperello. It happens. Are you questioning either of their durability or is that only when you co-sign a fighter?
Oh, you're not playing stupid...you're actually stupid.
Jacobs hasn't fought a puncher in his pro career, despite that he's been down 3 times, 2 of those being heavy knockdowns. So if he's been hurt and dropped by non-punchers, apply a bit of common sense and you'll realise what that means.
Rigo doesn't take a punch too well either, the difference is, his defence is arguably the best in the world, so he doesn't get hit flush often. And when he does go down, he gets back up. Plus he's never been stopped. Kovalev's KD against the Aussie wasn't a legit KD, I doubt you've even seen the fight otherwise you'd know that. But my strong suspicion is, Kovalev may not be too durable either, the only real puncher he's fought as a pro was Boone, who dropped him and gave him a tough fight in their first encounter.
Guys like Porter, Murray, Korobov, Estrada etc floored Jacobs in the amateurs, these guys are non-punchers, wearing bigger gloves than you do in the pros, with headgear. Most of these fights can be found on youtube, help yourself.
Exactly the same thing with Golovkin Brook. Except that Golovkin didn't even try to do it subtly.
After realizing he couldn't box with Brook, I think Golovkin took more of a caveman approach, knowing that Brook would wilt under the pressure. Which is exactly what happened.
^This is correct. He took away the guy's speed and mobility by going to the body early. Before the fight, I said Khan would win the first few rounds while Canelo set his trap (which he always does). It was a calculated plan that he was able to execute fairly early in the fight. To say he was losing, as if he saved himself with a random or lucky punch, is wildly inaccurate.
Yes Khan was already gone before the knockout. Speed and reflexes all over the place. Exactly the same plan with Golovkin Brook. Except that Golovkin didn't even try to do it subtly.
Canelo was not losing to khan he was setting up traps and getting his timing down.
^This is correct. He took away the guy's speed and mobility by going to the body early. Before the fight, I said Khan would win the first few rounds while Canelo set his trap (which he always does). It was a calculated plan that he was able to execute fairly early in the fight. To say he was losing, as if he saved himself with a random or lucky punch, is wildly inaccurate. Khan was getting weary of the body shots and was even expecting one when Canelo took his head off. That's gameplanning.
My mistake, Khan was only up on one scorecard.
Before the KO, Canelo was having problems with his speed. His corner even said they didn't think Khan would be that fast.
Of course he didn't have hand speed as fast as Khan. He wasn't far off though. That's not a problem when you have timing anyway. Ask Froch.
Oh yeah read the post I edited. Canelo didn't move to 160 because GGG was the mandatory. That's 'what he knew' and so did everyone else.
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Canelo admits to not even being a full fledged MW and somehow people think he can get with Danny?
Danny is a huge MW that can not only crack, but can box. We're not talking about slow ass Angulo here or reckless James Kirkland.
People don't realize this, but Canelo was losing to Amir Khan. Jacobs has pretty damn fast combo's similar to Khan when he has his opponent hurt.
I've said it before and I'll say it again; taking punches from Amir Khan at 155 and Leon Smith at 154 is nothing like taking punches from Danny at 160.
I can't think of one fighter Canelo has fought as tall as Jacobs. Not one.
Canelo does horrible against guys that move. Canelo looked like schit against Mayweather, Lara, Khan and even Cotto. Cotto's not a real mover, but one can argue that Cotto outpointed Canelo.
Jacobs will provide movement, but the difference is when Jacobs lands, we're not talking about Amir Khan, Lara, Cotto or Leon Smith hitting him. We're talking about a full fledged Middleweight.
If Canelo was confident he could take punches from MW's he would've moved up a loooooong time ago. Obviously Canelo knows something you guys don't
Canelo was not losing to khan he was setting up traps and getting his timing down. One could not argue he lost to Cotto unless one is a troll. One could however, argue the scorecards were too wide in his favour. Canelo knows if he moves to 160 he has to fight GGG. It was madatory. That's what he knew. Who is 'Leon Smith' lol.
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