If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
WBC and WBA are the only belts worth acknowledging to be honest, they have the longer history in the sport.
The others I just can't take serious AT ALL
If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
It definitely should be that way but too many sanctioned belts don't want to give up their power and influence. Too many people are leaching off the boxing world, in world that is tanking and going down the tubes.
To really save the sport there needs to be ONE title for each major division. If it was like that we wouldn't have to put up with bullsh*t for years. Danny Garcia wouldn't (probably) be a thing at 147 stealing time and money from other capable and better fighters waiting in line.
Anymore it's practically impossible to keep up with all these belts and artificial borders between fighters. It's not a competition sport anymore, it's become a moneymaking entertainment sport. Whether the entertainment is substantive fights or sideshow theatrics, it's whatever the fighters want to do. What the fighters want to do now is make as much money as possible while balancing the outcry factor of spineless championship runs.
Floyd has done a lot to influence this new age of boxing. His message is that boxing will leave you broke or dead if you won't be smart enough to focus on solely what want out of the sport. Floyd believes that every fighter should just want money, paper accolades when they can get them and a clean bill of health for when they want to get out. The problem is that was a smart business tactic when Floyd came into the sport. Now a days the sport has become a product of Floyd Mayweather and others of his ilk. Just like Floyd played the system and belts to geniusly capitalize on every front of building his name and stock, the boxing politics have now become a part also. It's almost like they know there is a point where the whole thing will hit the fan and they just recklessly continue to artificially raise the sports stock with made up belts. The politics of boxing seem to understand that the short attention span and large casual audience will always take a respectful notice of a fighter that has champion next to his name.
F*ck all this rambling though. This sport is totally f*cked. 75% of the headliners and guys that have made it are sucking the blood out of boxing, leaving it in worst shape than they found it. To save the sport in my eyes and regain a true mainstream viewership they have to start from scratch. I'm talking about 75% of sport very much including pretend fighters need to just disappear. The market is very saturated with crap. We need to Make Boxing Great Again!
Champion
WBA WBC IBF WBO
Rankings
Champion fights one of the sanction champs and must continue rotation till all four are foughtand keep going.
If sanction loses he gets thrown back into rankings say 4 (once) since he's a former champ and fights 3 While 1 and 2 fight for belt and chance at champion.
If champion loses then he gets thrown back into ranking maybe 2 since he was just champion and fights for chance at another opportunity
InI between the rotating the sanction champ continues to fight top ten and if he loses well the ranking keeps moving.
If a champ from one sanction thinks he is better than the next rotation champ then he can challenge him for that spot
Every sanction already ranks guys different so it'll be u to that fighter to choose which sanction on how he ranks. Will keep highly touted fighters ranked higher in each sanction to have a good fighter ready for a big fight cause as usual popularity will play big part of money which means bigger sanctions and respect for belt
Quick thought still raw but think it'll produce some intriguing fights
If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
In my opinion boxing needs less of things.
Less belts, so we can have no dispute over who the main man is at the division.
Less weight divisions. Some division you could literally eat a sandwich in and be in another division.
Less rounds. With less rounds there are less feel out rounds and we avoid long tedious fights. Make it 8 rounds maximum.
What are the real issues? Imo it would fix alot of the problems we have now.
But it's not possible to do (make it be one organization w/one title per division).
If you trace it back to a big root cause for here in the U.S. a reason that no one thinks about is the fact that opening up a business in the U.S. has become very expensive and comes with a lot of regulatory nonsense, taxes, permits, licensing fes and government oversight.
Boxing was always seen as an outlet for those in the lower income communities to escape their environment (financially speaking), but for the past several decades you are seeing in this country the loss of small community businesses, "mom & pop" stores, and the expansion of corporate growth.
So with that is why you see Boxing gyms dwindling in quantity and that means less of an impact that Amateur Boxing scene means less of a potential for growth in communities across levels of income.
There are more reasons than just this, but this is a big reason that no one thinks about. If owning a gym becomes too expensive w/rent, utilities, taxes, regulations, etc. then unless I am financially prepared for months/years in advance I'm not going to be able to keep myself in business because I either won't be able to meet my monthly bills/fees or I'll have to price membership fees too high which hurt the potential for the number of overall members.
I used to see this as an issue, but to be honest it's a non-issue.
It's only to us hardcores and the purists that care about this.
There are so many more steps that need to be taken in order to restore the quality and popularity of the sport before looking at making it one belt per division (which is impossible to do).
What are the real issues? Imo it would fix alot of the problems we have now.
I used to see this as an issue, but to be honest it's a non-issue.
It's only to us hardcores and the purists that care about this.
There are so many more steps that need to be taken in order to restore the quality and popularity of the sport before looking at making it one belt per division (which is impossible to do).
UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.
this is also very true
UFC is basically like if in boxing let's say PBC would have ALL the best fighters n every weight classes and they would have their own belt.
That would be similar.
true but it ain't gonna happen, you can't just ask 3 out of the 4 big ABC organizations to stop existing and there's no one common platform which could make a unified deciion that from this day let's say we only accept the IBF belt as credible and not the others. Fans and the media are more divided than that...
also not 5 organizations but 4
whoever mentions the IBO or the regular WBA title holders as real champions should be laughed at and not taken seriously.
One belt per division and problem solved this will stop people ducking unifications.
If we're to have more than one belt I'd just keep the WBA and the WBC I don't really care for the WBO, IBF and whatever other belts there are likely around that are considered a world title.
I'd say 2, 3 tops. You'd have to fight tough comp if that was the case.
Boxing had the WBC and WBA belt until late 80s. The IBF and WBO hurt boxing. Now Golovkin has HBO claiming the IBO belt.
I remember when they stated calling WBO a major belt now they added IBO too. I'd be fine with WBC, WBA,and IBF.
One belt per division and problem solved this will stop people ducking unifications.
If we're to have more than one belt I'd just keep the WBA and the WBC I don't really care for the WBO, IBF and whatever other belts there are likely around that are considered a world title.
2 may be ideal. In MMA the UFC vs Pride rivalry seemed to keep each organization on their toes.
A monopoly (say PBC taking off and making their own belt) is scary because boxing is so corrupt and you could pretty much assume fighters from a certain nationalities being spoon-fed titles, which pretty much describes the "glory days" of US boxing and is the reason new titles popped up.
Obviously the 4-5 we have now is way too much.
I don't see the appeal for more than 1 belt & an interim champ if necessary due to injury. To me there can only be one champion. F#ck unification hype among two title holders. Becoming a champion & fighting for THE title should be what is getting hype.
There was a time when winning a title was something big & if you couldn't win a tile just fighting for it meant something for a fighter & if you couldn't fight for one becoming a top ten contender meant something for a fighter. Now we got 4+ titles so thats super watered down, who knows how many guys get title fight each year in each division so thats extremely watered down & there are as many as 40 different fighters who can claim to be top ten fighters so thats epically watered down. I wanna go back when just being a among THE top ten was a meaningful thing for a fighter.
Back in the day it meant something and there was real competition to even be top 10.I hate when guys parade around for being 2 weight champs or something because EVERYTHING in boxing seems watered down.
UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.
In a way but most people agree the UFC champ is the top fighter in the world and has most top contenders.
If you look at the champions list bscene counts there are 5 major titles per division. Some people like the UFC model of 1 belt per division but 2 or 3 max with interim champions if there's an injury would be the best for the sport.
UFC is just a league inside MMA. You can't compare is really. Because you have Bellator and other leagues.