10. Larry Holmes
9. Manny Pacquiao
8. Jake Lamotta
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6. Julio Caesar Chavez Sr.
5. Marvin Hagler
4. Evander Holyfield
3. Pernell Whitaker
2. Roberto Duran
1. To Be Determined
http://ring tv.crav eonline.com/news/431685-who-is-the-greatest-fighter-alive-no-4-revealed
Interesting series on Ring Magazine. Looks like #1 will be Sugar Ray Leonard.
What do you think?
They only did a top 10 list. This is how they describe it:
And they also left out Roy Jones and B-Hop
seems like a bunch of toddlers argued about a toy over dinner...
If any fighter could do all this in one day, its a prime roy jones
boxing fans have the shortest memory of any fans...its all about what you did today
all people know of Jones is a washed up former champion fighting on too long
I bet a high percentage of posters on this site didnt even watch the man live, in his prime, which was 20 years ago, let alone a full fight of his in his prime
He was special and prime for prime...he was just flat out better than most of the guys on Ring's listRoy Jones was great and should be at or near the top of the list among the greatest fighters alive in my opinion. There is no doubt in my mind that prime for prime Jones was a better pound for pound fighter than Leonard or Whitaker or damn near anybody else still living.
It's an OK list but of course I don't entirely agree with it. I don't think Leonard is the best fighter alive. He didn't fight very often and he didn't last very long. Leonard was finished as a top fighter when Norris beat the hell out of him. Hearns deserve to win their second fight and I always thought Hagler beat him and would have beat him worse if Leonard had done the right thing and rematched Hagler right away. Hagler was murder in rematches. Hearns was still winning world titles when Leonard was finished as a top fighter.The 34 year old light punching Camacho KOed the 40 year old Leonard in 4 rounds. I think Hopkins should be ranked above Leonard. Bernard had 20 successful middleweight title defenses in a row for the all time record and he was still winning world titles into his late 40s. I think Whitaker is also ranked too high but it's their list.
Duran was 1-4 against the rest of the Four Horsemen.
Argument for duran is he was a lightweight.
Hagler was a lifelong middleweight and hearns, Leonard were huge welterweights.
Duran was able to beat leonard and was competitive with hagler.
Like giving Billy conn credit for hanging with prime joe Louis.
This is the right list (from 1 to 10):
Leonard - best among the 4 plus Benitez
Duran - greatest lightweight ever
Pacquiao - 8 titles (4 lineals)
Jones - beat prime Hopkins and Toney and broke Archie Moore's age record
Holmes - second only to Ali at all-time heavyweight
Hagler - beat Hearns who was one of the GOATS
Mayweather - undefeated but played too much defense outside the ring in later years
Hearns - arguably beat Leonard in rematch, destroyed fat Duran, a better chin woulda made him one of the all time best p4p
Whitaker - no way he's better than Floyd at counter punching and defense
Chavez SENIOR - great record
1. Duran
2. Leonard
3. Whitaker
4. Mayweather(Mayweather and Pea are interchangeable)
5. Pacquiao
6. Jones
7. Hagler
8. Holyfield
9. Holmes
10. Hopkins
10. Larry Holmes
9. Manny Pacquiao
8. Jake Lamotta
7. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
6. Julio Caesar Chavez Sr.
5. Marvin Hagler
4. Evander Holyfield
3. Pernell Whitaker
2. Roberto Duran
1. To Be Determined
http://ring tv.crav eonline.com/news/431685-who-is-the-greatest-fighter-alive-no-4-revealed
Interesting series on Ring Magazine. Looks like #1 will be Sugar Ray Leonard.
What do you think?
The Ring Magazine greatest fighter alive is Canelo, hands down.
Jones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.
If any fighter could do all this in one day, its a prime roy jones
boxing fans have the shortest memory of any fans...its all about what you did today
all people know of Jones is a washed up former champion fighting on too long
I bet a high percentage of posters on this site didnt even watch the man live, in his prime, which was 20 years ago, let alone a full fight of his in his prime
He was special and prime for prime...he was just flat out better than most of the guys on Ring's list
This is the right list (from 1 to 10):
Leonard - best among the 4 plus Benitez
Duran - greatest lightweight ever
Pacquiao - 8 titles (4 lineals)
Jones - beat prime Hopkins and Toney and broke Archie Moore's age record
Holmes - second only to Ali at all-time heavyweight
Hagler - beat Hearns who was one of the GOATS
Mayweather - undefeated but played too much defense outside the ring in later years
Hearns - arguably beat Leonard in rematch, destroyed fat Duran, a better chin woulda made him one of the all time best p4p
Whitaker - no way he's better than Floyd at counter punching and defense
Chavez SENIOR - great record
just like I thought, posters on this site would make a better list than the so called "experts"
Jones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.
I think Jones beats LaMotta too.
But if a fight is 15 rounds, the raging bull could have enough time to possibly catch up. There's no way he gets hurt no matter what Jones throws at him. And given enough time he just might make it. Not likely but still...
I'd put Jones in top 10. Not Lamotta or Chavez.
Leonard at #1 is fine with me.
anyone with common sense would......Ring Magazine hit the ****ter soon as collins was gone
Lamotta would get embarrased by Roy Jones.....put LaMotta from 1940s in with Jones from 1990s any weight between 160-175 and its a white wash
Lamotta couldnt carry Roy Jones' jock strap
Hopkins would beat that azz too
Jones would play a pickup basketball game, clown Lamotta with one hand behind his back, do a rap concert after the fight, then go back to the dressing room, put on a tuxedo and sit down next to Max and Lampley to call the Ward/Kovalev PPV.
This is the right list (from 1 to 10):
Leonard - best among the 4 plus Benitez
Duran - greatest lightweight ever
Pacquiao - 8 titles (4 lineals)
Jones - beat prime Hopkins and Toney and broke Archie Moore's age record
Holmes - second only to Ali at all-time heavyweight
Hagler - beat Hearns who was one of the GOATS
Mayweather - undefeated but played too much defense outside the ring in later years
Hearns - arguably beat Leonard in rematch, destroyed fat Duran, a better chin woulda made him one of the all time best p4p
Whitaker - no way he's better than Floyd at counter punching and defense
Chavez SENIOR - great record
He beat Toney sometime in 1994 and didnt lose to Tarver until sometime in 2004. Its been more than 20 years but Im pretty sure Toney was considered P4P #1 when they fought so Roy takes that from him there and again its been some years but I would be willing to bet he was still P4P #1 by almost every orginization or magazine that bothers to do such a thing until Tarver Starched him sometime in 2004. As far as his competition he fought what he fought and Im not going to sit here and run down his record fight by fight. There were no Hagler or Hearns or SRLs for him to fight, what he did do is make world class fighters look like rank amateurs. Roy didnt appeal to everyone I get it. I had some buddys that hated him to my astonishment but I like big butts and they liked big tits better. To each their own.
From 1994-2004, the Ring Magazine also had Mosley at p4p no. 1 and Tito and maybe Oscar but I can't remember. He never had 20 straight years as no. 1. Even if he did, I don't put too much emphasis on p4p.
Anyway, he didn't fight a number of top guys, including Eubank, Benn and Collins and then he missed out on THE guy in his division and instead fought Hill who had just lost to that fighter. That's quite bizarre.
Btw, I never let personal likes or dislikes get in the way of how I rank a fighter and fact is, of all the great fighters alive today, I'm not sure Jones would be a top 10, however a lot of the greatest fighters have passed away by now, so maybe he could sneak in at 10, definitely if Lamotta could get in on the list but noway is he one or a definite.
The definites are: Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, Holmes, Pac, May, Holyfield and Sr. That leaves a place for one more guy.
LaMotta was 16 pounds heavier in some of the fights. That and Raging Bull do get him over rated.
Lamotta would get embarrased by Roy Jones.....put LaMotta from 1940s in with Jones from 1990s any weight between 160-175 and its a white wash
Lamotta couldnt carry Roy Jones' jock strap
Hopkins would beat that azz too
Terrible so far. The Ring died to me around 2005
agreed...the article's went to *****
the writers went from having integrity to pushing their agenda's and trashing guys who didnt fit their preference
the p4p list became a joke, just as the lists they do now like this
its posters on this site that would make for a better panel and people to make all time lists, etc.
Lamotta should not be on that list..
he is only their because of a win over Robinson, who he outweighed over 10 pounds.....he doesnt belong.....that was a nostalgic pick
Name them. The topic is the greatest "alive." If you think there are 10 better alive than Jones, name them.
Saying "You don't know who's alive but there are many that should be placed ahead of Jones" is a contradiction.
I'm not even going to get into your blatant lie that Jones beat all shot fighters outside of Hopkins, Tarver and Toney.
so basically he just made it clear, he doesnt know WTF he is talking about bwahahahahahaha :trink26: