Canelo Alverez's next fight looks to be on its way to a flop against liam smith. In part because i believe the general public want to see Canelo and GGG and not Liam Smith.
SO in honor of this fight, What are your most memorable PPV Flops that you have witnessed in history. and by Flops i mean sales and not the actual fight (So no mayweather and Pacman don't count)
No, ESPN is more reliable than Hauser, and they said 150,000 to 160,000 buys.
You don't like Golovkin, right?
I'm a Golovkin fan.
And anyone who thinks Rafael is accurate on PPV numbers doesn't know boxing. Rafael has poor PPV sources, plus he's an HBO and GGG fanboy.
The knowledgeable writers put the PPV at under 100K.
We all know: GGG-Lemieux; which was actually sold 97 PPV units -- all bought by an extended family of immigrants from city of Abay (Karaganda region, Kazakhstan)...
To be a flop, by definition, there must be expectations.
I don't think anyone was expecting GGG's first PPV fight to do more than 200k buys. You had a Kazakhstan dude who speaks English like Borat, and a French-Canadian who only fought on HBO like wot? Once, or twice prior? And who didn't even have an impressive undefeated record - think he lost to Rubio, and some other cat who is a journeyman.
If you look at the buy rates, there is still enough for decent purses: 150k x 60 = 9,000,000; 65,000 x 60 = 3,900,000. I mean, that's more than they would have made on regular HBO prolly. Or their guarantees were at least the same as they would have made on HBO..
Dude, you've overestimated the money by 100%.
If the PPV costs $60, the promoter/fighters only receive half of that ($30). The cable and satellite companies keep the other half.
What was your expectation for that fight? I expected it to sell one PPV. It sold two so it doubled my expectations. It was a spectacular success.
I would still like to know the numbers on the fight. I ordered it and i actually enjoyed myself. The opening fights were slugfest.
I was one of those that paid to see GGG-Lemeuix. It was an enjoyable card if I remember. Although yeah... lately these PPVs suck ballz. Crawford-Postol? Nobody outside of hardcore boxing fans knew Postol and Crawford still making a name. Now you got Canelo against a dude I never knew until this fight was signed. Wth.
agree 100% alot of these fights i dont pay for is not because im too cheap or i think i can get it free somewhere else... I just don't think its worth my 60$ im willing too bet money that if Canelo and GGG happened this fall like it was supposed 2. It would have sold over 700k. PPV fights as of late havent did any real numbers because no one wants to see them.
nowadays more people stream and stream. Low numbers will be more normal each year that goes by.
Boxing with it's careful "matching" is destroying itself just like the big rock music business did when they started selling records at 15+.
Boxing should give us better fights than what they have been giving us in the last years.
Floyd-Berto must've been a colossal failure.
It did 500,000 buys, but when you consider Mayweather was paid $32M and Berto was paid $4M. They had to have lost ~$10M on that fight.
Ward-Kovalev will join this list in November.
I believe so too... Both guys coming off of unexciting wins... they both have dry attitudes and are humble which is good personality wise but terrible if your trying to sell a fight... People need to see threats and brawls at the press conference. especially if your not knocking people out in the ring.