Where the hell is this guy? I'm starting to believe in the Donaire curse for real, Rigo's career went nowhere after he beat Donaire and same happened to Walters, I had a lot of expectations from Walters and I was totally on his side during the Lomachenko negotiations at 126 and later at 130.
According to rumors he was having problems with Bob Arum and TR and his contract was due last year I think, is this the conventional case of Arum shelving fighters that want to leave him claiming their contracts aren't really over? Does the robbery draw in his last fight have to do with that? We've seen Pacquiao get robbed against Bradley when his contract was going to run out in 2012 and he was thinking about leaving TR, we saw Cotto lose to Margarito with possible loaded wraps at the same situation.
Does anybody have any news/updates about the guy? It's a shame when these fighters get shelved like that at the pinnacle of their careers.
He should just leave Arum and join Haymon. What's the point of staying when everytime you're asked to fight someone who could give you problems, you say no and want huge money? Leave Arum, end of story.
HBO is hiding him the same way they hid Rigo because he is a threat to their hype job fighter. Remind you these are the same people that paid Ward NOT to beat the dog sh*t out of lil g.
NOPE he had a chance to fight lomachenko for good money walters ducked end of story.dont blame arum blame walters for his inactivity.
He's inactive due to Arum.
You're entitled to your opinion but I wouldn't call Walters' desire to be paid closer to what Lomo was getting a clear duck. After Arum shut him down and backed Lomo as the bigger star, Walters appeared to have let his pride get the better of him and probably burned some bridges at TR.
I tune out 95% of the people that use the term "duck." Most are idiots.
Could be doing what Brandon Rios just did, maybe letting his contract run Out?
Extremely talented fighter, don't want to see him waste Prime Years away trying to get out of a Promotional Deal but if that is what is best for HIM then so be it :dunno:
It is impossible to become a star in boxing when fighters just disappear and doesn't show up until they're getting ready to fight and expect casuals to have a fuking clue who they are
I understand that u r a fan of Lomachenko, but saying that Walters deserved a draw against Sosa is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this website.
So Walters, the guy that WON his coming out party against a known guy in Donaire, should accept a lower purse than the guy who LOST his coming out party against Salido, Salido is the guy that lost to almost all the great fighters he fought? OK
The guy that speaks English and Spanish, who has a more exciting style and KO power, who can actually give interesting interviews, shouldn't be backed as a star or at least get treated the same way a Euro guy who's absolutely not interesting outside of the ring with no Charisma whatsoever, that makes a lot of sense!
It was clear as day that TR and HBO were favoring Lomachenko and Walters felt like if the fight was close he was gonna get robbed.
Since when does your record reflect what you deserve in boxing? I hear all these guys all the time claiming that the name of the game is "prize fighting". If instead of that you thought like any other sport fan, you should know it should be the best against the best at their best.
Prize fighting logic dictates that the draw gets the big bucks. Walter's isn't a draw and was offer a more than decent payday and he ducked. Loma might not be a big draw either but he got a better deal because the promoter has more faith in him in the long run.
As long as the name of the game is "prize fighting" if you don't sell and you're given a reasonable offer and refuse it....you sir are a duck. I liked Walters a lot and made several threads about him, but if the guy is a duck, he is a duck. You can't cover the sky with your hands.
I think he's unhappy with his situation with Top Rank. I think it may end up being another Mikey Garcia case.
I had extremely high hopes for him as well, but for better or worse he's having issues with TR, we'll see how it plays out but I wouldn't say he's destroying his career just yet nor would I say he's being a diva (he doesn't think he's being treated fair, that in itself doesn't necessarily mean he's being a diva).
Top Rank/Bob Arum treat some of their fighters really good and others terrible. We've seen plenty examples of rhatz like Rigondeaux for example (Arum, his own promoter, talking **** about him being boring, I can't promote him, etc etc.). If Bob doesn't think you're marketable, he does a **** job.
I think this post sums it up. I hope he can either get out of his TR deal or begins to fight again because the sport is better with him in it.
I think he's unhappy with his situation with Top Rank. I think it may end up being another Mikey Garcia case.
I had extremely high hopes for him as well, but for better or worse he's having issues with TR, we'll see how it plays out but I wouldn't say he's destroying his career just yet nor would I say he's being a diva (he doesn't think he's being treated fair, that in itself doesn't necessarily mean he's being a diva).
Top Rank/Bob Arum treat some of their fighters really good and others terrible. We've seen plenty examples of rhatz like Rigondeaux for example (Arum, his own promoter, talking **** about him being boring, I can't promote him, etc etc.). If Bob doesn't think you're marketable, he does a **** job.
I understand that he's not liking how he's being treated, but there's a difference between getting shafted and just not having draw power. Right now Walters has no leverage. If he goes the Garcia route and lays low for 2 years, he'll come back with even less leverage than before and will be getting the same 500k paychecks from Haymon.
Boxing's popularity is declining, while all of these fighters keep thinking they're underpaid and not treated fairly. Danny Garcia apparently wants $40m for Pac, Broner pricing himself out, Jessie Vargas couldn't agree with Brook, all the idiots who want $5M from Golovkin.. etc. It's a catch 22. Fighters don't want to fight the best because they're 'not paid what they're worth', while the lack of marquee fights is killing the sport.
You'd think the guys would realize the realities of the situation. Postol just got $750k to fight the #1 guy on PPV. Tim Bradley got $6M for a fight with Pacquaio who's a legend, and their PPV bombed financially. Yet Walters still somehow thought he's gonna get a million from someone.
NOPE he had a chance to fight lomachenko for good money walters ducked end of story.dont blame arum blame walters for his inactivity.
Arum has no paitence for those type, ask mikey garcia.
I understand that u r a fan of Lomachenko, but saying that Walters deserved a draw against Sosa is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this website.
So Walters, the guy that WON his coming out party against a known guy in Donaire, should accept a lower purse than the guy who LOST his coming out party against Salido, Salido is the guy that lost to almost all the great fighters he fought? OK
The guy that speaks English and Spanish, who has a more exciting style and KO power, who can actually give interesting interviews, shouldn't be backed as a star or at least get treated the same way a Euro guy who's absolutely not interesting outside of the ring with no Charisma whatsoever, that makes a lot of sense!
It was clear as day that TR and HBO were favoring Lomachenko and Walters felt like if the fight was close he was gonna get robbed.
Hey.. Salido didn't make weight and outweighed Loma by 11 pounds fight night. No one considerers that lose valid.
I agree. Walters didnt want any part of lomachenko. Its a pure profit fight for arum if its made so he has nothing to lose. Walters deserved his draw against sosa for not throwing enough punches
I understand that u r a fan of Lomachenko, but saying that Walters deserved a draw against Sosa is one of the most ignorant things I've ever read on this website.
So Walters, the guy that WON his coming out party against a known guy in Donaire, should accept a lower purse than the guy who LOST his coming out party against Salido, Salido is the guy that lost to almost all the great fighters he fought? OK
The guy that speaks English and Spanish, who has a more exciting style and KO power, who can actually give interesting interviews, shouldn't be backed as a star or at least get treated the same way a Euro guy who's absolutely not interesting outside of the ring with no Charisma whatsoever, that makes a lot of sense!
It was clear as day that TR and HBO were favoring Lomachenko and Walters felt like if the fight was close he was gonna get robbed.
NOPE he had a chance to fight lomachenko for good money walters ducked end of story.dont blame arum blame walters for his inactivity.
I agree. Walters didnt want any part of lomachenko. Its a pure profit fight for arum if its made so he has nothing to lose. Walters deserved his draw against sosa for not throwing enough punches
NOPE he had a chance to fight lomachenko for good money walters ducked end of story.dont blame arum blame walters for his inactivity.
You're entitled to your opinion but I wouldn't call Walters' desire to be paid closer to what Lomo was getting a clear duck. After Arum shut him down and backed Lomo as the bigger star, Walters appeared to have let his pride get the better of him and probably burned some bridges at TR.