...for the way they're managing their respective careers?
They're practically in the same situation and have taken the same kind of decissions
- Both have been disgracefully ducked by the top names of their divisions for years, the so called champs would rather vacate the belts than fighting them
- Both have been fighting B levels, no hopers or outright bums because they can't get a big fight
- Both are praised as unbeatable gods in their own divisions, both are getting old, people wants to see them challenged asap so they can solidify their legacies before they are washed up, but both fighters have avoided what could have been the greatest test of their careers. Ward and Lomachenko, respectively
- Both fighters are trying to nitpick the fights they would move up or down for:
---- GGG is willing to move up to 168 for Froch or Chavez, but not for Ward, he'll only fight Ward at a catchweight. He'll move down to 154 for Floyd, but not to 155 for Canelo
--- similarly, Rigo has claimed he'd move up in weight for Santa Cruz or Jhonny Gonzalez, but not for Lomachenko. He'll only fight Loma at a catchweight
I'm not trying to criticize these fighters for doing what's best for their careers (or at least that's what they think). The point is, GGG gets lapidated by haters on daily basis for taking these decissions, meanwhile, Rigo does the exact same **** and gets a free pass from the same hatas, and pretty much everyone else
so why the double standards? These guys are in the exact same position, they're both too good and too avoided, their clock is tickling, they need big legacy fights asap, yet they're not taking the few chances available for them
why the double standards?
Rico doesn't not have a fan friendly style. only purist like him or countrymen.
He got the Donaire fight because they both were promoted by TR and we know that TR will make as many in house fights as they can.
Rigo thy-out his career has priced himself out thinking he is worth more that he actually does. He might have the skills but nobody is paying to see him
I still have yet to see a sensible explanation for this. Can't help but think this has something to do with race. Why is GG so hated from the same group of haters, but not Rigo?
Because the ones critical of GGG look at him as an enemy to the black man same way they looked at Pacquiao.
They love Rigo and dont say chit on him he can fight any thai cab driver he wants, they even say 126 pounds is too big for him but want GGG to move up to 168 or 175, yet Rigo said out of his own mouth he beats up bigger guys who weigh over 135 on fight night, yet he wont move to 126 for lomachenko lol
Its all race bias.
I personally dont like GGG stylewise, I have no issue with GGG or Rigo but the lame racial bias started by these pro black floyd fans is sickening they shouldnt even be allowed to speak.
I miss this forum when it was back in 2005-2007 before Floyd blew up on 24/7 and got these new world star hip hop fanboys who search on boxrec and never really followed boxing but act like they do online. These floymos are the worst of the worst.
what the hell are u talking about. u guys bring up race none stop and somehow its the other fans fault lol. the assumptions that rigo fans are all dark skinned might be most ridiculous sentiment i have heard on nsb
Rigo actually is the man in his division n can't get anyone in the ring....EARNED his belts by fighting for them...if anyone is being pampered its GGG...2/3 belts gift wrapped
2 diff scenarios
not only that, they had Kirkland-tapia, a local kid that loss that night, after the fight all his fans went home so they blame Rigondeaux for ppl leaving the site, nobody was there to watch the Cuban, and adbeko became gun shy after the first minute of the fight.
Yeah they put him in a position to lose, . In a perfect world getting W should be all that matters and being the best should count for something but it doesn't its a business first and a sport second
I'm a fan of his but the combination of being too good , bad business choices, no fanbase and a non fan pleasing style has left Rigo basically spinning his wheels as far as his career goes.
I fail to see how Rigo is "getting a pass". He's not even on TV.
Was literally about to post the same thing. Rigo has like 4 fans, can't get a fight and gets ****ted on by his own promoter and the commentators of HBO. I've also seen plenty of boxing writers lambaste Rigo as well for his resume post-Donaire and his 'boring' style. I see more negative posts about Rigo on NSB than positive posts so what pass is this guy getting?
Essentially Yeah after beating Donaire. Arum called him boring and made plenty of negative comments about Rigo. then on his next fight against Abeko he went head to head against The Paulie / Zab card which included Lara / Trout & Porter / Alexander and blamed him for the sh.it ratings of 550k but Loma pulls in 585 this week and have you read any negative comments from Arum about Loma
saying Things like people dont wAnt to watch him & he's boring this is his f.uckin promoter not exactly a ringing endorsement. Call it what you want but Arum didn't do Rigo any favours once he beat Donaire.not only that, they had Kirkland-tapia, a local kid that loss that night, after the fight all his fans went home so they blame Rigondeaux for ppl leaving the site, nobody was there to watch the Cuban, and adbeko became gun shy after the first minute of the fight.
You don't know Miami very well then. The Cuban's in Miami are predominantly white Cubans, vote Republican... I don't think I need to fill in the blanks for you. They're not exactly as welcoming to their 'countrymen' as you think. If it was so easy that you could promote a Cuban fighter in Miami, it would have been done by now. But why hasn't it? Because there's no market for them there. Cuban's aren't going to appear in droves to support a Black Cuban, most Cuban boxers are black. That's just reality, unfortunately, and the lack of shows proves that. If he was white would it be easier? maybe but that would wouldn't be a guarantee either. When was the last time they had a big boxing event there? It's just not a big boxing market as people think it is.
HBO has given Rigo several chances. Rigo doesn't have any appeal. He doesn't speak English, he's got the personality of a brick, doesn't have a flashy style, and he's been booed heavily in his recent HBO fights. His last fight against Drian was supposed to be a fight to make him look good on a big PPV undercard... and he choked and put up, arguably, one of the worst performances of the year.You are so wrong, I have been on the two biggest boxing events in South Florida, Casamayor-seda at the Arena and a show that feature like 8 Cubans at the Doubletree, both were packed, hey Barthelemy fought at the Hard Rock and a lot fans show up, arum didn't want to stage an event in Miami with Rigondeaux, simple...
I fail to see how GGG and Rigo fall in the same bucket. Golovkin is a star, while Rigo gets booed out of small arenas. Rigo was given opportunities in his career and he pissed them down the drian, Golovkin is still trying to build his legacy by any means necessary. For all the talk about accomplishments, Golovkin's resume is miles better. Rigo's only win is Donaire. None of his other opponents were even close to Top20 - they're usually 50th ranked fighters.
Being 'ducked' is not the same for all fighters. Rigo gets ducked because he brings nothing to the table. Golovkin gets ducked even though he brings something to the table.
Good point. \
I fail to see how GGG and Rigo fall in the same bucket. Golovkin is a star, while Rigo gets booed out of small arenas. Rigo was given opportunities in his career and he pissed them down the drian, Golovkin is still trying to build his legacy by any means necessary. For all the talk about accomplishments, Golovkin's resume is miles better. Rigo's only win is Donaire. None of his other opponents were even close to Top20 - they're usually 50th ranked fighters.
Being 'ducked' is not the same for all fighters. Rigo gets ducked because he brings nothing to the table. Golovkin gets ducked even though he brings something to the table.
...for the way they're managing their respective careers?
They're practically in the same situation and have taken the same kind of decissions
- Both have been disgracefully ducked by the top names of their divisions for years, the so called champs would rather vacate the belts than fighting them
- Both have been fighting B levels, no hopers or outright bums because they can't get a big fight
- Both are praised as unbeatable gods in their own divisions, both are getting old, people wants to see them challenged asap so they can solidify their legacies before they are washed up, but both fighters have avoided what could have been the greatest test of their careers. Ward and Lomachenko, respectively
- Both fighters are trying to nitpick the fights they would move up or down for:
---- GGG is willing to move up to 168 for Froch or Chavez, but not for Ward, he'll only fight Ward at a catchweight. He'll move down to 154 for Floyd, but not to 155 for Canelo
--- similarly, Rigo has claimed he'd move up in weight for Santa Cruz or Jhonny Gonzalez, but not for Lomachenko. He'll only fight Loma at a catchweight
I'm not trying to criticize these fighters for doing what's best for their careers (or at least that's what they think). The point is, GGG gets lapidated by haters on daily basis for taking these decissions, meanwhile, Rigo does the exact same **** and gets a free pass from the same hatas, and pretty much everyone else
so why the double standards? These guys are in the exact same position, they're both too good and too avoided, their clock is tickling, they need big legacy fights asap, yet they're not taking the few chances available for them
why the double standards?
if anyone has got a pass its GGG
2/3 BELTS were handed to him
he hasnt fought any elite or p4p type fighters
yet he is billed as the monster and top 3 p4p
he gets more than enough credit...guys like Khan and garcia get crapped on but they regularly fight good opposition
2 different situations....GGG is promoted better while Rigo has/had a promoter who didnt know what to do with him
dude got blackballed as the lineal/unified champion WAS STRIPPED of his titles...alphabet and ring....visa issues...etc.... whereas GGG gets belts gift wrapped and doesnt have to fight for them
gets a pass for bad opposition
"mandatories doe" and "they ducking doe"
rigo didn't duck lomachenko. lomachenko people said the fight didn't happen because of money not weight.
rigo career high payday is 750k which was more than lomachenko had ever made until this past weekend. just for some perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS9IkohUQN8
(4:20 mark)
These people can't be bothered with facts if it doesn't fit their agenda.
Right...so it's exactly the same fighting a guy in your own division ranked 6th as it is moving up 8 lbs to fight arguably the best in the world...
Keep on reaching......Rigo could have moved up 4 lbs for Lomachenko, or did that slip your feeble mind? Rigo can keep on fighting japenese fish market workers on New Year's Eve and never be seen again and I'm sure nobody would even care....
All the points you make are valid but the OP wants to know why Rigo level of competition is accepted but g string is not. My explanation was spot on.
Kicking 35 in the arse without a quality win and no concrete plan to fight one.
Phuckin lol. 99% of Rigo posts on this forum are ****ting on him for being boring and for fighting James Dickens and OP has the nerve to act like GGG gets criticized more.
Rigo has done a terrible job managing his career. Everybody agrees on that. He's been getting ducked much harder than GGG though
Rigondeaux doesn't give people much choice but to duck him. He's a waste of time.
To answer the TS, it's because no one gives a fuk about Rigo, guy ruined his career.
Cuz Rigodeaux took on a threat in the likes of at the time Reigning Fighter of The Year Nonito "Philippino Flash" Donaire!
GGG's best win is Martin Murray! When's the last time GGG wasnt favored to win a fight? That's right..NEVER
There was definitely some folks who thought Donaire had a chance to KO Rigo and he had the power to do it!
GGG would've definitely shut them same people up if he'd took on and beat Ward! Imagine Golovkin with Ward and Lara on his resume win or lose!!
Instead he's becoming a mythical monster without the badges!
Lets be real people were split 50-50 on rigo-donaire going into the fight.
Loma has Rigo shook and for good reason. He aint going near him with a 10 foot pole.
Rigo is a chicken. Deserves all the criticism he gets, dude will be 40 soon enough without ever having fought anyone good.
rigo didn't duck lomachenko. lomachenko people said the fight didn't happen because of money not weight.
rigo career high payday is 750k which was more than lomachenko had ever made until this past weekend. just for some perspective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NS9IkohUQN8
(4:20 mark)
lol so now TR blackballed Rigo cause he beat Donaire? R u serious?
Essentially Yeah after beating Donaire. Arum called him boring and made plenty of negative comments about Rigo. then on his next fight against Abeko he went head to head against The Paulie / Zab card which included Lara / Trout & Porter / Alexander and blamed him for the sh.it ratings of 550k but Loma pulls in 585 this week and have you read any negative comments from Arum about Loma
saying Things like people dont wAnt to watch him & he's boring this is his f.uckin promoter not exactly a ringing endorsement. Call it what you want but Arum didn't do Rigo any favours once he beat Donaire.
Probably because Since Rigo beat Donaire he's been essentially blackballed and banished from TR & HBo and had to fight any name he could get
GGG on the other hand is HBOs love child and has their full backing so there's probably more of a expectation for him to get a big name.
lol so now TR blackballed Rigo cause he beat Donaire? R u serious?