Canelo was willing to fight at 155
GGG ducked the match by not accepting the A-side's conditions
Bowe never wanted to fight Lennox, under any terms, ever
good point.....
This seems to be a fvcking popularity contest, plus a "I dictate the terms, because I am Mexican". Same thing, I know, but in the social media driven world, Canelo has more juice (because he is Mexican).
There are more Mexican boxing fans than Kazaks.
I don't want to blame Floyd for this, but... Floyd laid out the money game.
Get paid, just get paid... Fans come and go, get paid.
Canelo is a boxer/product. Canelo is a product, a brand/image. He is a big draw, looks white, speaks Spanish, cross over appeal is off the charts.
GGG, his "Mexican style" is appreciated be me and other Mexican's who love to see wars. I am intrigued by Canelo's $$$$ first/Floyd like approach to boxing.
Why?
A Mexican who fights and thinks? Interesante!! Muy.
Where you haters this outraged when Floyd forced Canelo to a 152 cw when he was champ at 154, and unlike Canelo, had fought twice in that division?
I'm not hating, just citing facts.
The weight classes are there for a reason. This isn't like that kids game 4-square, where the guy in the 1 spot gets to make the rules. It's boxing, and it has established weight classes.
The rest is just obfuscation, and isn't addressing how a guy holding a belt at 160 refused to defend that belt at 160.
But it's good he got stripped, so props to the WBC. It's rare, and good, to see the sanctioning bodies doing the right thing.
But again if Oscar is saying he'd want 70/30 Canelo to make Floyd vs Canelo II you don't think its reasonable he's talking 90/10 Canelo to make GGG vs Canelo & that K2 & GGG wouldn't be cool with only 10% of the pie?
And Tommy L has already said the weight wasn't the issue.
Whatever the case Canelo is gonna look like a *****. The meme thread is already looking funny as f#ck within 24 hrs.
Oscar knows what GGG primarily wanted. GGG wanted that belt. By giving him the belt, Canelo's team gave up the one thing GGG wanted most to decrease pressure against them. This is all a mirage. They knew they painted themselves into a corner and gave up that belt. Now they are "negotiating" in an attempt to save face.
Canelo didn't throw his belt in the garbage, he sent it to Canelo in a nice lil shiny package with a pleasant note attached to it. It'd probably have worked out for him at least a lil better if he did throw it in the garbage doe.
I suspect the problem is Oscar gots unreasonable demands on the cut. Cuz it sounds like weight wasn't the problem, as expected, to hear K2's take on things. And remember Oscar just said not long ago he'd want a 70/30 Canelo cut to make Canelo vs Floyd II right now. Thats nuts so I suspect he had a nuts take on Canelo vs GGG. Maybe he wanted 90/10 Canelo or something & K2 was in the 70/30 or 60/40 Canelo region. Thats the only thing I can think of & if thats the case these guys won't ever fight til one loses or GGG gets old & the other guy bends.
No they still had time to negotiate money and GGG has never played hardball when it comes to money. Holding on to the belt would have made the 155 weight non negotiable. They dropped it because simply put, they do not want the fight unless they can weaken GGG at the scales. They will fake negotiations now saying that they "tried", but it is bullsh|t.
Do what?!?! The A-side doesn't get to rewrite the weight classes! Get out of here with that garbage.
Where you haters this outraged when Floyd forced Canelo to a 152 cw when he was champ at 154, and unlike Canelo, had fought twice in that division?
what about Manny's cw fights or Cotto's? what about Ward-Dawson? DLH-Hopkins?
Oh yeah, they did that **** because they were a-sides, but it's only a sin when Canelo tries to do it? I dont think it is, considering Canelo is outmatched against GGG in every dept, physically and technically, unlike those other fighters were
Canelo gets too much credit for fighting the Trouts, Lara of the world.
Yes he fought them, but it's a easy thing when neither guy has Knockout power and you know your promoter has judges in his pocket, so all you have to do it last 12 and you will automatically win on the score cards.
But To get in the ring with someone who is more than likely gonna put you to sleep, no robbery, no funny score cards, no disputes.
Canelo was willing to fight at 155
GGG ducked the match by not accepting the A-side's conditions
Do what?!?! The A-side doesn't get to rewrite the weight classes! Get out of here with that garbage.
Canelo was willing to fight at 155
GGG ducked the match by not accepting the A-side's conditions
Bowe never wanted to fight Lennox, under any terms, ever
Being A side doesn't mean you can make retarded, unreasonable demands.
I don't throw the word 'ducking' around a lot, but Canelo very blatantly ducked Golovkin.
Canelo: I'll even fight you at 150
FMJ: O.k. lets do it at 152
Canelo: I was born ready! lets fight.
lil g: Any body from 154-168
Canelo: O.k. lets do it at 155
lil g: Mandatory doe!
Canelo: You can have the belt. lets do it at 155
lil g: You Coward.
...Remember this?:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-t6g8FVmhRa0/Tcgdj-ckRPI/AAAAAAAAJz0/ECqhSIMCQWQ/s1600/Riddick-Bowe.jpg
Man i had a feeling canelita was vacating
What new excuses? his terms were clear and always the same for GGG:
FIGHT ME AT 155 (which you should be able to do, since you dont stop calling out Floyd at 154) OR NO FIGHT
If this match was ever going to happen, it was gonna be on Canelo's terms
GGG had the chance to call the bluff, he didn't
someone filled his head with diva thoughts, thinking he was a bigger star than Canelo, thinking he could impose ****. He was wrong and wasted his chance.
Now he's back to fighting bums and being avoided by the other top fighters, like you know he will
Didn't he say 160 is fine after the Khan fight? from his own mouth...
Say what you want. Canelo and his team would have kept finding new excuses not to fight. They already tested the water with about 5 different excuses in the past couple of months.
What new excuses? his terms were clear and always the same for GGG:
FIGHT ME AT 155 (which you should be able to do, since you dont stop calling out Floyd at 154) OR NO FIGHT
If this match was ever going to happen, it was gonna be on Canelo's terms
GGG had the chance to call the bluff, he didn't
someone filled his head with diva thoughts, thinking he was a bigger star than Canelo, thinking he could impose ****. He was wrong and wasted his chance.
Now he's back to fighting bums and being avoided by the other top fighters, like you know he will
Canelo was willing to fight at 155
GGG ducked the match by not accepting the A-side's conditions
Bowe never wanted to fight Lennox, under any terms, ever
Say what you want. Canelo and his team would have kept finding new excuses not to fight. They already tested the water with about 5 different excuses in the past couple of months.
Canelo was willing to fight at 155
GGG ducked the match by not accepting the A-side's conditions
Bowe never wanted to fight Lennox, under any terms, ever