Manny Pacquiao went from being this super killer, sawing through everybody, to walking away from $50m over the even mention of random blood testing.
Pacquiao and his camp made sure to not ever put him in position to piss/bleed dirty (and the Arum/HBO boxing media made sure that questions about the situation never came up), but the fact that he made the decision to not fight for at least $50m (over not wanting to give up some blood) let alone who cared know that something was up.
Roy Jones Jr tested positive for a substance that was legally available over the counter (funny how, in wanting to make your story, you'd blatantly avoided that point). Mosley snitched on himself (after getting routed twice by Vernon Forest, no one was calling him super anything either).
Manny Pacquiao plays himself up as some pious individual, and the smoke around him leaves many people believing that he was a cheat who simply never got caught. stand by that if you want.
which random drug test are you talking about?
this comes from USADA themselves.
"Also, USADA does not conduct “random” testing. Rather, in accordance with the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) International Standard for Testing and Investigations (ISTI), testing is carried out pursuant to a strategic testing plan to maximize deterrence and detection. "
so paulie has no evidence that Pacquiao cheated he just "believes it in his heart" that's called being delusional.there are other great superstar fighters who have been proven to be cheaters like roy jones and mosley yet paulie never goes after them or anyone else who gets caught cheating.
Manny Pacquiao went from being this super killer, sawing through everybody, to walking away from $50m over the even mention of random blood testing.
Pacquiao and his camp made sure to not ever put him in position to piss/bleed dirty (and the Arum/HBO boxing media made sure that questions about the situation never came up), but the fact that he made the decision to not fight for at least $50m (over not wanting to give up some blood) let alone who cared know that something was up.
Roy Jones Jr tested positive for a substance that was legally available over the counter (funny how, in wanting to make your story, you'd blatantly avoided that point). Mosley snitched on himself (after getting routed twice by Vernon Forest, no one was calling him super anything either).
Manny Pacquiao plays himself up as some pious individual, and the smoke around him leaves many people believing that he was a cheat who simply never got caught. stand by that if you want.
Yep, he said Cotto would be too much but if Pacquiao wins, he "would be, like the greatest fighter ever". Of course he changed his tune after that since like you said Cotto was phenomenal in his mind and for someone like Pacquiao to come along and destroy the guy that whooped Paulie was too much. This was made even worse by the fact he also iced Hatton, another guy who whooped Paulie.
He was stunned watching that fight, as soon as it was over he started talking about Pac and steroids.
My buddy who was a huge ******* at the time almost got into it with him over a argument About it. It was like how people here argue over stuff, but this was irl and with paulie, haha.
I like hearing Paulie call fights and break things down from a technical standpoint...but when it comes to Manny he has got some kind of obvious hatred.
Anything Paulie says regarding Pac be just be ignored. Maybe he has some kind of far fetched hope in the back of his mind that Manny will fight him some day but he would just be Manny's punching bag if it happened.
Bruh, Pacquiao was close enough for anyone to view during the weigh in and during the fight. If he didn't have the scars, it would have been made plenty apparent by now. A lie this easy to disprove wouldn't have made it past the fight.
I'm not arguing that the shoulder necessarily had any consequence on the Mayweather fight, or any other fight, just saying that he did have the surgery.
So when did the tear occur then? During camp? During the actual fight?
If it was during camp he should have postponed the fight. You just don't go into a fight with a severely torn rotator cuff. You can go into a fight with a sprained ankle, a cold, the flu, bruises and stuff like that but not a torn cuff. And if it did occur in camp, how was he able to train for the remainder of camp? He would have been in excruciating pain.
Look, maybe there was some type of shoulder injury that Pac had to deal with but nothing points to it being a "severely torn rotator cuff". You simply can't box with a torn rotator cuff. Berto had a torn tendon and look how terrible he was against Soto Karass. He was basically immobile in that arm. And that little picture that supposedly shows the scars is the equivalent to watching a YT video in 240p. Looks like it could even be acne. Nothing concrete.
But none of that is an excuse for Paulie to be such a bitter hating gremlin though. Pacquiao is simply better than he will ever dream to be and he needs to let it go.
Except for the doctor saying it's a "significant tear". Berto's injury was also worse than most. I think he used the same surgeon as Pacquiao and I remember the surgeon saying it was a career ending type of injury.
Look, maybe there was some type of shoulder injury that Pac had to deal with but nothing points to it being a "severely torn rotator cuff". You simply can't box with a torn rotator cuff. Berto had a torn tendon and look how terrible he was against Soto Karass. He was basically immobile in that arm. And that little picture that supposedly shows the scars is the equivalent to watching a YT video in 240p. Looks like it could even be acne. Nothing concrete.
But none of that is an excuse for Paulie to be such a bitter hating gremlin though. Pacquiao is simply better than he will ever dream to be and he needs to let it go.
Bruh, Pacquiao was close enough for anyone to view during the weigh in and during the fight. If he didn't have the scars, it would have been made plenty apparent by now. A lie this easy to disprove wouldn't have made it past the fight.
I'm not arguing that the shoulder necessarily had any consequence on the Mayweather fight, or any other fight, just saying that he did have the surgery.
Yep, he said Cotto would be too much but if Pacquiao wins, he "would be, like the greatest fighter ever". Of course he changed his tune after that since like you said Cotto was phenomenal in his mind and for someone like Pacquiao to come along and destroy the guy that whooped Paulie was too much. This was made even worse by the fact he also iced Hatton, another guy who whooped Paulie.
No, it's already been posted that it started with Hatton, not Cotto. But Cotto elevated it. Paulie had admitted it in that article.
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The scars are there mate, whether or not you choose to believe that they exist doesn't change that.
Look, maybe there was some type of shoulder injury that Pac had to deal with but nothing points to it being a "severely torn rotator cuff". You simply can't box with a torn rotator cuff. Berto had a torn tendon and look how terrible he was against Soto Karass. He was basically immobile in that arm. And that little picture that supposedly shows the scars is the equivalent to watching a YT video in 240p. Looks like it could even be acne. Nothing concrete.
But none of that is an excuse for Paulie to be such a bitter hating gremlin though. Pacquiao is simply better than he will ever dream to be and he needs to let it go.
Paulie hates Manny ever since the Hatton vs Maliggnagi fight. Someone posted it here before that was the root of his hate, Manny acted like Paulie didnt exist and they were saying they were already in conversation to fight Hatton, and Paulie took that as a sign of disrespect because team Pac thought Paulie would be an easy win for Hatton and Paulie said he would beat Hatton and challenge Manny, instead it was an easy win for Hatton, it was embarrassing loss a short armed slugger like Hatton actually outboxed the boxer in paulie.
Also Paulie tried to be cool with Manny at the Cotto vs Pacquiao pressure but Manny ignored him there as well, Paulie needs to let it go man, Pacquiao wasn't trying to be rude on purpose he just doesn't really follow todays boxing as much anymore he is an old school head and only remembers boxers from the 80s and 90s.
Paulie is a cool dude but yeah he hates Pac bad.
Me I am fair, I call things how I see it and I felt Bradley beat Manny comfortably but they ruled a slip a knockdown and ruined Bradley chances of winning.
Nah it started with Pacquiao vs Cotto.
I use to watch boxing at the same bar paulie did in Manhattan. I've watched fights there will Muriqi, Briggs, Paulie, and some other lesser known guys.
Paulie took a lot of pride over his fight with Cotto. It gave Jim his career, and fans gave him a lot of props for it. To this day, he still says Cotto was his best opponent.
He swore up and down Cotto would destroy Pac. Said Pac wouldn't be able to move up against someone as good as Cotto.
Thats the day paulie started hating on everything Pac did, and started talking about PEDs all the time. He was mad Pac made Paulies best fight look like nothing.
Paulie is a clown.
Ever since manny destroyed Cotto, paulie has gone after him. I'm not even saying he's wrong about manny using PEDs, but move on already.
Besides he lost all credibility by working with memo, and never doing VADA testing himself.
Paulie hates Manny ever since the Hatton vs Maliggnagi fight. Someone posted it here before that was the root of his hate, Manny acted like Paulie didnt exist and they were saying they were already in conversation to fight Hatton, and Paulie took that as a sign of disrespect because team Pac thought Paulie would be an easy win for Hatton and Paulie said he would beat Hatton and challenge Manny, instead it was an easy win for Hatton, it was embarrassing loss a short armed slugger like Hatton actually outboxed the boxer in paulie.
Also Paulie tried to be cool with Manny at the Cotto vs Pacquiao pressure but Manny ignored him there as well, Paulie needs to let it go man, Pacquiao wasn't trying to be rude on purpose he just doesn't really follow todays boxing as much anymore he is an old school head and only remembers boxers from the 80s and 90s.
Paulie is a cool dude but yeah he hates Pac bad.
Me I am fair, I call things how I see it and I felt Bradley beat Manny comfortably but they ruled a slip a knockdown and ruined Bradley chances of winning.
root of paulie hates..
article here:
https://www.boxing247.com/weblog/archives/120060
Paulie is such a moron. He's almost a 40 year old man, and he's arguing with people on Twitter. Shows the level of maturity this guy has.
He's like a 12 year old trapped in a 16 year old homosexual's body.
Paulie hates Manny ever since the Hatton vs Maliggnagi fight. Someone posted it here before that was the root of his hate, Manny acted like Paulie didnt exist and they were saying they were already in conversation to fight Hatton, and Paulie took that as a sign of disrespect because team Pac thought Paulie would be an easy win for Hatton and Paulie said he would beat Hatton and challenge Manny, instead it was an easy win for Hatton, it was embarrassing loss a short armed slugger like Hatton actually outboxed the boxer in paulie.
Also Paulie tried to be cool with Manny at the Cotto vs Pacquiao pressure but Manny ignored him there as well, Paulie needs to let it go man, Pacquiao wasn't trying to be rude on purpose he just doesn't really follow todays boxing as much anymore he is an old school head and only remembers boxers from the 80s and 90s.
Paulie is a cool dude but yeah he hates Pac bad.
Me I am fair, I call things how I see it and I felt Bradley beat Manny comfortably but they ruled a slip a knockdown and ruined Bradley chances of winning.
nah, u got pac fans messed up with the other group. pac fans are pinoys, whites that hate blacks and some mexicans.
Floyd was a Pac fan before he became a rival. Broner is a fan. It's not hard to be a fan if you've been following boxing for a while
I wonder if Paulie received any death threats yet?!?....people live, die and would kill for Pac....I hope Paulie got a gun permit so he won't get bagged for putting a few holes in mfers