How was GGG seen in 2009-2013?

I remember I read many old articles in the last weeks about Gennady. These were from 2009-2013. He was seen as the future MW champion by many. Or as a superb MW. Someone that was a threat and was coming to take over the MW division. Some also said things like: "yeah, he's good, let's see". That was the lowest opinion you could find about him. Then he started unifying belts and one portion of the boxing fans started calling him overrated, someone with no resume and so on. WTF happened. Some people are really jealous of someone's success. 2011 article/thread on Boxingscene regarding Ouma being hospitalized after fight with Golovkin: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=488752 I didnt see that fight. Hope hes gonna be ok. Dayum sure Golovkin gonna get even more avoided. People back in 2011 was already speaking of Golovkin being avoided. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=583211 - 2013 article/thread talking about Sturm avoiding Golovkin when he was his mandatory Man, thats hilarious. The list of guys ducking GGG is pretty impressive. Am I allowed to add Quillin to that list, or will I open a can of worms? :lol1: Quillin Gaele Sturm Martinez (dibella) All these guys avoided or are avoiding Golovkin. Thats all the other belt holders and the best fighters in the division. It is truly said Article from 2012: Seems like no one wants to face this guy. It's getting pretty ridiculous now. Ward words towards GGG in January 2013: "Golovkin is a strong kid," Ward said. "Physically, he looks like he hits pretty hard, he's got some heavy hands. He looks like he's getting a push from media and fans. I think he's got potential, but I think he's got work to do. He's gotta beat some upper-echelon guys. Right now it doesn't look like those guys want to fight him, so it's not his fault. But I definitely feel like that could be a big fight (between he and Golovkin) down the road. Ward himself said... the guys are avoiding him, it's not his fault. Article/thread from 2013 when GGG stopped Maclkin and broke his rib: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=602669 I think GGG is the best fighter in the world and he is not going to be defeated. Also, Macklin's face was a freakin mess from very few shots. This dude has dynamite in his fists... Article/thread from 2010 when GGG was avoided by Mundine: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389917 People talking about all the good MWs avoiding Golovkin, six years ago: Good luck Golovkin , no one in the top 10 will reply to your letters, send a message to someone ranked around 50..they will be happy for a payday while higher ranked boxers are afraid to lose and drop in the ranking list..bitter truth I could go on forever... people was respecting him like the tremendous fighter he is. Saying how impressive he was. But when success and recognition came after 2014, something happened. Assh*les started to hate him badly. They hate him, they envy him. They say he's a bum. They blame him for not having big names on his resume, when even Ward himself said it was not his fault that people was avoiding him. We have fighters like Sergio Martinez saying GGG was off the charts, and so on, but they ignore it, they just hate it. And Ward, the *******, now calls him "little G". The stupid no brainers tell him B side, and says he needs to lose weight for a fat ginger that outweights him already. Some people is just stupid and that will never change.

Comments (20)

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6y ago

hayZ

Honestly, he was RARELY mentioned here or in the mainstream until 2013. It was all Floyd/Pac. I only really noticed him once he finished Rosado, I think that's when people started to notice him and think of him as actually being legit. Beating everyone put in front of him and finishing them.

10y ago

MDPopescu

Back in 2011 he was scheduled to fight Dmitry Pirog in order to unify (WBA and WBO)... Pirog retired due to back injury.

10y ago

MDPopescu

How did Gilovkin win the WBA? How did Wilder win Vitali's belt?

10y ago

MDPopescu

10y ago

Citizen_Koba

He was a mega superstar in Germany he was signed to the biggest promoter in GER Universum - right? Nah ... they matched him fairly well early but as soon as it became apparent that he might be a legitimate challenge to their cash cow Sturm and stablemate Zbik the fights dried up. He was well known amongst the boxing cognescenti but a long, loooong way from stardom - unless you were being sarcastic? If so I apologise, I ain't really firing on all cylinders this morning.

10y ago

Adonis_Creed

First time i remember hearing about ggg it was a Chavez Jr story and they said Golovkin would knock his head off if they fought

10y ago

TheCell8

My favorite part about looking back at these old threads are the comments like "Golovkin is hype the fight with Macklin will tell us if he's the real deal" or "Is Golovkin afraid of Curtis Stevens?" Funny thing is the people who made these comments didn't exactly live up to their word and are still highly critical. But you can't please everybody.

10y ago

aldo5408

Honestly he was the same as seen today

10y ago

paulf

I knew nothing about him until Felix Strum tried to bribe the WBA some crazy amount of money, like a quarter million dollars or something, in order to not have to fight him. Turned out all he had to do was ask, meanwhile the the middleman pocketed all the money :rofl: That was the point where I started paying attention to him.

10y ago

Buckfever

Uh I bet if he was better managed, he'd be bigger than Canelo now. Just kidding, that's a terrible point you're making. You'll find he's done far better than anyone from central Asia that didn't get an HBO shot till his 30ies. It's quite amazing what they've done. See Kovalev for comparison Well my point is that their positioning of 154-168 now is causing them to not get Canelo or Ward with their refusal to accept Canelos catch watch or demand a catch weight on Ward. Which are their 2 biggest opportunities. There's really nothing else for them as far as a money fight.

10y ago

Scipio2009

Tbh, they believe it when you state it, especially when you have a legion of followers that love Thunderdork Boxing (youtube channel) that tries so hard to justify purses and Lil'Gs opposition of choice. This is why everybody and their mother knows exactly what time it is when a boxer, HOF, trainer, industry all state "it's a business." Meaning they agree that choices will come off as a duck and rightly so. Some are more apparent than others. For example! I wish McGuigan and Frampton would just man up and admit the high risk low reward... how does Frampton say himself in a post fight conf. that he has always loved the idea to fight Rigo but then goes quiet when McGuigan says the money isn't right. Everybody knew that Rigo vs Frampton was next after the Dickens and Quigg bout. Even Warren said it himself after the Dickens fight Rigo would take on Frampton all in the context of Box Nation. This is what is wrong with boxing that many dummies here actually believe the Visa problem was caused by Rigo. Everybody knows Rigo would school Dickens so being paid to not fight perhaps for the same amount isn't bad in Rigo's mind? Thé reason Rigo didn't fight Dickens was because Box Nation orchestrated it all and even paid Roc Nation compensation, easily, all so that Warren could protect McGuigan's cocerned investment and not ever or any time soon fight Rigo. Barry McGuigan was simply "keeping it real"; rather than slog through bringing in Rigo for a ho-hum fight (rumors abound that Rigo's camp has turned down really good money for other fights/working with an actual promoter, in a somewhat deluded view of his own value, tbh), McGuigan and the camp chose to steer Frampton toward a fight with Leo Santa Cruz (in an also dangerous fight, but on a stage that brings in money from more sources for Frampton). You figure that, if Frampton were to win the fight, he's in position for another 3-5 big fights at 126. Again, options for fights are key.

10y ago

SilverMiles

Nobody is looking for Monroe Jr. If he was in demand he'd have a fight by now. He's mentioned when people want to clown on GGG's resume. You're the president of the Willie Monroe fan club now? It's not his fault Canelo chose to fight a WW instead of a MW, you know the division he holds a title in. Like I said your making up stories because he and Lemule was considered opponents for Canelo. Nothing you say will change that. Come at it from a better angle though you might be able to fool some of these posters but I see through bull**** quiet easily.

10y ago

OnePunch1099

You claimed Lara didn't fit in the budget. So I assumed you had knew the budget. So you're talking outta your ass making stuff up. HBO pays for the fight, not there purses. You don't know the licensing fee just because you know the purse. wasnt it you that posted last week that "HBO paid $2.2 million for Ward-Barrera"? Did your HBO license fee source dry up?

10y ago

SilverMiles

He's largely ignored by fans now! The only time his name is brought up is when people talk about how weak GGG's resume is. He bought the line that fighting GGG would bring him more exposure and a chance at bigger fights. He hasn't fought since and was just talking about quitting boxing to become a fireman. And he only got paid $100k. He could've made that in 3 fights last year, stayed busy, built up house name, then fought another top middleweight for more money. Everyone involved in that fight should be ashamed of themselves Bull****. He was mentioned as a possible opponent for Canelo many time by the fans. People constantly say they would like to see him fight Lemule. Hell posters on here was saying BJS should fight him instead of Bursak. He would never have been mention as a possible opponent for any of those guys if he hadn't fought GGG. Fighters on ESPN make $20000 a fight so you're math is way off in that regard and HBO and Showtime weren't calling him up anytime soon. And let's not forgot FNF ended soon after, so no ESPN dates for him.

10y ago

HeroBando

The purse is public knowledge but the licensing isn't. Show me the numbers of the budget for the fight. Why are you asking me for something that's not public knowledge? What's known is that fights on that contract had combined main event purses of 1.5, 1.35 and 1.6m. You gotta be a really desperate hater to think those came with 4m+ in license fees. And ignorant of boxing to boot

10y ago

SilverMiles

Exactly, it was 2 months, that's the problem. It showed that they didn't even try to make a fight with anyone else. They went for a guy who would say yes and accept $100k. GGG was aiming for 4 fights last year, may was the date he was offered from HBO. The date wasn't meant for a high profile fight it was meant for a stay busy fight. The know the type of fights all fighters have even the ones that fight once a year. Modern era fights 60's to now all fight 1 or 2 top contenders a year. GGG did that, he wasn't obiligated to fight Lara, he could have but instead he fought Lemule and Murray two fights most were asking for.

10y ago

BoliviaChiLEsp

Nice thread!

10y ago

Fetta

looked like the goods and couldnt wait to see him fight the big boys......STILL WAITING

10y ago

SilverMiles

He got a $100k purse. :lol1: His biggest purse to date, an opportunity to dethrone GGG which would have lead to a rematch and even bigger purse. Date on HBO and now a date on Showtime in another fight that could lead him to title contention, Without the GGG fight he would be largely ignored by ignorant fans who throw around terms like ESPN level fighter, as if fighters don't have the right to move up in the boxing world. Like I said two months after a fight with top rated Murray he took a turn up fight with Monroe. In this era guys usually only fight one or two too fighters. GGG did that in 2015.

10y ago