Forreal doe, dat was mo' entertaining than any boxing I've seen this year

Sooo UFC's P4P #1 fighter just lost to a guy who had a 7 day training camp? LMAO. That sport is a joke. A circus.

If that's what you think go watch UFC boxing nor it's fans will miss you.

Guys you also have to consider that UFC fighters get matched much harder, boxing used to be like this too but now it's all about the 0. Most ATGs have several loses on their records, that was normal back in the day, now everyone wants to follow the path of least resistance. Yeah ATGs do have losses...to other top fighters in 99% of cases. What we saw last night was if a top fighter had lost to a journeyman in boxing, while still at or near his physical prime. You would rarely see such a thing.

i see people giving Conor a lot of credit for moving up in weight, but Nate Diaz, his opponent is a 155 LB fighter the weight class Conor was suppose to be fighting that night because he could not make 145 anymore Nate was fighting on 11 days notice the fight was at 170lbs near both thier walking weights, so basically this was a fight where neither had to cut weight they both came a pound or two under. and the best moments of that fight were when they were exchanging hands did you guys even watch the Ali-Vargas fight or the Douglas fight? they're were good boxing fights on last night

Guys you also have to consider that UFC fighters get matched much harder, boxing used to be like this too but now it's all about the 0. Most ATGs have several loses on their records, that was normal back in the day, now everyone wants to follow the path of least resistance.

the only pleasure i get out of UFC is in seeing its hypejobs go up in flames time and time again i can't take it seriously as a sport. imagine a situation where a boxer KOed the p4p #1 within 10 seconds and then got stopped by a late replacement in his next fight. it would never happen. there don't seem to be clearly defined levels to MMA. when the supposed top guys (and girls) are that vulnerable to being upset by mediocre opposition, it suggests that the talent pool is shallow and the actual art form in unrefined. boxing has more than a century of evolution behind it at this point (arguably much more); UFC is child's play in comparison Exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong because I'm ignorant to the sport. But to me it will be impossible to stay atop because it's a mixed bag of everything. Your typical boxer been fighting since he was 8 years old and has been mastering the craft and polishing his skills for years. Here you have guys with little to no boxing experience trying to learn it part time and it shows. By part time I mean you can't spend an entire camp on boxing because there's so much other **** you gotta learn. I just think I prefer to enjoy masters of one art form compete at the highest level.

We got 4 good fight tonight McGregor/Diaz , Holm/Miasha, Vargas/Ali , Douglas/Khurtsidze

Did anyone rewatch it? Two guys squaring up to one another, taunting each other with little to no coordination.

the only pleasure i get out of UFC is in seeing its hypejobs go up in flames time and time again i can't take it seriously as a sport. imagine a situation where a boxer KOed the p4p #1 within 10 seconds and then got stopped by a late replacement in his next fight. it would never happen. there don't seem to be clearly defined levels to MMA. when the supposed top guys (and girls) are that vulnerable to being upset by mediocre opposition, it suggests that the talent pool is shallow and the actual art form in unrefined. boxing has more than a century of evolution behind it at this point (arguably much more); UFC is child's play in comparison

This is nothing new though. MMA always offered more toe to toe action and entertainment. And the lack of boxing skill makes them more vulnerable which leads to more blood and guts. It's better for the bar atmosphere. I like boxing because I appreciate the skill and the mental games in it but I can understand how it is an acquired taste. But hey, why does it have to be one or the other? I can enjoy a bag of Flamin Hot Cheetos and some gummi bears as well as a filet Mignon with steamed veggies.

It's not about being burnt out or that mma is so versatility that you have more ways of losing...it's more to do with empty hype. Both McGregor and Rousey are good fighters but their marketing push was based on their pro-wrestling like characters that noobs embraced. McGregor beating Mendes and Aldo was impressive but if you really look at the circumstances of those fights you didn't get a complete answer as to how good he is, and bottom line, if you talk so much trash you better back it up.

I'm surprised by all the butt-hurt McGregor fans on here. You guys really wanted to believe the hype :owned: He got stunned by a guy not known for his power and couldn't cope, and then he goes for a takedown of all things lol. It doesn't bode well for his future fights now that he isn't picking on midgets anymore.

Now lets get that phagot Canelo facing someone as strong as him(before the gaymon boys come in talking about how Golovkin should fight him at 155, phagots)

I see guys who are full time no-life fat white ufc fans hanging out in boxing forums on their spare time from hanging out in MMA forums.

Nate Diaz is not a "journeyman" though. He has a long list of class wins. He's just reckless I don't know what the boxing equivalent would be. Maybe a prime Mayorga. If you moved up 25 lbs to fight a 30 year old Mayorga would that be losing to a journeyman? People who literally don't know what they're talking about and admit they don't even follow the sport aren't people who "get it".

I just watched it and didn't find it exciting at all. It was lime watching two drunks throwing punches. If you find that exciting then Boxing isn't for you. If you think that low skilled **** is better than boxing you were never a boxing fan. I gotta agree, UFC can be entertaining at times (when two guys are standing and fighting and not jumping on each others ass for 15 minutes) but the quality is seriously lacking when one of the top guys loses to a man who is a UFC journeyman. It's quite sad actually. The UFC can not maintain a single star because, in all honesty, there are no stars. UFC sells on it's brand and the odd stand out who comes along and then disappears. I can't take a sport like that seriously. People who get it. I think that maybe in the future I'll be a fan of the sport as fighters continue to develop but as of now, hell to the no.

Very true, you know the upper crust in most divisions, the top 3-4 guys would be better than the top 3-4 guys in a UFC division. There's no doubt MMA has seen soem quality, i.e. Silva, GSP, Jones but that list is so damn short it's almost laughable. What boxing can learn is to restrict fighter purses to something more manageable, which would increase quality match ups between evenly matched opponents and thus provide us with more entertaining bouts. Just last night we saw Ali v Vargas, two almost evenly matched guys who gave us a terrific match up. Agreed to the fullest. Some guys are making way too much money before their time. They are getting paid on an investment standard and not on their actual worth. So of course if they are making bank money they lose their drive to step up (a bird in the hand).

Its a damned if you do damned if you dont deal. You want more exciting fights but at the time same you want a recognized skill level. Hard to get both. Its the reason why even with boxings abc champions its even harder to take a UFC champ serious as a champ. Very true, you know the upper crust in most divisions, the top 3-4 guys would be better than the top 3-4 guys in a UFC division. There's no doubt MMA has seen soem quality, i.e. Silva, GSP, Jones but that list is so damn short it's almost laughable. What boxing can learn is to restrict fighter purses to something more manageable, which would increase quality match ups between evenly matched opponents and thus provide us with more entertaining bouts. Just last night we saw Ali v Vargas, two almost evenly matched guys who gave us a terrific match up.

I gotta agree, UFC can be entertaining at times (when two guys are standing and fighting and not jumping on each others ass for 15 minutes) but the quality is seriously lacking when one of the top guys loses to a man who is a UFC journeyman. It's quite sad actually. The UFC can not maintain a single star because, in all honesty, there are no stars. UFC sells on it's brand and the odd stand out who comes along and then disappears. I can't take a sport like that seriously. Its a damned if you do damned if you dont deal. You want more exciting fights but at the time same you want a recognized skill level. Hard to get both. Its the reason why even with boxings abc champions its even harder to take a UFC champ serious as a champ.

I gotta agree, UFC can be entertaining at times (when two guys are standing and fighting and not jumping on each others ass for 15 minutes) but the quality is seriously lacking when one of the top guys loses to a man who is a UFC journeyman. It's quite sad actually. The UFC can not maintain a single star because, in all honesty, there are no stars. UFC sells on it's brand and the odd stand out who comes along and then disappears. I can't take a sport like that seriously.