May 22nd is the new deadline for Canelo-GGG to make a deal, does it happen?

Nelo will out grow 155 before the end of the year . Gg better take advantage and implement an over weight fee.so he either gets a nice purse if cheated on the scales or nelo drains himself

They just seem so sure this time that I didn't even think about adding that option, if there's a way to edit a poll, let me know, cause I've never seen it done unless it was a mod. no idea honestly...

they have done that 3 times already, that should be a very probable scenario and you need to add it to the poll... They just seem so sure this time that I didn't even think about adding that option, if there's a way to edit a poll, let me know, cause I've never seen it done unless it was a mod.

Yeah but we've already had several deadlines and step-aside money doled out. And really, why would Canelo give a f*ck? The belts and GGG need him. You're probably right.

Doubt it, but if his team accepts more step aside money, then I don't wanna hear a word from GGG's team or his fans. they have done that 3 times already, that should be a very probable scenario and you need to add it to the poll...

So GGG has to lose weight so Canelo can outweigh him in the fight? :bryce: GGG can do what he wants. Try and comprehend when you read.

you need to add another very probable scenario: no agreement reached, ggg steps aside again... Doubt it, but if his team accepts more step aside money, then I don't wanna hear a word from GGG's team or his fans.

The "new" deadline, huh. What happened to the last one? And why does it matter really? Canelo will do what Canelo wants to do. GGG can force the belt, but he can't force the fight which is what he and every fan wants to see. I really can't see it happening this year, not with Canelo eyeing the Pacquiao-Bradley winner (I know, I know). I hate to say this but a part of me wants Khan to win so I can witness the f*ckery that ensues. So GGG has to lose weight so Canelo can outweigh him in the fight? :bryce:

gonna be pretty hard to wbc to justify canelo not having to fight him, but im sure theyll come up with something

But the WBC can force the fight if they really wanted to, he is holding their belt, if he can't or won't defend it, then they need to take it off of him. Yeah but we've already had several deadlines and step-aside money doled out. And really, why would Canelo give a f*ck? The belts and GGG need him.

I'm fine with 158

unless canelo agrees to 157/158+ then they should push to have him stripped as soon as possible. he will inevitably outgrow 155 soon, so either he will be forced to fight golovkin on golovkin's turf or will get himself beaten by some random welter due to being drained. jacobs and saunders should be the top targets for GGG and K2 now ggg tries to force canelos hand and he wont get the fight in the future, that lil red haired mofo has a huge ego and wont hesitate to show ggg the middle finger like he did on the past to much bigger stars...

So I'm watching this video and Abel says that Canelo has been given another deadline, do you think the fight happens or will Canelo drop the belt or will the WBC find another way to let him keep the belt? you need to add another very probable scenario: no agreement reached, ggg steps aside again...

The "new" deadline, huh. What happened to the last one? And why does it matter really? Canelo will do what Canelo wants to do. GGG can force the belt, but he can't force the fight which is what he and every fan wants to see. I really can't see it happening this year, not with Canelo eyeing the Pacquiao-Bradley winner (I know, I know). I hate to say this but a part of me wants Khan to win so I can witness the f*ckery that ensues. But the WBC can force the fight if they really wanted to, he is holding their belt, if he can't or won't defend it, then they need to take it off of him.

What contractual duties have the WBC not upheld? They've presented GGG with the opportunity to negotiate a fight with the champion and every single time he's agreed to delay the fight. They should be more concerned about Heiland suing because he hasn't gotten his opportunity to fight for an eliminator. Yeah, fair enough. If GGG and Canelo are actually negotiating with the intention to fight, then that's fine. Considering Canelo is fighting Khan, I don't see September happening - in which case the WBC should uphold their rules (no CW in a mando, the pre-decided split) and go to purse bid, or strip Canelo. They should, for example, as the governing body, say "if you haven't decided on a weight or split (by, say May 22nd), we're going to take it to purse bid at 160 at 65 - 35, and if you don't like it, we'll strip you."

Ah, so we've already established a date for the next "step aside" agreement discussions?

The pressure is on Canelo. If GGG wants to consent to a 157-158 CW then that's fine but being the mandatory he doesn't have to bend. I'm more interested in seeing the WBC actually taking action and stripping Canelo if he doesn't come off of his 155lb weight enforcement for MW opponents.

I believe the fight will happen @ 157-158, I cant wait for canela to activate her diva mode and hopefully some true mexican will throw a rotten egg or tomato to this diva

As there's an agreement, the WBC are screwed. Essentially, an agreement in legal terms is a contract. There are offers with subsequent conditions, or offers with precedential conditions. For example if I say 'I will give you my umbrella if it rains tomorrow', that is a verbal contract, legally, with a condition precedent. On the other hand 'so long as it rains, I will lend you my umbrella' is a condition subsequent. The WBC, Hoya and Loeffler have agreed to an interim bout before continuing negotiation for a September mandatory fight. This is a condition precedent ('I will fight you if we have an interim fight'), if this is in writing, it becomes even more difficult to avoid the contractual duties required to avoid a breach of contract. The WBC were last sued in 1997 by Rocchiagiani for refusing to uphold their contract. The court found in the plaintiff's favour for $31 million. This bankrupted the WBC who had to negotiate an out of court settlement. As of 2007, they were still struggling to pay the plaintiff $1.2 million annually. The WBC should be scared of legal action if they continue to shirk their contractual duties of allowing the mandatory opponent a shot against the champ. That's literally the point of governing bodies. The moment they fail to uphold their rules, they can be (and should be) sued. I imagine that either this fight will happen, or Canelo vacates. If he vacates, he'll be remembered as a duck, and probably have to face GGG anyway when he moves up in a year or two. If the fight happens, the WBCs own rules specify a 65-35 split (plus an extra 10 for other belts held, so 55-45), and that forced CWs aren't allowed. If the WBC don't uphold those rules, they can be sued, but there's nothing stopping the parties from negotiating this higher, lower, or adding CWs - the other party just need not accept.

unless canelo agrees to 157/158+ then they should push to have him stripped as soon as possible. he will inevitably outgrow 155 soon, so either he will be forced to fight golovkin on golovkin's turf or will get himself beaten by some random welter due to being drained. jacobs and saunders should be the top targets for GGG and K2 now That's what I'm hoping for. Canelo won't go over 155. GGG won't go lower than 160. They need to at least try to meet halfway. If GGG gets the belt, Canelo just moves back down to JMW or keeps fighting catchweight fights at 155. GGG continues to fight no names and mandatories, while Canelo continues fighting Welterweights. This fight needs to happen.