Hopefully this awesome giants will carry boxing and bring more fans after May-pac retired.
C'mon ortiz lose 10 more pounds and you will be unstoppable, i'm rooting for you!!!
dont you guys think Ortiz kinda remind us of berbick??
Ortiz/Jennings is exactly what boxing should be. Two guys using their skill to actually fight, rather than their size to cheat. Damn good fight and I'm looking forward to both of their next fights.
Wilder is another exciting fighter, Fury is usually exciting but got sucked into the black hole of cheating and boredom that is Wlad. If nothing else we'll get some actual fights now instead of Wlad cheating everyone, and that's a good thing.
characters.
that's the only reason why heavyweight matters.
because there's a character that is holding a belt. it helps a lot if the character is white. the more characters the sport has the better the sport is. boxing is lacking in the crazy character department right now.
not enough crazy nutjobs with entertaining personalities.
I don't think it really matters if they're white or not. Personalities comes in all shapes and sizes. I love that Fury's such a wild man though, and his gypsy background gives us something different from the usual street hoodlums and ex-cons that traditionally made up the more colourful characters in the sport's history. It also helps that he's so articulate and knowledgeable. I think his time at the top is only going to benefit the division in all sorts of ways.
Aside from Fury you've got the loudmouth Wilder and the cool but utterly intimidating King Kong Ortiz. Lots of other fiery personalities as well, Whyte, Szpilka, Chisora etc.
as much as we hate wlad, half his opp from the last 10years knocks out wilder! there is no bigger fraud than wilder as champ in boxing....somebody quote me on that!
No one will wanna fight him. Wilder is about to say now: "can he pass the test?"
He's with golden boy anyway fight will never happen. He's in line for the wba
A division is only as good as the fights that are made in it. There are tons of good prospects coming up at the moment, and lots of good solid action fighters in the top ten/fifteen, but unless they fight each other it's all meaningless. Thank god for fighters like Jennings, Mansour, Thompson etc, and hopefully Wilder grows a pair of balls in 2016 and starts acting like the champion he's supposed to be.
For what it's worth, some great fights I'd like to see in the near future:
Fury vs Ortiz
Ortiz vs Takam
Takam vs Jennings
Jennings vs Povetkin
Povetkin vs Wilder
Wilder vs Parker
Parker vs Joshua
Joshua vs Ortiz
Scott vs Mansour
Helenius vs Pulev
Pulev vs Chisora
Fury vs Wilder
Wilder vs Jennings
If even half those fights get made I'd be a happy man.
Division is loaded, no doubt. But not just the top, even the top 20-30. The problem is they won't/ don't fight each other.
Look at the undefeated heavys (and most untested/ protected)
Tyson Fury
Deontay Wilder
Glazkov
Erkan Teper
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Lucas Browne
Andy Ruiz
Robert Helenius
Charles Martin
Gerald Washington
Dominic Breazeale
Hughie Fury
Luis Ortiz
Trevor Bryan
Trey Lippe (Morrison's son, training with Roach)
As you can see, there is a lot of talent. Too bad the age we live in, the best hardly ever fight the best. Otherwise, we would get a lot of good match ups.
Until they do fight, the division will not be that exciting.
I think we are starting to get good matchups. Joshua-Whyte was a good matchup and so was Ortiz-Jennings. In January we have Wilder-Szpilka, Mansour-Breazele and Glazkov-Martin. I think in the next several years we're gonna see some quality matchups and some classic battles.
Division is loaded, no doubt. But not just the top, even the top 20-30. The problem is they won't/ don't fight each other.
Look at the undefeated heavys (and most untested/ protected)
Tyson Fury
Deontay Wilder
Glazkov
Erkan Teper
Anthony Joshua
Joseph Parker
Lucas Browne
Andy Ruiz
Robert Helenius
Charles Martin
Gerald Washington
Dominic Breazeale
Hughie Fury
Luis Ortiz
Trevor Bryan
Trey Lippe (Morrison's son, training with Roach)
As you can see, there is a lot of talent. Too bad the age we live in, the best hardly ever fight the best. Otherwise, we would get a lot of good match ups.
Until they do fight, the division will not be that exciting.
He actually fights a bit like Corrie Sanders. Counterpunching southpaw big left, sweet upper cut and hook. pretty fast hands when he wants to. Hopefully, in better shape.
Ortiz has a huge frame but is surprisingly nimble on his feet. He never looked like he was tired either.
Hopefully this awesome giants will carry boxing and bring more fans after May-pac retired.
C'mon ortiz lose 10 more pounds and you will be unstoppable, i'm rooting for you!!!
dont you guys think Ortiz kinda remind us of berbick??
I guess he looks kinda like Trevor Berbick but their styles are vastly different.
Hopefully this awesome giants will carry boxing and bring more fans after May-pac retired.
C'mon ortiz lose 10 more pounds and you will be unstoppable, i'm rooting for you!!!
dont you guys think Ortiz kinda remind us of berbick??
he looks exactly like berbick.
Hopefully this awesome giants will carry boxing and bring more fans after May-pac retired.
C'mon ortiz lose 10 more pounds and you will be unstoppable, i'm rooting for you!!!
dont you guys think Ortiz kinda remind us of berbick??
Should have been like this years ago than people would have forgot of the Mayweather vs Pacquaio sham fight
We shall see, I'd be happy If what you say is true regardless of how much I like Wladimir I'd be happy to see the heavyweight division get its attention even at the cost of it being at not recognizing a great champion in Wlad.
i love wlad too but is time too say goodbye,To be honest this is my first time seeing ortiz, at first i though i see fat trevor berbick :lol1:
the fight start i see Ortiz have really nice jab and decent footwork but always pushing jenning on the inside, i thought why...? is he not good on the inside? the ref finally warn him and jenning get more active start giving him some trouble then Ortiz get on his bicycle (lovely...) but still wont let go his hand in phonebooth.
overall it was great finding, i almost missed this fight i was watching miss america in other channel go to the store next door to buy cigarrete and saw this fight on their tv. pretty glad i smoke
No i believe it specially if the two americans wilder and Ortiz (though he is cuban-american) can win it. american public will always love their's big giant champions. other than that there are a lot good exciting fight to be made just hope the boxer deliver it like tonight.
we can see eventhough jenning lose he has great desire in tonight fight, i feel for him and i think a lot of fans feel it too. we need more of this
We shall see, I'd be happy If what you say is true regardless of how much I like Wladimir I'd be happy to see the heavyweight division get its attention even at the cost of it being at not recognizing a great champion in Wlad.
Somehow I doubt because Wlad loses his belt that it will mean the heavyweight divisions stock will climb, the guys who will likely be champion If they face Fury i.e. Pulev, Povetkin, Ortiz and so on wont bring the attention that you'd expect.
No i believe it specially if the two americans wilder and Ortiz (though he is cuban-american) can win it. american public will always love their's big giant champions. other than that there are a lot good exciting fight to be made just hope the boxer deliver it like tonight.
we can see eventhough jenning lose he has great desire in tonight fight, i feel for him and i think a lot of fans feel it too. we need more of this