Jacobs-Quillin only draws 267,000 viewers??? ouch...

US Boxing is dying which shows that GGG's stable numbers are amazing. UK is the new capitol of Boxing.

That's too bad, it was a good fight on paper. and I actually prefer bouts on hbo/sho as opposed to network cable with commercials and cornier commentary and such. Yes football. The king of American sports. Pac-12 Championship, Big 12 Championship, ACC Championship and Mountain West Championship to compete with. I remember saying the same thing about GGG PPV. That baseball playoffs will crush it and many laughed at me and look at that it demolished it. football, eh, maybe, but who the f*ck watches baseball and boxing? I don't think there's a great cross-correlation there. It's like the least active sport and a combat sport. Anyhow, GGG numbers were ppv, hardly the same thing. On another note, I never get why fighters are sent out to pitch for photos...

Yes, ratings typically increase as a fight progresses. Fights usually earn their highest ratings over the last half of the fight. Now I don't believe the ratings were going to turn out much better, but high 400s/low 500s probably would have been achieved had the fight lasted more than half a round. I will say this though, Showtime boxing is struggling. They did 200s for DeGale-Bute and now 300s for Jacobs-Quillin. These are porous numbers. I think Garcia-Salka even did 800s. I'm not sure why the HBO fanboys are rejoicing though. I mean isn't this the type of fight you wanted Haymon to make? Two top 5 MWs in their primes engaging in an exciting, albeit abbreviated, fight? Why rejoice that it did bad numbers? you know why...

I doubt it will. Boxing isn't really watched at the start of the year. Expect Showtime to continue to be on their knees to Al to throw em some favors.

Showtime dead. Imma like to pay thanks to Al. Knowutimsayin? If Wilder/Szpilka does less than a million, flags should be flying. Not that they shouldn't already, but he was their only good piece of T.V last year that people watched... what happens if he doesn't?

Showtime dead. Imma like to pay thanks to Al. Knowutimsayin?

How is this a deflection? never said these numbers were good but i understand why they are so bad. Shoot i even expected less Like i said in the post above this one, many of you for some reason dont watch other sports or dont know that when big games are going to be on that this sport will suffer. how is it not deflecting :lol1:? you brought up golovkin's ppv numbers you deflected from quillin and jacob's poor showing and onto golovkin's modest ppv figures.

Showtime is struggling No doubt. With the PBC, I think a good chunk of the boxing fans who had Showtime dumped it because most of the good fights that would have gone to Showtime were elsewhere. Showtime can rebuild, but they better get on it.

You can blame the first fight for that , they killed the casual

Whatever dude. Schaeffer says they need to let Showtime bid on the fight when he knows that legally impossible and your desperate ass wants to call that a duck, lol. Whatever helps you sleep... K2 sent an offer after Schaefer n Quillin were running their mouth and all of a sudden Schaefer wanted to talk about the networks trading fighters. Quillin didn't say sh*t.

What happens now is that they need fights for next year or continue to suffer. Haymon will probably let more fighters on....but if he needs a big push too, maybe not I also doubt anything can be worked with HBO Hbo wants Haymon gone, they never use to spend this kind of money on purse fees. Of not for Haymon driving up the prices, GGG/Lemiuex wouldn't of even been ppv. Making it ppv was the only way they could afford to do it. That event was never expected to make big $, they wanted to cover the cost. Headliners on HBO Boxing getting 2 mill a fight now when 1 mill use to be more than enough, that's the Haymon effect. And consequence, is we get less fights on HBO.

What happens now is that they need fights for next year or continue to suffer. Haymon will probably let more fighters on....but if he needs a big push too, maybe not I also doubt anything can be worked with HBO

wow...showtime paid 2.4 million to get these crap numbers?! Main event fighters earned $3 million!? Meanwhile golovkin HBO cards get gets 6 times the viewers at a lower fee and lower purses. Showtime subscriptions are about 70% of the HBO so of course viewership will be lower but you would think this fight could have pulled closer to 1 million than 0!

What a complete bomb! I knew it.... Al's plan to destroy Showtime is one step closer. I mean, look at the past 2 weeks... combined they're a little over half what a fight in Germany did... ridiculous! they did less than an afternoon showing... combined... hell, they did less than the replay of the afternoon showing combined... that's horrible, outright horrible. Also notice how they still haven't released last weeks numbers and not this week's either...t he Nielsen numbers are out, but these are just so terrifyingly low, that they don't bother 3.5 million plus, heavy push, All Access, promoting for months.... all for jack.

See to be honest the fans who'd rather watch football over this fight are the problem, absolute mugs how could you not watch this it was a great fight and a fairly solid undercard that was on display.

Main Events took a lesser talented fighter in Curtis Stevens and kept him busy on NBC sports, getting him a fight with Golovkin. To this day that's Golovkin's highest rated fight. Stevens/Golovkin sh*ts all over Jacobs/Quillin with 1.4mill viewers and sold-out MSG Theater at 4,600. I'm not sure if Jacobs/Quillin actually sold 6,000. So Curtis Stevens sells now? Lol get the hell outta here

Maybe these numbers were just an unlucky anomaly that doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things.. But I think it's time to ask the question: is Haymon hurting boxing by deluding the product and over-saturating the market with boxing that people just don't want to watch?

They are bad numbers. There is no denying that. The worst part is the pay fighters are getting for low ratings. The sport has shrinking numbers over here. Purses are getting larger and eventually the money well will dry up. Where that leaves us, the fans, is eventually less fights to watch down the road because the cable giants will just say to hell with it if they see no subscriber interest. That is the reality. There is no reason to defend or gloat about those numbers, as they effect every fan, no matter where you align yourself. The money part is fine for Haymon... for now. Now these guys have an inflated self worth and fights won't be made unless they get what they're worth...which is way more than they're actually worth. These numbers don't really matter to Haymon IMO, just uses Showtime to have them pay for fights then take them back to the timeslots. They didn't have any fights for months and got them to pay millions out the ass these past 2 weeks. I kind of expect a repeat of last year with 1-2 fights on Showime to start the year then prospects till the end of the year. Showtime going down the shitter at this rate, and they were once crushing showtime in fights... until 2014 happened

Shawn Porter. Agreed.... Porter is hungry for sure He also never really got the fight the bum of the month treatment from Haymon. He wasn't spoiled.

This is also the reason IMO, none of them develop. You already paid them top dollar to fight bums, WTF are they going to work n getting better for? It really is astonishing how few of his guys get any better from when we first see them. In Jacobs defense I do think he's one of the few who wants bigger and better things, and is willing to work for it. Shawn Porter.