So was the new improved Cotto just smoke a mirrors?

http://i.imgur.com/ZlkhDwm.png?1 now this was funny...lol

After finally watching Cotto against a good, in shape, skilled opponent like Canelo, I can safely claim his stint with Roach hasn't been smoke and mirrors completely. I used to think the ¨rejuvenated under Roach¨ Cotto was a total fraud, who had created the illusion of being better than he actually was by being carefully matched, against a bum like Delvin Rodriguez, the legless corpse of Sergio Martinez and a zombified, weight drained Geale But truth is, he showed in the best shape of his career for the Canelo match and was quite competitive there. He moved more than ever in this match and didn't gas in the later rounds like he usually does, he showed good skills with his stick and move strategy (eventhough it wasn't enough). and thanks to that he managed to go the distance and steal some rounds. The old Cotto, who was prone to brawling and walking to his opponent would have gotten KTFO. It was pretty clear he couldn't outbrawl Canelo at all, ginger was too big, too strong, too sharp with those counters. Cotto only tried to brawl in round 8 and it backfired terribly. but despite being vastly outmatched in power, toughness and counterpunching skills, Cotto still made it a close fight In short, eventhough he lost to Canelo, I think Cotto has truly improved under Roach in some aspects, as hes still a threat to anyone (not named Lara) at 154. he doesn't belong at MW

Cotto should have fought his career as a southpaw. He has the same limitation as Oscar has had....neither has a right hand. Roach is is horrible trainer. Freddie has all his fighters fighting with that in and out style, rather than teaching them technique. Also, that stupidness that Cotto does putting his right gloves over the left side of his face to block punches annoys the hell out of me. He should be slipping and setting up counters. This. It looks bad, even if he's blocking the punches, looks like he's cowering.

Cotto was too small for Canelo. Whether it was all smoke and mirrors remains to be seen. I'd like to see Cotto fight some solid opposition at 154... It'd be amazing if Khan vs. Cotto happens at 154. Size cant be used as an excuse can it?? Mayweather is smaller then Cotto and Canelo

Cotto was too small for Canelo. Whether it was all smoke and mirrors remains to be seen. I'd like to see Cotto fight some solid opposition at 154... It'd be amazing if Khan vs. Cotto happens at 154. You don't see the irony in this?

Cotto was too small for Canelo. Whether it was all smoke and mirrors remains to be seen. I'd like to see Cotto fight some solid opposition at 154... It'd be amazing if Khan vs. Cotto happens at 154. Pretty much this. Cotto actually looked good to me, didn't gas or anything. I'd like to see Cotto-Lara but obviously boxing politics would prevent that.

He looked slow,weak and threw the same combo's over and over again last night. I was rooting for him and picked him to win,but honestly he looked pretty bad last night. At times Canelo was even playing with him and looked bored at times. Cotto's straight right was doing some good damage and I dont know why he stopped using it, and his left hook did not seem to be landing with authority. I felt like he was just working the mitts. He did not used angles like I was hopping he was going to do. Now, Canelo is on his prime, had a 20lb advantage and we know Cotto is passed his prime, with 20 years of boxing and some hard wars with some serious scar tissue damage...and the younger lion with this "extraordinary" power could not stop or seriously hurt #WarCotto. Also, the HBO team was a disgrace to boxing journalism, wow!! Congrats to Canelo, he did win the fight but honestly, the cards were a joke.

Cotto was too small for Canelo. Whether it was all smoke and mirrors remains to be seen. I'd like to see Cotto fight some solid opposition at 154... It'd be amazing if Khan vs. Cotto happens at 154.

Cotto is a good fighter, a tough opponent for anyone, but never quite got over that hump. Sure, he beat Martinez, but it was just a "at the right time" type of a win. I will consistently say this: Freddie Roach is a good matchmaker and good at stipulation fight conditions that benefit his fighters. It seems as if nearly all the big fights Freddie Roach is a part of have a catch-weight stipulation. I think he's overrated as a trainer.

If anything he looked better physically since he joined Roach. But I guess most of that credit goest to his s&c coach.

I had Cotto winning. I posted on the master thread that he won 3 rounds. Corrections, i meant 7-5. Closed fight. Cotto did not have the power to hurt Canelo but Cotto did good. HBO crew was favoring Canelo from the start. Even When Cotto was doing good, HBO was down grading it and praising Cotto.

He looked slow,weak and threw the same combo's over and over again last night. I was rooting for him and picked him to win,but honestly he looked pretty bad last night. At times Canelo was even playing with him and looked bored at times. Cotto should have fought his career as a southpaw. He has the same limitation as Oscar has had....neither has a right hand. Roach is is horrible trainer. Freddie has all his fighters fighting with that in and out style, rather than teaching them technique. Also, that stupidness that Cotto does putting his right gloves over the left side of his face to block punches annoys the hell out of me. He should be slipping and setting up counters.

I thought Cotto did fine personally. :dunno: His power was and continues to be overrated. lol You had Cotto winning doe ? :dunno:

I thought Cotto did fine personally. :dunno: His power was and continues to be overrated. Definitely. I've seen enough of his power now. He's definitely not a concussive puncher.

His (mostly weak) opposition definitely flattered him. But I think what's more smoke and mirrors is his alleged "boxing skills". Cotto is not a good boxer or counter puncher IMO. He's shown that time and time again, I'll admit he's not as usless as he used to be on the back foot like he was 2007-2010, but he's still not a good boxer at all. I remember our discussion pre fight Larry where we were talking about who's the better counter puncher. IMO it was clearly Canelo and that defintely showed on the night.

A pair of tits galore. and those were real.

No, Canelo is just 10 years younger, naturally much bigger, and in his prime. Doesn't hurt that Canelo happens to be a really good fighter. Wtf....

WTF was Cottos wife wearing? :boobies: A pair of tits galore.

Wasnt canelo supposed to beat the shiiit outta him, make him take knees and ko him??? :dunno: i sent you a pm with your new avi and sig...

Wasnt canelo supposed to beat the shiiit outta him, make him take knees and ko him??? :dunno: Wasnt he supposed to beat Canelo? :lame: