Another myth: Mayweather moving up five divisions while GGG not willing to moveup one

at 24 Floyd was at 130 and fighting Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernendez at 24 GGG was at 160..you could have stopped there...dumbass I think he meant gg amateur weight . Which was less than 160

at 24 Floyd was at 130 and fighting Jesus Chavez and Carlos Hernendez at 24 GGG was at 160..you could have stopped there...dumbass

it's hilarious to me how this retard is counting golovkin's amateur weight but doesn't count mayweather's. The guy started at 106lbs as an amateur. So, ts, can you do the math and tell us how many weight classes that is for mayweather now? Since we're counting amateur weights too and all. Edit: These bumps are hilarious. this is bottom of the barrel sad

Yeah Mayweather fought P4P top 10 and future HOF "bums" :D Floyd fights smaller guys like jmm and PAC. Drains guys who are bigger. Avoids toughest tests if he can at all help it like Thurman and brook in uk

GGG fights bums people keep saying. So Floyd fights bums as well. damn look at this philosopher right here strait out the mma caves.

GGG fights bums people keep saying. So Floyd fights bums as well.

Mayweather moved up because he couldn't make weight and then says he could have made 140 for a few years. :rofl: So he moved up to 147 and 154 when he didn't need to and could make the lower weight. :dunce: Not from 140, from 130, and 135. But he also showed he couldn't make much below 147 since coming back, at 32.

Mayweather moved up because he couldn't make past weights! How stupid do you need to be to not understand this? His first few years at welter he could get back to 140 but his last 4 to 5 would have been tough. I don't know why fans think it's so easy to loose weight and be strong I guess it's because they have no clue what it takes to be a pro boxer. If GGG couldn't make 160 comfortably he'd have to move up. Why is this so hard to understand? What athlete weighs what he weighed when 22 years old when he's 34 years old? Ray They know. They just like being dishonest.

If you took more than 30 seconds to type this out, you have no filter.

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I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here. Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions." 1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions. He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count: 130->135 = 1 move 135->140 = 2 move 140->147 = 3 move 147->154 = 4 move So he moved up 4 times, not 5. Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time. 2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions. 147->154 = 1 move 154->160 = 2 move So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154. 3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter. 4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons: a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8. b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up) and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone. 6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather. 7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division. http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/154/912/berneydidnotread.gif http://i.imgur.com/oM1hyvz.gif

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here. Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions." 1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions. He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count: 130->135 = 1 move 135->140 = 2 move 140->147 = 3 move 147->154 = 4 move So he moved up 4 times, not 5. Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time. 2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions. 147->154 = 1 move 154->160 = 2 move So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154. 3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter. 4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons: a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8. b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up) and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone. 6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather. 7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division. :hail::hail::hail::hail:

Dude's making it his goal to bump a post from a year ago every 3 months. Say one thing for the Golovkin haters, they're absolutely obsessed.Yikes. It's worse than I thought. Aldo, who supposedly has me ignored, decided to both redK this post and misspell a curse word in his comments.

You are LITERALLY, LITERALLY embarrassing GGG fans.

Mayweather moved up because he couldn't make past weights! How stupid do you need to be to not understand this? His first few years at welter he could get back to 140 but his last 4 to 5 would have been tough. I don't know why fans think it's so easy to loose weight and be strong I guess it's because they have no clue what it takes to be a pro boxer. If GGG couldn't make 160 comfortably he'd have to move up. Why is this so hard to understand? What athlete weighs what he weighed when 22 years old when he's 34 years old? Ray

Might be the dumbest poster in this forum! Don't start another thread Op.

This is down right pathetic Your definition of 'debunk' is very loose. You basically just say 'seems awfully suspicious that Mayweather is only 150lbs in the ring' when it isn't suspicious at all. How many fighters at WW have a longer reach than Floyd Mayweather? It's pretty uncommon. Anyway, we don't have 'reach classes', we have weight classes. Floyd was often not the bigger man in terms of weight. Even with your added context, you still admit that Floyd moved up more weight classes. And further, every time he did so he fought legitimate fighters at those new weight classes. You haven't seemed to prove that GGG has done that though. Or that he's taken any risks, which is really the point people are bringing up when they point out how many divisions he's moved. It's hilarious to me how this retard is counting Golovkin's AMATEUR weight but doesn't count Mayweather's. The guy started at 106lbs as an amateur. So, TS, can you do the math and tell us how many weight classes that is for Mayweather now? Since we're counting amateur weights too and all. EDIT: These bumps are hilarious.

Pacquiao had no amateur career. When Floyd started amateurs he started in the same weight class Pacquiao started in as a pro. Your argument in the OP is that Golovkin has moved up, but counting his amateur career. Actually that's not true. He moved to Manila at 14 to start as an amateur, and fought over 60 amateur bouts before turning pro less than 2 years later. It used to say this in his TR bio but it does not anymore :-/. Here is one source that briefly mentions it: http://www.express.co.uk/sport/boxing/573548/Manny-Pacquiao-Floyd-Mayweather-Jr-boxing

I have already debunked the myth that says that Mayweather is outweighed by 10-20 pounds each fight. See here. Lets proceed with the next one: "Floyd took risks and moved up five divisions." 1) Mayweather did not move up five divisions. He started professionally at 130. The maximum division he fought at was 154. Lets count: 130->135 = 1 move 135->140 = 2 move 140->147 = 3 move 147->154 = 4 move So he moved up 4 times, not 5. Also, he became professional at 19 years old. So he didn't just move up, he grown up most of the time. 2) When Golovkin was 19 years old, he was fighting in the amateurs as a welterweight. He turned pro very late, at 24 years old. If we make the same comparison, he grown up two divisions. 147->154 = 1 move 154->160 = 2 move So he has moved up two times. I think that sometime in the future he will move up for a few fights at 168, like Mayweather did at 154. 3) I've also heard: "Even Ward moved up one division, he started at 160". Ward started at 160 when he was 20 years old in 2004. When he was 24, he was already a 168 fighter. 4) Fighters from the smaller divisions tend to be able to move up more divisions easily for two reasons: a) The divisions are separated by 4 or 5 pounds instead of 7 or 8. b) The fighters in the small divisions train differently, they are usually more skinny, and they still have margin for winning easy weight by changing the training method. The fighters in the bigger weights have no chance of naturally moving up more than one division. The only thing they can do is take steroids to grow muscle (like Roy Jones did to be able to move up) and 5) You don't need to move up to prove you're great. Andre Ward can stay at 168 and I'll never criticize him for that. There's no need to criticize a fighter just because of jealousy. Ward had his moment in 2011-2012. Golovkin is having his moment now, let the guy be. He is beating anyone, winning all rounds, and KOing everyone. 6) If moving up in weight is what makes you great, then Pacquiao (moved up seven times) and DLH (moved up five times) are greater than Mayweather. 7) There's a pattern in 99% of his fights. He's the taller guy or the guy with more reach. He never fights being outsized. Being outsized is one of the risks of boxing, but he never takes that risk. He only did it a few times in all his career. He CAN make 160, but he knows it means losing the size advantage. Other fighters with less height than him, such as Cotto or Duran, have fought in the 160 division. Your definition of 'debunk' is very loose. You basically just say 'seems awfully suspicious that Mayweather is only 150lbs in the ring' when it isn't suspicious at all. How many fighters at WW have a longer reach than Floyd Mayweather? It's pretty uncommon. Anyway, we don't have 'reach classes', we have weight classes. Floyd was often not the bigger man in terms of weight. Even with your added context, you still admit that Floyd moved up more weight classes. And further, every time he did so he fought legitimate fighters at those new weight classes. You haven't seemed to prove that GGG has done that though. Or that he's taken any risks, which is really the point people are bringing up when they point out how many divisions he's moved.

GGG is not a big middleweight people, hes an averaged sized middleweight and I bet Canelo is actually the bigger man Why is it a requirement that GGG goes up to 168lbs to challenge Ward? Ward moved up because he was struggling to make the SMW limit, hes also a tall guy at 6'1 so his capacity to move up weightclasses is more than GGG whos only what 5'10-5'11? GGG doesnt struggle to make the MW limit and looked chubby in his last fight against Wade. GGG needs to fight the best in his division, he hasnt done that yet. He has no business fighting ward because he hasnt actually proved hes the best in the MW division yet, no matter how many people say otherwise. Because he keeps crying and bittching that no one wants to fight him. When others move up for the same reason