There are no clear cut requirements for the Hall of Fame, but in your opionion if Ward retired right now, do you think he should be inducted in the Hall of Fame.
Andre Ward is a shoe in for the Hall of Fame but he is just not quite an all time great at this time. He needs more bouts, more notable names on his resume and take more risks in order to be considered one the greatest to have ever graced a professional boxing ring.
Yes of course... How can he not be..
Gold medalist
Super six winner
Wins over froch, abraham, Kessler, dawson, bika,
Widely regarded as the best fighter of his era not named floyd
Career issues has hindered him from becoming a huge superstar like floyd, manny, hopkins but Ward is clearly a hall of famer, and not even debatable
It's totally debatable. He's lucky Froch put in all that work and will likely end up in the HOF, else Ward would have zero HOF scalps. As is, has 2 notable wins in Froch and Kessler who were not p4p or anything. The rest is GGG caliber comp
Bika went on to win titles and was a world class ranked guy for a decade.. It's a very solid win, and most fighters best win on 95% of guys resumes..
His wife is hot
Bika? Oh...well he's in.
Bika went on to win titles and was a world class ranked guy for a decade.. It's a very solid win, and most fighters best win on 95% of guys resumes..
Yes of course... How can he not be..
Gold medalist
Super six winner
Wins over froch, abraham, Kessler, dawson, bika,
Widely regarded as the best fighter of his era not named floyd
Career issues has hindered him from becoming a huge superstar like floyd, manny, hopkins but Ward is clearly a hall of famer, and not even debatable
Bika? Oh...well he's in.
Yes of course... How can he not be..
Gold medalist
Super six winner
Wins over froch, abraham, Kessler, dawson, bika,
Widely regarded as the best fighter of his era not named floyd
Career issues has hindered him from becoming a huge superstar like floyd, manny, hopkins but Ward is clearly a hall of famer, and not even debatable
If he's not a worthy future Hall of Fame candidate then why he is currently ranked so high among all the top P4P lists at no. 2 on most of them and at no. 1 on others?
Please explain to me that.
Wait, Boxrec has GGG at #2 and Ward at #19, that means GGG is over 9 times as good as Ward.
Balboa beat undefeated ATG Apollo Creed and fought at world title level even longer than Bernard Hopkins. Not sure what else people want from the guy tbh.
lmaoooooo!!!
If he's not a worthy future Hall of Fame candidate then why he is currently ranked so high among all the top P4P lists at no. 2 on most of them and at no. 1 on others?
Please explain to me that.
There are no clear cut requirements for the Hall of Fame, but in your opionion if Ward retired right now, do you think he should be inducted in the Hall of Fame.
Nope. And there are some requirements, mos tof them to do with american sports media story telling, so he'd get in but not on my judgement.
Of course you'd like to see him do more, but in my opinion he is a borderline hof'er. In actuality, however, there is absolutely no way Andre Ward would not be in the Hall of Fame and they'd probably let him in on the first ballot.
The only way he gets in right now is if he dies in a tragic accident and he gets in as a footnote somewhere. Unless they have a category for most losing court cases or longest time sitting on ass doing nothing.
If he wants to get in the HoF, he has to defeat Golovkin, Kovalev and Stevenson, all by stoppage in neutral arenas, not in Oakland. And he has to do this in less than 18 months.
OR he can choose to unify all the titles at SMW. Or at LHW by defeating Kovalev and Stevenson. In my book, becoming the UNDISPUTED CHAMPION OF THE WORLD in any weight division gets you into the HoF automatically.
Don't hall of famers have to have a following, people actually have to know how they are? Ward beat two decent fighters once upon a time, I think he has to do more.
Based on his accomplishment as a pro, he should not be. He cleaned out the 168lbs but he has not beaten any HOF caliber opponent. That is why he should have sought more challenges after the super 6. But considering his whole boxing career, why not? He has a very good run.
His win over an arguable top 10-15 P4P fighter in his prime in Froch was the sealing point, not the actual ticket to get him to the HOF. I mentioned in my other post in this thread that his combination of titles/medal, record, and P4P status gets him into consideration but that his win over Froch is what will tip most people over to voting him in.
Got it. Apologies.