* Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
* Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
* Has never defeated a current world champion
* Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent
This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
He's got some intangibles in that he comes to fight and he has a chin. But the big thing about him is that every once in a while a fighter comes in with natural mechanics. His short shots are thudding and when he unloads and connects forget it, things break. He's an ok boxer, has a good chin, he brings it, but the big thing is he hits hard effortlessly.
Must be a long ass month since he's been popular for quite some time now.
Not really it is pretty standard, and that is why he is getting the favorable treatment on the list also.
Which is honestly meaningless to someone like me.
If you're going to nit pick, Chocolatito Gonzales's opponents are not that impressive either.
Yaegashi, green Estrada and Niida are pretty good. But the rest? Well, he's very dominating and has been climbing weights (althought its easier at the lower weights) and getting titles.
Golovkin is one of the most dominating fighters in boxing right now. His competition isn't impressive. But neither are Kovalev's (Pascal is very limited and Hopkins was ancient), Rigondeaux's (only beat Donaire who's proven to be vastly limited aswell), etc, etc.
Andre Ward has, by far, the most impressive record in active fighters right now.
9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.
You expect people that your post isn't biased? :slap:
ALL WRONG, let me educate you,
1. He has defeated 3 not 1 former champs (Geale, Ouma, Murray)
2. He has defeated 4 undefeated fighters (go look at boxrec)
3. Murray was current unified champ if it wasn't for blatant robberies + NOW Lemiux then mando for Cotto-Canelo then Lee said "lets do it"
4. He has beaten 8 top10, forget about 20,30. These r top10. goto https://archive.org/web/ and use waybackmachine and check RING, espn, tbrb and boxrec rankings. go on get busy. He is literally cleaning out the whole division
5. He is only 6 defenses short of breaking B-hops record defenses which will take about 1.5 year
6. He has never even been down in about 400 fights let alone out.
7. Amateur record of 345-5 with gold in World championship and silver in Olympics.
8. And now, Boxers that ducked/ducking GGG
1---Felix sturm - wouldn't fight him for over 2 years when GGG was mandatory.
2---Peter quillin - said he will only fight for the may-pac kind of money, lol
3---Sergio martinez - "His promoter said that "no way I am putting him with this monster"
4---Hassaan ndam njikam -When Hassaan was WBO champ, he was ordered to a purse bid to face Golovkin no less than two times and he was a no show each time.
5---Miguel cotto - didn't want to fight him despite being mandatory.
6---Julio cesar chavez jr - Turned down 12mil offer by TR
7---Saul alvarez - Thinks that he is fighting at the weight-class of 155, as there is no such thing as a "155 weight-class" ,he is pretending to be not in the MW division because of GGG.There are 17 divisions just pick one, if you can't make 154 then you are a MW, simple.
8---Carl froch - After calling GGG out then when GGG accepted ,he backed down and now he is retired after making all the fuss, GGG was calling him for more than a year so no excuses for "retiring".
9---Andrea Ward. The diva of the 168lb division don't want to travel or meet the a-side GGG in a catchweight so he can become a good boy and get ktfo. Was willing to goto 160 for Floyd but when GGG said 164, Ward ducked.
10---Sebastian Sylvester - When Sylvester was IBF champ, he ducked GGG blatantly
11---Darren Barker - When Barker defeated Geale to become IBF champ, his promoter openly said that Barker will fight any1 except GGG
Case close..i still want GGG vs Ward at 168..i give edge to Ward..but going for 3g..ward is only boxer i think can go the distance vs 3G from 68 down. .that says a lot about 3G considering ward is probably #1 p4p in most ppl list.
1. He beat Ishida and Ouma both former world champions.
2. WTF does being unbeaten has to do with anything.
3. He is the world champion. Not his fault Pirog got injured or that Geale only to decided to fight after he lost his title in a close fight with Barker.
4. I guess you just wanted to make a fourth point because this one is just a flat out lie.
Pound for pound is who would win a fight if everyone was the same size, GGG pound for pound would most likely beat Kovalev, Wlad, and Most other fighters if they fought today. It's as simple as that.
I always wonder how him vs pirog would have went
* Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
* Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
* Has never defeated a current world champion
* Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent
This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
1. He beat Ishida and Ouma both former world champions.
2. WTF does being unbeaten has to do with anything.
3. He is the world champion. Not his fault Pirog got injured or that Geale only to decided to fight after he lost his title in a close fight with Barker.
4. I guess you just wanted to make a fourth point because this one is just a flat out lie.
Pound for pound is who would win a fight if everyone was the same size, GGG pound for pound would most likely beat Kovalev, Wlad, and Most other fighters if they fought today. It's as simple as that.
He is the flavor of the month really, but the list is pretty weak in general and has been pretty weak for a while.
P4P lists are really to get people talking and having a guy higher than they have rightfully earned always gets people talking, right or wrong. Nothing really wrong with speculation or trying to be ahead of the curve though.
* Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
* Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
* Has never defeated a current world champion
* Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent
This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
he knocks mfkas out every fight that's pretty much why but his resume isn't the best... resumes only matter for certain fighters
1. He is an undefeated KO artist. Journalists love KO artists.
2. He destroyed Murray, Rubio, Geale, Murray, Stevens, Rosado, Monroe Jr, Proksa, Adama, and Ishida.
You might be looking at that list and saying "Okay?"...Yeah, me too.
But what are you gonna do, the guy is the best Middleweight(MW is such a badass, exciting weight class, with crazy exciting match ups they say). And going up to 168 would be going up to a bad weight class, no good matches there, they say. Golovkin vs DeGale, Jack, Abraham, Dirrell, Ramirez would be bad match ups(Because they would be too 50-50 ish). Rather GGG vs Lemiuex, Lee, Saunders are better because we know they would end in a KO and we don't know who would win, they say.
Being a bad mutherfuker doenst mean **** p4p
You do understand that P4P lists don't mean SHIT, don't you? There is no belt or money involved in being number 1 on any of the dozens if not hundreds of P4P lists that exist on the Internet. Every boxing fan has their own P4P list. Your number 1 P4P may not even be on someone else's list at any position.
I would be a bad motherfuker if i faced the ****er who cleans my car or the fuker that cleans my clothes or even better a bum from the beach of cancun.
I bet you'd get knocked out by all three. Or even worse, you'd take a knee and quit.
* Has only defeated 1 former World Champion (Daniel Geale)
* Has Never defeated an unbeaten fighter ( i dont count a bum named makarov)
* Has never defeated a current world champion
* Has Never beaten a Top 20 or even top 30 ranked oppponent
This guy scky rockets to the top with that resume and Wladimir klitschko who has faced better opposition is below him??? i dont get it. What has this guy done to be P4P?
YDKSAB. He has destroyed 5 or 6 fighters who were top 10 ranked at the time they fought. He has been ducked by at least three Middleweight champions, one - Sturm - even paid a large sum of money to WBA so that he would not have to fight him. Martinez refused to fight him as did Cotto.
He had an amateur record of 345 - 5 and has a professional record of 33-0 with 30 KOs, including his last 20 fights ending in stoppages.
And you are asking why he is so highly regarded in the boxing world? Casual fans who only follow meaningless P4P lists should not comment on boxing forums. You only make yourselves look like idiots.
I think is the way he defeats his opponents, even the ones that haven't been stopped before, he does it, pretty easily.
But I also think he is a bit over the place he "should" be, for me is Top5 P4P, N°3, nope, not yet!
For me he is just below Kova!
Because anyone that isn't an idiot realizes how good he is. And "top opponents" and their teams have obviously realized this for years as they have gone above and beyond just to stay away from him.
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