Kell Brook vs Chris Van Heerden!

You would've rated Brook on par with Jan Zavcek if the boy from Bolton hadn't made it big and had Kell use his name to stay relevant. Probably the corniest fanboy on the forum. Brook has been ranked above Khan for ages, even before Porter. But he did happen to beat Porter for the title, which is better than anything Khan has done. Ever. Brook is simply the better fighter. He doesn't get knocked down by 37 year old lightweights and run all around the ring like a headless chicken, only to afterwards claim "Floyd is ducking". Yet there you are. :lol1: absolutely cringey.

No surprises here Hearn once again linking his fighters to big names when he knows fights cannot be made through the media, if brook or hearn had any will in fighting khan, they would actually try to talk to him instead of running their mouth on sky sports. Once again, he is fooling the public and retards like brook diggler lap it up on here The hearn promotional strategy: step 1: go to press with a name step 2: have no intention in making the fight and put road blocks in step 3: pick a bum and then accuse the big name of ducking brook is a fraud and everyone knows it, even brook diggler does, hence him being on damage control right away here Absolutely retarded post.

If Brook does fight Chris Van Heerden, I'll be disappointed. Until then, I'll just take it as Khan talking completely out of his arse. Not much more needs to be taken from the thread than this.

- and half? Anyways, I was responding to your "stock plummeting" remark. -Kell is a big name, but Khan is bigger between the two both in UK/World. -Similarly being known on a wider scale & being paid handsomely are mutually exclusive. Some guys own their own promotion and deal with networks directly like Sturm, yet many may not know him (casual). - Being a favorite and being big name are also mutually exclusive. Khan is a big name, but not a favorite necessarily. Also underdogs become favorite cuz they're underdogs as another example. -Brook isn't getting big $ at least based on Porter, but again M.Hatton fight was bigger, but even that would be how much? That is why it is wise to wait till next summer and make it bigger. I mean it is still big, but not the Amir Khan money. - I just asked purse figures for Hatton-Senchenko. Not a hard question. This is your ploy of becoming pedantic and play the "huh? wah? who?" routine when you feel like bailing out. Shouldn't have brought in Brook to begin with. And Dirk is out for the count.

- and half? Anyways, I was responding to your "stock plummeting" remark. -Kell is a big name, but Khan is bigger between the two both in UK/World. -Similarly being known on a wider scale & being paid handsomely are mutually exclusive. Some guys own their own promotion and deal with networks directly like Sturm, yet many may not know him (casual). - Being a favorite and being big name are also mutually exclusive. Khan is a big name, but not a favorite necessarily. Also underdogs become favorite cuz they're underdogs as another example. -Brook isn't getting big $ at least based on Porter, but again M.Hatton fight was bigger, but even that would be how much? That is why it is wise to wait till next summer and make it bigger. I mean it is still big, but not the Amir Khan money. - I just asked purse figures for Hatton-Senchenko. Not a hard question. This is your ploy of becoming pedantic and play the "huh? wah? who?" routine when you feel like bailing out. Shouldn't have brought in Brook to begin with. Why would I know or care what the purse figures for Hatton-Senchenko were? What does that have to do with anything? You've gone so far off the rails that I literally don't know what you're on about. Khan's stock is plummeting and another loss won't help. He won't be able to command the type of purse he is being offered if he gets his clock cleaned again.

I'm not waving a white flag. I just don't get where you've taken this conversation to. You tried to somehow play the race card (against a half-black fighter lol) and claim Brook as being some British favourite whilst at the same time saying he isn't a big name who doesn't get big money. You're tangled in your own web of contradictions. You've completely lost the plot. - and half? Anyways, I was responding to your "stock plummeting" remark. -Kell is a big name, but Khan is bigger between the two both in UK/World. -Similarly being known on a wider scale & being paid handsomely are mutually exclusive. Some guys own their own promotion and deal with networks directly like Sturm, yet many may not know him (casual). - Being a favorite and being big name are also mutually exclusive. Khan is a big name, but not a favorite necessarily. Also underdogs become favorite cuz they're underdogs as another example. -Brook isn't getting big $ at least based on Porter, but again M.Hatton fight was bigger, but even that would be how much? That is why it is wise to wait till next summer and make it bigger. I mean it is still big, but not the Amir Khan money. - I just asked purse figures for Hatton-Senchenko. Not a hard question. This is your ploy of becoming pedantic and play the "huh? wah? who?" routine when you feel like bailing out. Shouldn't have brought in Brook to begin with.

If Brook does fight Chris Van Heerden, I'll be disappointed. Until then, I'll just take it as Khan talking completely out of his arse.

If Kell Brook's next fight is Van Heerden or Bundu..i will lose a lot of respect for him as will alot of boxing fans. That will be three walk over fights in a row and as a champion he needs to start getting involved in 50/50 fights like Bradley, Maidana, Thurman etc. He isn't getting any younger and Eddie hearn needs to pull his finger out and promote the biggest star on his roster.

Aaah I see. http://www.karipatterson.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/white-flag.png I'm sure Brook had 80% of the purse against Hatton or Senchenko. 80% of a 50 or may be even 100k. :lol1: I'm not waving a white flag. I just don't get where you've taken this conversation to. You tried to somehow play the race card (against a half-black fighter lol) and claim Brook as being some British favourite whilst at the same time saying he isn't a big name who doesn't get big money. You're tangled in your own web of contradictions. You've completely lost the plot.

You have gone way off kilter. I will light a candle for you. Aaah I see. http://www.karipatterson.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/white-flag.png I'm sure Brook had 80% of the purse against Hatton or Senchenko. 80% of a 50 or may be even 100k. :lol1:

I'm not referring to you or the likes of Laced Up. However, it is true the hate Khan gets has tons to do with it. I mentioned thack for a reason. I can't find the #s for Hatton or Senchenko. Can you find them? You have gone way off kilter. I will light a candle for you.

Brook was only entitled to 15% of the purse as the mandatory challenger against Porter. :lol1:@ "our Brook". So is Brook a big name or is he not? Make up your mind which angle your going to use. Trying to place the race card now for Khan vs. Brook? LOL...stop posting. I'm not referring to you or the likes of Laced Up. However, it is true the hate Khan gets has tons to do with it. I mentioned thack for a reason. I can't find the #s for Hatton or Senchenko. Can you find them?

Well, he got booed against Barrera in Manchester, his pre-sh1t talking days. I'm sure there would be plenty like that thack wanting to see "our Brook" beat Khan. If Haye-Harrison can be sold, well this is levels above that trash. Brook's biggest fight equated to him being paid $200 k vs Porter, so from that angle they'll still go for it. Brook was only entitled to 15% of the purse as the mandatory challenger against Porter. :lol1:@ "our Brook". So is Brook a big name or is he not? Make up your mind which angle your going to use. Trying to place the race card now for Khan vs. Brook? LOL...stop posting.

It really isn't. Khan's stock is already plummeting on both sides of the Atlantic. If he gets cleaned out again, he'll be in the same category as David Price. Well, he got booed against Barrera in Manchester, his pre-sh1t talking days. I'm sure there would be plenty like that thack wanting to see "our Brook" beat Khan. If Haye-Harrison can be sold, well this is levels above that trash. Brook's biggest fight equated to him being paid $200 k vs Porter, so from that angle they'll still go for it.

Rios talked a bunch of sh1t, got offered two 7 figure purses (if he was confident of winning) and turned it down. Embarrassing duck from Bum Bum.

@EddieHearn @Seckbach **** wasn***39;t there and if it was I would have took it. So it***39;s cool trying to make it seem like if I was scared lol— Bam Bam Brandon Rios (@Brandon_Rios1) July 25, 2015 @EddieHearn @Seckbach naw cuz I want to fight but it didn***39;t make sense. You know you are a business man.— Bam Bam Brandon Rios (@Brandon_Rios1) July 25, 2015

@Seckbach @Brandon_Rios1 it was all there for him Ellie - he didn***39;t want it— Eddie Hearn (@EddieHearn) July 25, 2015 @EddieHearn @Seckbach **** wasn***39;t there and if it was I would have took it. So it***39;s cool trying to make it seem like if I was scared lol— Bam Bam Brandon Rios (@Brandon_Rios1) July 25, 2015

If Khan does lose and Brook still holds the belt the fight is still relevant. I mean you did hear about the Coyle-Campbell "rivalry" right? Kell is Amir's insurance policy. It really isn't. Khan's stock is already plummeting on both sides of the Atlantic. If he gets cleaned out again, he'll be in the same category as David Price.

Well yeah, Khan almost lost to Chris Algieri and has a wafer chin thin so it would be best to make the fight as soon as possible. If Khan does lose and Brook still holds the belt the fight is still relevant. I mean you did hear about the Coyle-Campbell "rivalry" right? Kell is Amir's insurance policy.

There is a reason why they want the Khan fight NOW. WW is a tough division and Kell is now champ. They need to cash out asap. Well yeah, Khan almost lost to Chris Algieri and has a wafer chin thin so it would be best to make the fight as soon as possible.