As controversial as that line may be, it's the truth. They can't stand the fact that the MOST DOMINANT/STRONGEST fighter in the WORLD is LIGHT SKINNED/WHITE. But I'm not going to bother discussing this further because then I'll be labeled as a racist so I'll save it.
POINT IS, the best 160 pounder vs the best 168 pounder in the world MEET IN THE MIDDLE. WHY NOT? Why is Gennady the one expected to MAKE the SACRIFICE against the bigger guy and not Ward? Meeting in the middle is the fair thing to do.
Andre is just a poosy coward bish, all talk, no balls.
You're a serious loser.
GGG said he would face the best at 168 yet now does not want to.
Cotto has said that he intends to keep the belt should he beat Canelo
That means that if Golovkin is still mandatory, then he will likely fight him
This right here^^^^, plus he said he will fight him right after Canelo. Unlike Canelo who said he will fight him sometime down the line.
This thing is for sure. Ward doeant want GGG or kovalev. And he wabts to stay ay 168 and recycle through fighters..
whilebthere is degale groves jack and dirrell. Excuses excuses. He is my friend. Wont fight hopkins why again??
you say it as though its fact. why would roc nation be trying to get the fight if what u said was true? the reality is ward will fight both when has ward ever been scared of a fight? when are people going to realize these fighters are not scared of other fighters the reality is ward probably wants them both and we need to quit giving these guys excuses. ward ggg is the best possible fight boxing has to offer right now were talking winner is the new p4p king the fight has to happen just like mayweather pac had to happen and if we keep giving ward and ggg excuses it will never happen. im tired of the he said she said but this happened once and this fighter said this and what about when this fighter did that so now ggg dont have to fight him i mean seriously people enough with the bs we need to all demand this fight then when its over if ward wins then we need to demand kovalev ward. just like we should be demanding kovalev stevenson instead we give all these guys excuses while they knock out tomato cans
This thing is for sure. Ward doeant want GGG or kovalev. And he wabts to stay ay 168 and recycle through fighters..
whilebthere is degale groves jack and dirrell. Excuses excuses. He is my friend. Wont fight hopkins why again??
Aren't you part of the same vocal group of guys who don't take Duva seriously?
A fan friendly unification fight, but I guess that doesn't interest you. Ward can rematch Abraham in the meantime.
I take Kathy duva at her word.
and ward's promoter said the same thing. 2016
I'm black....BIG GGG fan..I hate Andre Ward so much I reported you.
Why. You may be in the minority ,but it obvious thats who hates him. Im not being racist. Im being honest. He is hated for 1 reason
Its seems clear ward doesnt wanna fight.
ducking GGG .ward is in no position to dictate any terms...
Seems like just black people hate on GGG
I'm black....BIG GGG fan..I hate Andre Ward so much I reported you.
The two camps are not even in discussions for a fight so there is absolutely nothing to agree or disagree on in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is all hype fed by the Internet media once again because they need something to write about and something to drive traffic to sites like this one. There is nothing at all to talk about until the two sides actually decide to start negotiating for a fight. Loeffler was asked a question by Fat Dan and he responded. That led to more questions being asked during a video question period that was then posted on the net. This led to Ward's camp making comments, leading to other comments, and on and on and on...
But no one from either camp is talking to the other camp or to HBO about getting this fight set up. It is all simply Internet fluff as usual. Give it a few days and it will be replaced with the next bit of fluff that comes floating by.
A side said 164
50/50
In MSG
Take it or leave it and duck kovalev as well
not true. ward turned down bute, stevenson, froch 2, and degale called him out recently and ward hasn't pursued him at all. ggg has tried to fight every top middle of the last 5 years: cotto, martinez, sturm, quillin, lee, pirog, soliman, chavez jr, ndam etc...there's no one at 160 that offered ggg a career high payday and ggg turned it down. ward has done that multiple times.
Damn .. wardstans got burned..
lmao
As fun as it would be to act like a flo mo and say "Whatever A-side says goes!", draining Ward below his usual cut would put an asterisk by the win, just like most of Floyd's biggest wins.
I want to see two healthy comfortable fighters in a good fight
Be careful not to lower yourselves to the level of flo mos whilst battling them
Oh, please. He beat a bunch of euro bums and American no hopers, most of which you don't hear about nowadays. That tournament was full of bums and journeymen.. Dirrell, Abraham, Bika, Green... all in the shadows nowadays, in the outskirts of boxing. And FROCH is the most overrated robot in boxing. Ugliest most noobish style I have seen.
And that tournament was 4-5 years ago, the world continued, you know? It's in the distant past. Everything changes. A guy named Gennady Golovkin took over boxing while Andrea did nothing. This is 2015, Golovkin is the biggest name in boxing right now.
:lol1: And you would call the guys on GGG's resume what? Murderers row?
Oh, please. He beat a bunch of euro bums and American no hopers, most of which you don't hear about nowadays. That tournament was full of bums and journeymen.. Dirrell, Abraham, Bika, Green... all in the shadows nowadays, in the outskirts of boxing. And FROCH is the most overrated robot in boxing. Ugliest most noobish style I have seen.
And that tournament was 4-5 years ago, the world continued, you know? It's in the distant past. Everything changes. A guy named Gennady Golovkin took over boxing while Andrea did nothing. This is 2015, Golovkin is the biggest name in boxing right now.
Lets be real here. When that tourny came about, everyone asked "why 168?" because it wasn't a hotbed of talent. After Ward won though, all of those guys suddenly became legendary.
Nobody is ducking anybody. GGG isn't ducking Ward and Ward isn't ducking GGG. Two champions of different weights can't agree on a weight or terms. It happens sometimes and it's nobody's fault. People should quit trying to label either of these excellent fighters a ducker. They both have shown a willingness to fight the best fighters in their OWN weight class.
The two camps are not even in discussions for a fight so there is absolutely nothing to agree or disagree on in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is all hype fed by the Internet media once again because they need something to write about and something to drive traffic to sites like this one. There is nothing at all to talk about until the two sides actually decide to start negotiating for a fight. Loeffler was asked a question by Fat Dan and he responded. That led to more questions being asked during a video question period that was then posted on the net. This led to Ward's camp making comments, leading to other comments, and on and on and on...
But no one from either camp is talking to the other camp or to HBO about getting this fight set up. It is all simply Internet fluff as usual. Give it a few days and it will be replaced with the next bit of fluff that comes floating by.
Nobody is ducking anybody. GGG isn't ducking Ward and Ward isn't ducking GGG. Two champions of different weights can't agree on a weight or terms. It happens sometimes and it's nobody's fault. People should quit trying to label either of these excellent fighters a ducker. They both have shown a willingness to fight the best fighters in their OWN weight class.
not true. ward turned down bute, stevenson, froch 2, and degale called him out recently and ward hasn't pursued him at all. ggg has tried to fight every top middle of the last 5 years: cotto, martinez, sturm, quillin, lee, pirog, soliman, chavez jr, ndam etc...there's no one at 160 that offered ggg a career high payday and ggg turned it down. ward has done that multiple times.
most people move multiple weight classes in their careers
GGG is in his ****ing 30s, if nobody at 160 will fight you then its time to move the **** up and stop complaining.
He has called out pac and floyd. People that have moved up from 130 and below. Stop being a vagina GGG and move up yourself
yes but most fighters turn pro in their late teens while they are still growing. ggg was fighting at 140 at age 19 so hes already moved up 3 if you want to compare like things.
Nobody is ducking anybody. GGG isn't ducking Ward and Ward isn't ducking GGG. Two champions of different weights can't agree on a weight or terms. It happens sometimes and it's nobody's fault. People should quit trying to label either of these excellent fighters a ducker. They both have shown a willingness to fight the best fighters in their OWN weight class.
how can ggg offer 2 guys a fight at 168 , yet he hides behind 164 with ward ??????
the same way one guy can fight another at 160lbs and not agree to fight some other at 164lbs.
this all about leverage.
honestly, I'd rather GGG and Ward move on and fight others within their division.
GGG has some belts to collect esp after Cotto/Canelo.
Ward, has another generation of 168lbers to fight.