I could see Ali beating him.
Vaughn Bean was making Vitali miss at points. Imagine what a prime Ali would do.
Haw haw haw....
Pppplease!!!
Just stop man!
Which part of Ali's "prime" career could possibly lead to the conclusion that Ali would even be ALLOWED to box Vitali ****in Klitschko?
Pure bred, 5th generation pedigree NUTBAG!
There will always be big punchers of sufficient height AND speed/skill that could potentially sneak a stoppage out of Vitali..
There is nobody prior to Mike Tyson who stands any chance of even a fluke victory whatsoever, so we can safely say that we are confined to big punchers there.
The 2 occasions Vitali DID lose were however due to even rarer circumstances where an unfortunate skin tearing prevented him from continuing and an unfortunate shoulder injury prevented him from continuing. As these events are more to do with luck than anything else, we can safely overlook these types of defeats as well.
The third filter should include those fighters that could have beaten Vitali at the early and later stages of his career when they were "primer" and Vitali was at a compromised stage. For instance...
- David Haye
imo would have beaten Vitali right near the end there, but of course we all know that a prime Vitali would have smashed him good.
So basically, what we should be looking at are the boxers which could be envisioned might beat Vitali with both "legitimacy" and "consistency".
Which narrows the list right down to just 3 boxers...
- Wladimir Klitschko
- Lennox Lewis
- Mike Tyson
These 3 guys are the ONLY boxers that need to be considered. You dont't have to know about any others.
Of course, there are cases to be made for Vitali against all 3 of these guys (and likewise too of course).
It's just possible that after all the filters are applied,
NOBODY legitimately and consistently could beat Vitali Klitschko!
He is possibly the H2H GOAT!
Prime Lewis would always stop him. So would Bowe but in a back and forth war. Ali would be way too slick and smart for him. Holyfield on points in a war. Tyson another guy who would make the ref save Klitschko's face.
Basicely Klitschko's downfall is his weak facial skin and that he's not used to getting hit hard repeatedly because of all the bums he fought and dominated. His chin can take the punishment but his face can't.
Lennox Lewis (with the help of a doctor).
That was a stoppage all day long. Terrible deep cut very close to the eye. Lewis beat Vitali TKO in his final fight. Yes he ducked the rematch but Credit where it's due. Last really good quality HW title fight.
Ali , Foreman , Holmes , Tyson , Bowe , Lewis , Wlad could have beaten him but The only one I'd make a slight favourite is Lewis
Wlad and Lennox are capable of it but they're still even fights
I don't know if I agree with choices like Dempsey and Foreman because they'd have to surprise him and knock him out and keep him knocked out. Vitali was never even knocked down or significantly shaken. You would be betting on a hail mary TD pass.
Klitchko has possibly the best Chin in Heavyweight History and that's coming from a big fan of the past greats. I don't think any Prime fighter KO's Vitali, Wlad is a whole other story.
Past Heavyweights I believe could beat Vitali:
Holyfield
Ali
Lewis
Frazier
Holmes
Past Heavyweights the could beat Wlad:
Tyson (KO)
Holyfield (KO/UD)
Ali(KO/UD)
Dempsey(KO)
Lewis (KO/UD)
Holmes (UD/SD)
Louis(KO)
Frazier (KO/UD)
Forman(KO)
I could see Ali beating him.
Vaughn Bean was making Vitali miss at points. Imagine what a prime Ali would do.
Yea and he didn't look that great against Byrd, despite being way ahead on the cards which is why I favour Ali.
What HWs in history do you think could beat Vitali, either by stoppage or by decision?
Ali, Tyson, Holyfield, possibly a better Lewis, possibly Frazier, Foreman.
Not to hurt the east europeans too much, these are the guys I think Vitali beats:
Liston, Bowe, his own bro, Holmes, Dempsey, Johnson
I don't think anybody knocks him out but here's my list.
Holyfield
Young George
Lennox Lewis
Ali
Joe Louis-would have to be heavier.
I can also see vitali beating them as well. There isn't one hw I'd say for sure has his number. I considered Tyson but just think he'd get frustrated eventually because he can't hurt vitali and that would cost him.
I could see Ali beating him.
Vaughn Bean was making Vitali miss at points. Imagine what a prime Ali would do.