Broner is still a natural 135-140 pounder, he is just undisciplined

I agree when he gets hit he doesn't want to fire back just hold and cover up and pretend to the TV crews and crowd it's not bothering him when it really is. he has a good chin and pretty good power. But his defense is leaky he was getting hit with everything. Jabs from long range and every body shot. He is not active enough either to be a come forward fighter. He needs a new trainer and team. And then go from there. But like I said before I think he is stubborn. But it's worth a try. He can't get much worse at the moment.

he shouldn't have skipped 140

If you look at when he was at 130-135 he looked much better, fresher, healthier, his face was lean and defined... since going up to 147 he's looked like a chipmunk and fat as fk, the guy was walking around at 170 inbetween one fight can't remember it. This guy must have the worst work ethic in boxing, he ballooned to a muffin before the Maidana fight too, they probably only moved him up because of his eating problem. He should be fighting no higher than 140. Gtfoh. His days at 135 are long gone. He will never ever weigh that much again. If he fights 140 guys it will be at a catchweight of 142+

Pretty sure he can't make 140 easily.

Broner is just an average B level fighter. Who has he beaten? The two known fighters on his resume he barely scraped winning. I thought DeLeon beat him and he barely beat Paulie.

He has talent but mentally he is a kid. That's his problem.

people are saying broner needs to becoem offensive because thats what hes built for. Maybe he's built for that physically but not mentally. Mentally Broner isn't a fighter, he looks like he doesn't want to be in there, when guys hit him his reaction is not to hit back its to cover up. He tries to be defensive because he doesn't like to be hit or pressured plain and simple

i dont think hes a 135 fighter but id say 140. Even when he fought Porter and Maidana he looked their size if nto bigger

He's mentally weak, hard to fix that kind of a flaw.

Broner would be a major player at 135, but sadly it's not in his genes.. Just look at his dad... 2 years from now he will be a 154er, getting beat down

Yea, I rarely make statements about what weight a guy can and can't make (having been successful at huge fluctuations myself) but Broner is one of the clearest examples of a guy out growing a weight division. It's not like he's a slob at 144/147. He's lean and you don't get shoulders like that from not training. People see the clown personality and assume he doesn't train. I'll be the trains quite well. His mental game just isn't elite. You can see it in the way he talks to his corner when under adversity. The way he can't change gears. That's something that's unlikely to get resolved. The point about his work ethic always comes down to the little details, dude obviously puts work in the gym because as you said he doesn't look to have much fat on him at all. Broner is pretty much at his limit for right now weight wise for sure. Is he working on those fine points of his game to be the fighter he obviously wants to be. To me that answer is obviously no he doesn't because really he does the same BS. I guess you could call that attention to detail rather than not working hard enough.

His fault, my gain.

broner better hire Ann Wolfe or else he is going to end up taking beatings at 154 in a couple of years...

He is just a pretty good fighter. It doesn't matter what weight he fights at he still will not be an outstanding fighter. I agree he should fight at 140 pounds or even 135 if he is strong at that weight. Broner seems gun shy now. He doesn't like to take punishment and he will hold and run rather than trade punches with a guy like Maidana or Porter. He doesn't have the skill to stand in front of them and make them miss and make them pay. He can't handle a hard puncher who comes at him hard and fast with both fists blazing. His defense against them is running and holding. At 140 I think Matthysse and Ruslin will work him over the same way Porter and Maidana did at 144 and 147. If he is not a hard trainer now what reason is there to believe he will train hard in the future?

This thread ignores age and genetics. At 25, he's at a point when guys start to fill out, especially if it's in their genes (look at his dad). He's been bursting at the seams for a while and it's only going to get worse. Yes, he may have looked better when he was lighter but that's not an option for him anymore. Discipline aside, he can't make 135 anymore. This. Broner strangely doesn't seem to posses a sense of urgency in the ring. He seems content to let the fight slip away.

Yeah i mentioned a few days ago that he can no longer boil down to lightweight anymore. Maybe he could when he was 21-22 but now thats life, the older some guys get, the harder it is to shift weight. Some guys are lucky where they can continue to do it with age, Broner isn't one of them. I think the minimum he could get down to would be 140 and i don't think it would be that comfortable. Look at guys like Tyson, he was as short as some middleweights but i doubt he could have even got down to cruiserweight. Broner is a stocky guy, he doesn't look fleshy at the weight, he looks cut and in good shape when its time to fight. The real issue is that he just isn't that good. He can't boil down to 135 and bully guys anymore so he has to fight guys his own size and his skills are just not great. I think he can be a much better fighter though but he is just trying to be some sort of slickster which probably don't suit his natural attributes. The reality is that he just isn't as good as he was hyped to be. He's still a good fighter but not a top tier fighter. No shame in that, not everybody can be elite. If he didn't act the way he does, people would just be like "Broner, yeah he's pretty good" - But when you're saying you're going to take over the sport and carrying on the way he does, people are only going to ridicule you when it goes wrong. Only has himself to blame really. Yea, I rarely make statements about what weight a guy can and can't make (having been successful at huge fluctuations myself) but Broner is one of the clearest examples of a guy out growing a weight division. It's not like he's a slob at 144/147. He's lean and you don't get shoulders like that from not training. People see the clown personality and assume he doesn't train. I'll be the trains quite well. His mental game just isn't elite. You can see it in the way he talks to his corner when under adversity. The way he can't change gears. That's something that's unlikely to get resolved.

Yeah i mentioned a few days ago that he can no longer boil down to lightweight anymore. Maybe he could when he was 21-22 but now thats life, the older some guys get, the harder it is to shift weight. Some guys are lucky where they can continue to do it with age, Broner isn't one of them. I think the minimum he could get down to would be 140 and i don't think it would be that comfortable. Look at guys like Tyson, he was as short as some middleweights but i doubt he could have even got down to cruiserweight. Broner is a stocky guy, he doesn't look fleshy at the weight, he looks cut and in good shape when its time to fight. The real issue is that he just isn't that good. He can't boil down to 135 and bully guys anymore so he has to fight guys his own size and his skills are just not great. I think he can be a much better fighter though but he is just trying to be some sort of slickster which probably don't suit his natural attributes. The reality is that he just isn't as good as he was hyped to be. He's still a good fighter but not a top tier fighter. No shame in that, not everybody can be elite. If he didn't act the way he does, people would just be like "Broner, yeah he's pretty good" - But when you're saying you're going to take over the sport and carrying on the way he does, people are only going to ridicule you when it goes wrong. Only has himself to blame really.

He needs to drop back down, where he has the size weight advantage ditch the shoulder roll, become a more aggressive fighter, take about 3 soft touched too regain his confidence and get a new trainer

This thread ignores age and genetics. At 25, he's at a point when guys start to fill out, especially if it's in their genes (look at his dad). He's been bursting at the seams for a while and it's only going to get worse. Yes, he may have looked better when he was lighter but that's not an option for him anymore. Discipline aside, he can't make 135 anymore.

no offensive but ur opinion is dumb as hell broner is just fine at WW but he just needs a new trainer, the problem with him is that he thinks hes a counter puncher and defensieve wizard when in reality hes more like a prime kirkland that is waiting to get out,he is a offensive fighter who is disguised as a defensive one and he fell for that theory himself, but deep down he knows hes got insane power and offensive tools ,i am dead serioius when i say that i think if he finds a new trainer he can possess the same tools that hagler had but at smaller weights He was the first to drop Porter. I think he'd look powerful at 135. But does he have that discipline?