Been out of the loop. What is the latest on Golovkin-Froch?

Yeah. But Abraham is totally past-it. I could see Monroe or Murray giving Abraham trouble. Abraham is horrendous to watch these days. No stamina and just wings arm punches whenever he comes out his shell. Paul Smith going 24 rounds with that should've had the theme track to the Benny Hill show looping.

You do realise he went 24 rounds with Arthur Abraham - a very close first fight. And Abraham had a very similar middleweight run to Golovkin. Yeah. But Abraham is totally past-it. I could see Monroe or Murray giving Abraham trouble.

Nope. Smith was low-level when he fought at MW and low-level when he fought at SMW. Never made it past the Brit domestic scene. Stevens, Macklin, and Rubio would KO him no question. Monroe, Murray, Geale, Rosado, Adama all beat him on points easy. You do realise he went 24 rounds with Arthur Abraham - a very close first fight. And Abraham had a very similar middleweight run to Golovkin.

Are you even ready for the truth? Wards best win is Froch. GGG would move up in weight and fight Froch in his backyard but he doesn't seem to be interested because GGG is the most dangerous fight out there and GGG has the power to hurt Froch. (in comparision Ward woul just bore the crowd to death if he had the balls to rematch Froch in Nottingham) If Froch fights again in his life it will probably against Golovkin. Ward's best win is Kessler imo but whatever. If Golovin would beat this 38 years old version of Froch that wouldn't be the same as the 2011 prime verison which was beaten by Ward easily. Golovkin already beat Dirrel and Bute in the amateurs, he knocked out Bute with headgear on, Ward doesn't even wanna step in the ring with the likes of Dirrel because he might get outboxed. First off: You GGG stans bring up the amateur records all the time like it would be relevant regard of their professional resume. No it isn't. But if you want to stick to that then I can tell you, Andre Ward is an Olympic gold medallist and won that gold medal far from his home. Ward is a "road warrior" :D Second: If anything Dirrell didn't want to fight Ward in the super six times and before he could get the Ward fight he took off a long-long time because of the Abraham fight. Now he situation is Ward is Roc Nation affiliated and both of the Dirrels are with Haymon. You won't see any time soon Haymon fighter vs RN fighter unless maybe it's a mando but even then it's not sure. Also Ward got the offer from Hearn to fight Froch but he didnt have the balls to fight Froch in Nottingham, what does that tell you? GGG would go to Nottingham AND move up in weight without hesitation. Andre Ward only fights in his homecountry and preferably in his backyard, he takes no risk, if you wanna be great you cannot only fight in your backyard with your homerefs and your homecrowd, specially against the likes of Froch who can draw much more fans than you. Froch and Gennady definetely are true warriors who travel all around the world to fight the best possible fights. Good to know that you're Freedom's alt, I didn't know it yet. Ward has nothing to prove against Froch. He beat Froch fair and square in the super six. He beat him up, backed him up almost all the time. He bullied the bully. I watched it last time with British commentators they had Ward easily winning the fight and nobody said that it's because "it's in Ward's country". Yu get hard every time when a fighter travels and fights in foreign countries but I don't know if you eve realized that most of the time, I mean in most of the weight classes USA is the mecca of boxing and everybody wants to fight there. Only exceptions are some bigger start who are fighting in Germany or UK and a few weight classes which aren't popular at all in the USA (cruiser and lower weight classes mainly). And please don't bring up Golovkin as a "road warrior". It's not the question of who has ball and who hasn't but the question of who has to travel and who hasn't. Golovkin definitely had to travel because he would be far from the fame he has now if he would stayed in Kazakhstan, lmao... Idon't know if you're even serious now... First he moved to Germany because it's an European centrum and more lucrative than fighting in Kazakhstan then he moved to USA because it's even more lucrative and brings even more fame. You think about this like this would be a bravery contest. It's really about what's more lucrative or do you have to travel anywhere or not... You think about this like it would be the question of machoism and you polarise the whole thing. Like there are the evils and the goods, the brave road warriors and the evil guys who fight at home. Are you a child or do you just act like that? That's all about you "road warrior" fetish. Who is the ignorant f.uck? Stop hating on the p4p superstar Golovkin. I respect Froch even if he retires, but Ward at this time is irrelevant and only brought up by GGG haters claiming GGG is scared of him because of a hilarious elie seckbach interview where GGG's bad english gets lost in translation. (If you actually know GGG and his way of talking you know what he actually meant) The funny thing is that Ward himself is not ready to fight GGG and he needs not just one but at least two tuneups fight to get ready for GGG. There are several interviews about it, even on the ring tv website and youtube. Also Andre fights freaking Paul Smith, a guy that little Abraham destroyed twice at 168 and Ward even makes this bum move up to Light heavyweight. Yeah, you're the ignorant fuck. P4P superstar my ass. You just simply can't be P4P superstar with your best win is Martin Murray. You know who are P4P superstars? Mayweather and Pacquiao for example, two accomplished guys who beat elite opponents throughout their careers and earned the spot now they are on. Golovkin has nothing on those guys yet and hell no, it's not a hating against Golovkin that's just simply a fact. I didn't say that he is scared to him but yes he said that Ward is too much for him. "Broken English doe". Lmao... How many different ways can you read: "He is too much. Andre is Andre and me is me.". But if it feels comfortably to you than just spin it as you want. And no, I don't use Ward for "GGG hating" I'm a Ward fan myself, I know that you just hardly can imagine that someone doesn't have the same taste as you but that's the situation. one-two tune ups after a one and a half year lay off? Yes, I don't think it's a felony. You're bitching about Ward's tune ups while he already has a way better resume than Golovkin and Golovkin still fights Paul Smith type tune ups. Ward has been calling out GGG when Ward himself was inactive and only "fought" poor Dan Goossen in Court. Ward now has a very low profile when someone mentions GGG's name and will probably spend at least a year on tuneup fights and his team is unsure he can even make 168 ever again. You just got owned and can now leave this forum. You didn't own nothing you pathetic alt. You wrote a long comment but you couldn't counter any of my arguments. Are you ready for the truth? Ward is younger than GGG Ward is more accomplished than him and has a better resume than him. He was inactive fr a long time and Golovkin is very active lately but he still couldn't even nearly surpass Ward's resume. Ward will fight one or two tune ups and he will have a better resume than Golovkin. Still. I really hate to argue with rabid fans because it makes me up like I would be some kind of a hater while it's nothing like that. But yes I have to defend my favourite fighters if someone don't give them the respect what's due and I will argue against them. You embarrass the normal Golovkin fans with this behaviour.

Learn a little, just a little respect you ignorant fuck Ward must stole your gf or I don't know what he did to you but it seems like you hang on his nuts all the time and you can't let them go even in a thread about a hypothetical Froch vs Golovkin fight. Now face the facts: That guy has already MILES better resume than Golovkin's, yes even with that long inactivity and yes even with that one-two tune ups and he is still younger than him. Only hard cold facts. You're bitching about tune ups after one and a half year lay off and dissing Ward while your favourite always fights Paul Smith type tuneups in a dead empty division. Hypocrite. Are you even ready for the truth? Wards best win is Froch. GGG would move up in weight and fight Froch in his backyard but he doesn't seem to be interested because GGG is the most dangerous fight out there and GGG has the power to hurt Froch. (in comparision Ward woul just bore the crowd to death if he had the balls to rematch Froch in Nottingham) Golovkin already beat Dirrel and Bute in the amateurs, he knocked out Bute with headgear on, Ward doesn't even wanna step in the ring with the likes of Dirrel because he might get outboxed. Also Ward got the offer from Hearn to fight Froch but he didnt have the balls to fight Froch in Nottingham, what does that tell you? GGG would go to Nottingham AND move up in weight without hesitation. Andre Ward only fights in his homecountry and preferably in his backyard, he takes no risk, if you wanna be great you cannot only fight in your backyard with your homerefs and your homecrowd, specially against the likes of Froch who can draw much more fans than you. Froch and Gennady definetely are true warriors who travel all around the world to fight the best possible fights. Who is the ignorant f.uck? Stop hating on the p4p superstar Golovkin. I respect Froch even if he retires, but Ward at this time is irrelevant and only brought up by GGG haters claiming GGG is scared of him because of a hilarious elie seckbach interview where GGG's bad english gets lost in translation. (If you actually know GGG and his way of talking you know what he actually meant) The funny thing is that Ward himself is not ready to fight GGG and he needs not just one but at least two tuneups fight to get ready for GGG. There are several interviews about it, even on the ring tv website and youtube. Also Andre fights freaking Paul Smith, a guy that little Abraham destroyed twice at 168 and Ward even makes this bum move up to Light heavyweight. Ward has been calling out GGG when Ward himself was inactive and only "fought" poor Dan Goossen in Court. Ward now has a very low profile when someone mentions GGG's name and will probably spend at least a year on tuneup fights and his team is unsure he can even make 168 ever again. You just got owned and can now leave this forum.

GGG's team said they want the fight and will fight Froch at 168 in England but Froch's promoter has stopped responding to their messages so there is no communication anymore. Hearn is supposed to be waiting on Froch. An international superstar like Carl Froch can do whatever he likes.

GGG's team said they want the fight and will fight Froch at 168 in England but Froch's promoter has stopped responding to their messages so there is no communication anymore.

The truth is if Paul Smith would fight Golovkin he would be in his top 3 or 5 opponents and he is just a tune up for Ward after a 1,5 year long lay off. Nope. Smith was low-level when he fought at MW and low-level when he fought at SMW. Never made it past the Brit domestic scene. Stevens, Macklin, and Rubio would KO him no question. Monroe, Murray, Geale, Rosado, Adama all beat him on points easy.

GGG ain't about that 168 life man... Yeah that's why he offered to have the fight at 168. Same vs Chavez. lol

"Learn a little, just a little respect you ignorant **** Ward must stole your gf or I don't know what he did to you but it seems like you hang on his nuts all the time and you can't let them go even in a thread about a hypothetical Froch vs Golovkin fight. Now face the facts: That guy has already MILES better resume than Golovkin's, yes even with that long inactivity and yes even with that one-two tune ups and he is still younger than him. Only hard cold facts. You're *****ing about tune ups after one and a half year lay off and dissing Ward while your favourite always fights Paul Smith type tuneups in a dead empty division. Hypocrite." Ward is irrelevant. It hurts, I know. What's Ironic is Ward could want fights with GGG and Froch all day, the funny thing is he's not deserving or relevant at this point. Even with a win over Smith he is far from a title shot He actually has a title dude but it was a nice try. And I find it hypocritical that the same people taunting Ward being "irrelevant" are the ones who are bitching about the likes of Cotto doesn't care about GGG. When it comes to GGG, everybody must feel sorry for him and blame the evil Cotto/Roc Nation/De La Hoya/Illuminati/Reptilians because he doesn't get those big fights but it's okay to diss Ward because "he is irrelevant" because his inactivity. I guess it's whatever. If the skills > popularity thing fits in the agenda then you put Cotto or Mayweather on blast because the don't fight poor Golovkin and if the "who cares about that guys skills, he is irrelevant" thing fits in your agenda then you change to that without a blink and taunt Ward because his so called "irrelevancy". Go tell Cotto how relevant Golovkin is, maybe he changes his mind and fight him next instead of Canelo. The truth is if Paul Smith would fight Golovkin he would be in his top 3 or 5 opponents and he is just a tune up for Ward after a 1,5 year long lay off.

"Learn a little, just a little respect you ignorant **** Ward must stole your gf or I don't know what he did to you but it seems like you hang on his nuts all the time and you can't let them go even in a thread about a hypothetical Froch vs Golovkin fight. Now face the facts: That guy has already MILES better resume than Golovkin's, yes even with that long inactivity and yes even with that one-two tune ups and he is still younger than him. Only hard cold facts. You're *****ing about tune ups after one and a half year lay off and dissing Ward while your favourite always fights Paul Smith type tuneups in a dead empty division. Hypocrite." Ward is irrelevant. It hurts, I know. What's Ironic is Ward could want fights with GGG and Froch all day, the funny thing is he's not deserving or relevant at this point. Even with a win over Smith he is far from a title shot

Hearn said if Froch fights again its vs GGG. Froch dont want none of those tuneups, thats a waste of time and he has maybe one fight left. Froch is a man and not a sissy like Andre Ward, I hope he fights GGG, even if Froch loses it will earn him alot of credit. Learn a little, just a little respect you ignorant fuck Ward must stole your gf or I don't know what he did to you but it seems like you hang on his nuts all the time and you can't let them go even in a thread about a hypothetical Froch vs Golovkin fight. Now face the facts: That guy has already MILES better resume than Golovkin's, yes even with that long inactivity and yes even with that one-two tune ups and he is still younger than him. Only hard cold facts. You're bitching about tune ups after one and a half year lay off and dissing Ward while your favourite always fights Paul Smith type tuneups in a dead empty division. Hypocrite.

Hearn said if Froch fights again its vs GGG. Froch dont want none of those tuneups, thats a waste of time and he has maybe one fight left. Froch is a man and not a sissy like Andre Ward, I hope he fights GGG, even if Froch loses it will earn him alot of credit.

froch is fighting paul smith and needs 2 tune ups Froch can take a tuneup though. :sombrero:

froch is fighting paul smith and needs 2 tune ups

GGG ain't about that 168 life man...

Froch is running scared, using G's name to boost his huge ego

Golovkin's team said they have had no response from Hearn about the fight so it looks like it's not happening.B1tch move by Froch after all the sh1t he talked about how he would be too big and strong for GGG.

Week or so away from his decision, I had a feeling he will fight one more time against GGG or Degale.

I would love to see Froch-GGG but at this stage he's been way too inactive for me to get excited about it.