Personally Ive always preferred 160 & below (135-154 being my favorites) I think because its sort of a melting pot of nationalities in those divisions. But the Heavyweights only seem to be relevent when an American is champ, you would think Americans & other countries that highly promote boxing would be trying to establish the next HW contender but seems like everyone is cruising in neutral either waiting for the Klitchkos to fade or retire. Anyways like I said Ive never been a fan of the heavies but theyre great for boxing & I hope to see Wilder take a risk sooner than later, your thoughts?
Schleming, Johannson, and the Klitchkos are the only non american HW's that were worth a damn and even they aren't even that good p4p historically
Schleming :lol1:
The problem isn't the K bros, the problem is the entire division is weak. Very similar to Holmes run as the champ. He still doesn't receive much credit because his competition was weak.
Nothing against Klit or Lewis. But they were not exciting like Ali, Holmes, Frazier, Tyson, Holyfield.
Do you see where I'm going with this?
agree with you, if pac was a HW it will be a different story...
The lack of American HW's is because of the lost of interest in boxing by the athletes with potential most have taken up baseball and football instead. As for wladimir and Vitaly not getting any support over here is simple they became boring, earlier on when they first came on the scene the bias boxing folks like Larry Merchant and HBO execs were excited about them till they realized the guys were not American and therefore couldn't sell them to the American public as the great white hopes. Because whether you accept it or not boxing is a nationalist sport.
baseball? you mean basketball?
Co sign!Lmao!!!
I watch boxing no matter the weight class,had high hopes for Bermaime and Arreola.
Like both Klitschos,there just hasn't been many heavyweight bouts televised on my channels,Hbo&Showtime.
At that weightclass I'm looking for more exciting bouts.Cause generally speaking 1 punch could end the fight quicker than the other classes.Plus the fighters stamina winds down faster.Generally speaking of course.
Schleming, Johannson, and the Klitchkos are the only non american HW's that were worth a damn and even they aren't even that good p4p historically
lmao this idiot ^^
Cause havyweight sells. The US is the Mecca of boxing and they will support their guy and that guy being a heavyweight opens up room for potentially a lot of money to be made. The same reason why AJ is being marketed like Crazy. Wlad make like 20 mill a fighter because although envious Americans call him boring, he's an icon in Germany and Eastern Europe.
The lack of American HW's is because of the lost of interest in boxing by the athletes with potential most have taken up baseball and football instead. As for wladimir and Vitaly not getting any support over here is simple they became boring, earlier on when they first came on the scene the bias boxing folks like Larry Merchant and HBO execs were excited about them till they realized the guys were not American and therefore couldn't sell them to the American public as the great white hopes. Because whether you accept it or not boxing is a nationalist sport.
Let's be honest, the money is in the States and it's hard to get people hyped over someone who doesn't come across well on tv. Pac was a rare exception because he was going to war in every fight. We've had a poor HW era and getting Americans (the ones who spends the money) interested in out of shape or clinch-heavy HWs wasn't going to happen.
Not even Henry Cooper? Guy who put Muhammad Ali on his ass?
That was the highlight of Cooper's career. He wasn't a major factor against top American heavyweights otherwise.
America has such a rich history at HW. It's something they're longing to return.
That said, i don't think the lack of the interest in the HW division today is because of the lack of good american HW's. More to it being a poor era overall.
Things look like they could be hotting up somewhat though.
The division remains relevant outside the US. I'd be interested in knowing where Wlad stacks up financially against other boxers. Is anyone aside from Floyd and Manny making that kind of money?
Wlad was like the 25th highest earning athlete in the world in 2014 I believe. Floyd Mayweather is the highest earning athlete in the world. American fighters are often flashy, talk a lot of smack, and have huge power. Ali, Frazier, Tyson, Louis, Foreman, etc.
The Heavyweight Champion of the World is a big deal in American culture for many reasons. Americans loving having the idea of having the baddest man on the planet. Wlad/Lennox never really gave off that vibe. They fought more like welterweights.
Anytime an American becomes HW champ for any length of time, they pretty much become top 3 most famous/highest paid world athletes. If Wilder unifies, he will quickly become one of the biggest sports celebs worldwide..
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