I'm not asking if he can or will beat him. I'm asking if you think stylistically Canelo could overcome GGG. If not who's style from any weight class would give GGG fits. SOG??? Floyd??
In all fairness to GGG, it's probably not a fair fight as Canelo is the bigger man.
GGG just made a choice NOT to sleep in a sauna to make 155lbs. Can't wait for GGG to move up in weight and fight Canelo doe.
People really have to stop judging GGG on what they have seen him do against other fighters. He modifies his style to match the person he is fighting. Everyone seems to think that Golovkin will stand back and let Canelo tee off on him the way he allowed Monroe to do. Give me a break. People try to say that GGG has poor defense but when asked to show the stats to prove it, they can't. Give me any fight and I will pull up the stats that show his defense is anything but weak. Then of course, they will say that Compubox stats are crap and not accept them.
For just once, I would like to see someone, ANYONE, provide something to back up their position. I remember going through crap like this before the Stevens fight, before the Geale fight, before the Murray fight, you name it. They were all going to give GGG a huge challenge and lots of difficulty. We saw how they all turned out. Canelo will be no different.
If Canelo and Oscar really believed he could beat GGG, the fight would be made BEFORE the Cotto fight. Imagine the hype for the guy who beat Golovkin going up against Cotto, the lineal MW champ? It would be incredible. But guess what? Canelo has as much intention of fighting GGG as Cotto has. Absolutely none at all.
I am one of those who believe Golovkin's defense is pretty good. Like we've seen in Monroe fight for example but he seems to let it go if he doesn't respect his opponent power. Like I said it is Golovkin's style that could play into Canelo's hand, literally.
I have a feeling Golovkin can be hurt by body shots rather taking hits to the chin. Man, this is so exciting but I am supporting my man Golovkin all the way. :boxing:
His post is a bit delusional. No offense, Barcham.
So.. on the contrary, I actually think Canelo can trouble Golovkin. I've seen holes in Golovkin's boxing, although he is fantastic and exciting boxer, that Canelo can use to his advantage.
As Canelo likes to fight in spurts and Golovkin likes to increase his punch outpout by trading. With Canelo power he can hurt Golovkin in those moments.
That's one thing I can say right now. However I see Golovkin overall the better boxer puncher and I pick him to win against Canelo.
People really have to stop judging GGG on what they have seen him do against other fighters. He modifies his style to match the person he is fighting. Everyone seems to think that Golovkin will stand back and let Canelo tee off on him the way he allowed Monroe to do. Give me a break. People try to say that GGG has poor defense but when asked to show the stats to prove it, they can't. Give me any fight and I will pull up the stats that show his defense is anything but weak. Then of course, they will say that Compubox stats are crap and not accept them.
For just once, I would like to see someone, ANYONE, provide something to back up their position. I remember going through crap like this before the Stevens fight, before the Geale fight, before the Murray fight, you name it. They were all going to give GGG a huge challenge and lots of difficulty. We saw how they all turned out. Canelo will be no different.
If Canelo and Oscar really believed he could beat GGG, the fight would be made BEFORE the Cotto fight. Imagine the hype for the guy who beat Golovkin going up against Cotto, the lineal MW champ? It would be incredible. But guess what? Canelo has as much intention of fighting GGG as Cotto has. Absolutely none at all.
Wow, Barcham is shameless in his GGG fanboy crush. Bizarre that a mature adult male, would find a heroic father figure in a guy 20 years younger.
War GGG? :boxing:
His post is a bit delusional. No offense, Barcham.
So.. on the contrary, I actually think Canelo can trouble Golovkin. I've seen holes in Golovkin's boxing, although he is fantastic and exciting boxer, that Canelo can use to his advantage.
As Canelo likes to fight in spurts and Golovkin likes to increase his punch outpout by trading. With Canelo power he can hurt Golovkin in those moments.
That's one thing I can say right now. However I see Golovkin overall the better boxer puncher and I pick him to win against Canelo.
I'll be interested to see how GGG's stamina looks against another big guy who is also a top fighter.
Canelo does have stamina issues, but he's went the distance with guys like Lara, Trout, Mayweather, beat up Angulo with power shots for 10 rounds...I think he'll be alright.
neither of these men is as powerful bodypuncher as ggg is, though.
C'mon man, you are acting like GGG is God's gift to boxing.
I don't believe in god.
Golovkin would destroy Canelo and both Canelo and ODLH are very well aware of this fact which is why Oscar will keep Alvarez as far from GGG as possible in the hope that Golovkin moves to SMW before Canelo moves fully into 160. If there was any real confidence in their camp, they would put Canelo up against GGG as soon as possible so they could get him out of the way. But instead, Oscar is talking about a fight two years or so down the line. Not a shred of confidence over there at all. Maybe Canelo's fans should be running his career as they seem to know a lot more than the pros he has now.
Canelo's going to be something vicious when he starts fighting at 160 (no catchweights). I think he could give GGG a good run for his money. Sadly this fight wont happen for a couple more years.
@155lbs, Canelo IS a middleweight so waiting to not starve himself down to 155lbs seems a bit silly.
Canelo is 174lbs on fight night to GGGs 172lbs. Does not seem like Canelo is too keen on facing GGG until GGG is 34-35. Smart...
Wow, Barcham is shameless in his GGG fanboy crush. Bizarre that a mature adult male, would find a heroic father figure in a guy 20 years younger.
War GGG? :boxing:
Pot calling the Kettle black lol.
If Canelo can keep the fight Center ring by moving his head and standing his ground (leg strength), yes he can give GGG fits. He needs more stamina though. I think at 160 and 25years old, Canelo will have the full strength he needs to earn respect. He will have to fight the fight of his life though, he's faster than GGG so he'll have to get off first everytime and than smother GGG, thats where the leg strength comes in. Canelos stamina may be a recipe for disaster for him though...
I do not think any style would give GGG fits. He can stand and punch with anyone and can cut off the ring as good as anyone in the sport and much better than most. He is very adaptable and after 350 amateur and 33 pro fights, I do not think there is any possible style that he has not seen and that he has not defeated.
As for Canelo specifically... I think GGG KTFOs him in under 4 rounds.
C'mon man, you are acting like GGG is God's gift to boxing.
Golovkin's footwork trumps Alvarez' hand speed. Also Alvarez' punching power seems a bit overrated.
Golovkin's not going to fight Alvarez like Angulo did, he's got the reach to bust him up from mid range. People taking way too much from the Monroe fight.
I'm not asking if he can or will beat him. I'm asking if you think stylistically Canelo could overcome GGG. If not who's style from any weight class would give GGG fits. SOG??? Floyd??
Yes, especially after the twelve rounds of schooling that he picked up against Mayweather.
Canelo is an offensive combination puncher, throws effectively to the head and body, and seems to be picking up trips/traps as he develops and picks up more varied sparring.
The Kirkland fight was a **** fight (once Ann Wolfe wasn't there, it was pretty clear that Kirkland wouldn't be ready), but the way that Canelo closed the fight out was impressive; set up the shot with prior body work, used one of the key faints that Mayweather executes (set the shot for the body, before then throwing to the head once the opponent commits to protect), and still had the wherewithal to step out of the immediate line of return fire with a defensive pivot.
Golovkin is there to be hit, doesn't seem to take body shots all that well, and looks like an utterly different fighter when he's force to fight going backwards. Only question is how the chin holds.
Kind of a tired analogy, but Golovkin is akin to a great white shark; in the open water, with prey to pursue, the shark is arguably one of the most ruthlessly effective predators on the planet; stop a shark from coming forward, or even force the shark to travel in retreat, and the shark drowns.
But he doesn't have the stamina.
I'll be interested to see how GGG's stamina looks against another big guy who is also a top fighter.
Canelo does have stamina issues, but he's went the distance with guys like Lara, Trout, Mayweather, beat up Angulo with power shots for 10 rounds...I think he'll be alright.
I predict that Canelo vs GGG would go a whole lot like Garcia vs Matthyse
a phantom punch from out of the ring closes GGG's eye and Canelo's corner putting water near the ropes causing a KD with Al Haymon joining forces with De La Hoya to bribe the judges to score the fight 10-2.
Then, the cycle will continue