Kola is a super middle, almost making as much noise as GGG and is coming off a win over one of the most known boxers on the planet, Bhop and another over Jean Pascal. Stevenson is in the plans for the future, but that fight is 50/50 that it gets made. Regardless, doesnt Ward/Kolalev make more sense?
Kola is a super middle, almost making as much noise as GGG and is coming off a win over one of the most known boxers on the planet, Bhop and another over Jean Pascal. Stevenson is in the plans for the future, but that fight is 50/50 that it gets made. Regardless, doesnt Ward/Kolalev make more sense?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1qltMcIYWw&feature=player_detailpage
in case you missed the memo. Kathy duva said she has already had talks with roc nation and they are gonna make ward vs kovalev next year.
people calling for ward/GGG are doing so because they want to see GGG skills against top flight comp, something we haven't seen yet.
Kov/GGG fans have been calling for Kov/Ward because they think Kov has the better chance of beating Ward than GGG does and they do not want to see GGG lose, especially to an American.
Another important piece-GGG can't get a fight with the best MW's so him fighting Ward fills that void. Kov has quality opponents at 175 that will fight him (although his resigning with HBO took away the Stevenson and bieterviev fights, the 2 best opponents, for now)
Since both men said they were willing to go up a weight class to fight, both should be held to it.
Ward cleaned out 168lbs. He SHOULD move up to 175lbs and prove his p4p greatness as fighters in the past have.
That is your opinion and I do not share it and I have no intention of getting into a pointless pissing match over who has a better resume other than to say that 30 KOs in 33 wins, 20 in a row, has to count for something.
A P4P list reflects the current situation in the sport. If not, we would still have fighters like Leonard and Duran dominating it and people would claim that Hagler should not belong because he has only fought at MW.
33 wins, 30 kos are great but WHO HAS HE FOUGHT?
Its not really a pissing match.. I would love to see Ward-Kov as well. It would be a good fight. I am just showing the difference as to why GGG should fight a ward caliber opponent before ward should have to fight kov thats all.
Wards inactivity doesnt have anything to do with GGG fighting better caliber opponents. He doesnt have to fight ward, he can froch, or I would take an old kessler over everybody hes fought already.
Truth is GGG should be the lineal champ but cotto is never gonna fight him so he should move on and stop calling out welterweights.
That is your opinion and I do not share it and I have no intention of getting into a pointless pissing match over who has a better resume other than to say that 30 KOs in 33 wins, 20 in a row, has to count for something.
A P4P list reflects the current situation in the sport. If not, we would still have fighters like Leonard and Duran dominating it and people would claim that Hagler should not belong because he has only fought at MW.
Apparently, its no big deal, because, you know, everyone is doing that these days. Plus, who wants to see knockouts in boxing? We watch this **** for real dominating performances like unanimous decisions. DUh.
I can understand that....but GGG last quality fight was never.
That is your opinion and I do not share it and I have no intention of getting into a pointless pissing match over who has a better resume other than to say that 30 KOs in 33 wins, 20 in a row, has to count for something.
A P4P list reflects the current situation in the sport. If not, we would still have fighters like Leonard and Duran dominating it and people would claim that Hagler should not belong because he has only fought at MW.
Ward is having ONE fight this year. Compared to his past history, that makes this a VERY busy year for him. :)
And he was not removed from every P4P list for no reason either. His last quality fight was against Froch back in 2011. That's FOUR YEARS AGO! When he has 4 fights equal in quality as his Super Six fights, in a row, then he can go back on the list. No one has the slightest what Ward can do today as he has not had a serious challenge since the Super Six tournament.[/QUO
I can understand that....but GGG last quality fight was never.
Ward's name is irrelevant until he gets back in the ring and proves he hasn't lost a step. That said if he fights at light heavyweight there's no excuse for the fight not to happen.
If he had been fighting consistently over the past 2 years you can bet there would be, I think people are just fed up with Ward for wasting years of his career.
Every time he says he is going to fight soon we wait another 6 months and nothing happens. Lets hope this one coming up kickstarts a busy year for Ward and then we see a push for Kovalev.
Ward is having ONE fight this year. Compared to his past history, that makes this a VERY busy year for him. :)
The difference is Ward has already fought a few "somebodies" and showed his worth. He didnt get moved to p4p # 2 for no reason.
Golovkin has fought nobody.
That is the difference. People want to see ggg in with a real fighter and see what he can really do. We already know what Ward can do.
And he was not removed from every P4P list for no reason either. His last quality fight was against Froch back in 2011. That's FOUR YEARS AGO! When he has 4 fights equal in quality as his Super Six fights, in a row, then he can go back on the list. No one has the slightest what Ward can do today as he has not had a serious challenge since the Super Six tournament.
The difference is Ward has already fought a few "somebodies" and showed his worth. He didnt get moved to p4p # 2 for no reason.
Golovkin has fought nobody.
That is the difference. People want to see ggg in with a real fighter and see what he can really do. We already know what Ward can do.
Golovkin has gone on record that he had no interest in moving up to fight Ward.
Until that fight can be paid for. The only ones capable of covering the purses are Roc Nation. Why are they not stepping up with an offer, and saying, when it makes financial sense?
There is a lot of pressure for Kovalev/Ward. Mostly by Golovkin fans desperate not to see him fight Ward.
I want both. Golovkin will need to come first.
Kola is a super middle, almost making as much noise as GGG and is coming off a win over one of the most known boxers on the planet, Bhop and another over Jean Pascal. Stevenson is in the plans for the future, but that fight is 50/50 that it gets made. Regardless, doesnt Ward/Kolalev make more sense?
I have got to stop you right there...seriously man? You don't know what weight your guy fights at?
I'm a Ward fan, if he goes up to LHW to fight Kovalev, he kisses the Golovkin fight goodbye. Golovkin will never be a LHW.
I want both fights.
Ward started at MW just like Golovkin. SMW is Ward's second weight class. Golovkin should stop holding the title of "Biggest Hypejob in Boxing" hostage. Ward is willing to take his soul this year.
Yay or nay?
What is with these Team Ward wannabies offering the fight in his name? His real team is nowhere as eager
i'd be happy with either fight, but if we could get both that would be ideal. the only thing is, it will be the latter half of 2016 at earliest that golovkin will fight ward, realistically, and does ward have enough quality opponents at super middle to tide him over until then? outside of degale/dirrell it's a fairly barren division right now. as a kovalev fan it'd please me to see him given first dibs on ward's 0
Why Is There No Pressure For Ward To Fight Kolalev?
The people asking for Ward to fight Kovalev (which Kathy Duva said that there are prelim talks for the fight to happen next year) are Golovkin fans.
They have no problem with Golovkin moving down to fight (or fighting smaller guys) but not moving up (or fighting bigger guys).
So I guess I'll see you calling for Ward Kovalev then?
Ideally, Ward/GGG and Stevenson/Kov would be on the same PPV card.
The next card would have Ward's 1st fight at 175 and the winner of Stevenson/Kov defending their title in an "optional" (meaning easy KO) on regular TV.
Assuming Ward wins, his next fight would be against whoever that is. If it's Kov, so be it.