Lucas Matthysse
World champions in bold
Harris, Judah, Corley, Alexander, Soto, Olusegun, Peterson, Garcia*, Molina Jr, Provodnikov
*close loss
Danny Garcia
Campbell, Holt, Morales, Khan, Judah, Matthysse, Herrera*, Peterson
* disputed win
If they retired today would either get in? If not, how many more significant wins do you think they need?
any man who votes those two into the hall of fame, or thinks they should be voted into the hall of fame, should be tied to a pole and burned.
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Gatti was a 2 division champion..pretty good for a club fighter
And James Buster Douglas was undisputed champion, it's all about circumstances and context. Titles only mean so much, their opposition puts their career into perspective.
Gatti was closer to being a top level club fighter than he ever was to being a top level fighter. His skills only showed up against low level opposition but they never seemed to be there against the world level fighters.
I mean lets not go and over rate the man, he was who he was. He was a limited fighter with lots of heart but he wouldn't stand a chance against either Garcia and Matthysee and everyone knows that.
You make it seem like Gatti was some world beater when he was not and it's very possible he would not only struggle with Molina but lose to him as well. I mean the guy lost to Angel Manfredy for crying out loud.
You guys are pretending Gatti ever beat anyone, when you know he didn't. He won one measly vacated title and won another one in a super weak Super Featherweight Division.
Gatti was a 2 division champion..pretty good for a club fighter
do you even know what a club fighter is? Gatti was not a club fighter. He was world level- just on the bottom scale of it. He had legit one punch power that could change fights (not as effective above 130/135 though), his skills weren't terrible either.
Gatti was closer to being a top level club fighter than he ever was to being a top level fighter. His skills only showed up against low level opposition but they never seemed to be there against the world level fighters.
I mean lets not go and over rate the man, he was who he was. He was a limited fighter with lots of heart but he wouldn't stand a chance against either Garcia and Matthysee and everyone knows that.
Gatti slaughtered by Garcia and Lucas? I don't ****ing think so.
Judah went to war with Ward how many years ago? And then like 10-15 years later he beats Lucas(contested but close) and basically exposes Garcia.
I'd pick Gatti to beat both with Lucas having a punchers chance....Gatti has better speed, technique and combinations than both.. Lucas slightly better defence
But if you think Gatti goes life and death Molina you are mistaken.
You make it seem like Gatti was some world beater when he was not and it's very possible he would not only struggle with Molina but lose to him as well. I mean the guy lost to Angel Manfredy for crying out loud.
You guys are pretending Gatti ever beat anyone, when you know he didn't. He won one measly vacated title and won another one in a super weak Super Featherweight Division.
Gatti slaughtered by Garcia and Lucas? I don't ****ing think so.
Judah went to war with Ward how many years ago? And then like 10-15 years later he beats Lucas(contested but close) and basically exposes Garcia.
I'd pick Gatti to beat both with Lucas having a punchers chance....Gatti has better speed, technique and combinations than both.. Lucas slightly better defence
But if you think Gatti goes life and death Molina you are mistaken.
Gatti was a warrior but Mayweather beat him the **** up. Ward terrorised him with body shots and who's the best body puncher in boxing right now? Matthysse beats the **** out of Gatti like Ward did.
I follow Matthysse and I can tell you that he is an uderrated boxer. Gatti froze at times but probably has faster combinations. It would be like a more competetive version of the Soto fight; remember that Soto had never been dropped in like 75 fights and he got stopped. Soto is 22-1 in his last 23 fights at this current moment.
Lucas isn't even a world champ wtf. You lucas fans are doing too much. Btw he lost to zab and devon
Just because your boyfriend lost you don't need to hate on Lucas.
Back to the topic, I think both will have great careers but at the end of the day, they will just fall short of the HOF. Garcia however has a bigger chance as he is beig matched carefully and better.
I respect your opinion but I have to ask in what world was Gatti some respected world champion. I mean with all things considered he beat absolutely no one.
I mean Lucas without even winning a belt is more accomplished than Gatti. Gatti was a club fighter and a HBO love child. He would be slaughtered by both Garica and Matthysee with relative ease.
Gatti slaughtered by Garcia and Lucas? I don't ****ing think so.
Judah went to war with Ward how many years ago? And then like 10-15 years later he beats Lucas(contested but close) and basically exposes Garcia.
I'd pick Gatti to beat both with Lucas having a punchers chance....Gatti has better speed, technique and combinations than both.. Lucas slightly better defence
But if you think Gatti goes life and death Molina you are mistaken.
Glad you added the "lol" it belongs next to that statement.
You know Gatti is in the HOF, right? personal standards are very different from irl HOF standards.
Gatti is in the HOF because of how much he was loved/his early death and his 3 fights with Ward...not because as a fighter he deserved it.
When Lucas or Danny provide us with 3 of the best fights in boxing history we can talk
Get a ****ing grip Weebles. You are losing it. Your perspective is gone. Go sleep.
Gatti got in for his popularity and being a warrior who literally gave us numerous versions of the greatest fights ever seen in a boxing ring. Otherwise, he'd never have made it, despite being a more accomplished champion than both of these guys so far. He doesn't deserve it as a champion, but gets a pass for being arguably the greatest warrior and giving many of the greatest fights ever.
These guys haven't given us great fights in the scheme of things, and aren't even close to being historically great champions. Get a ****ing grip mate!
I respect your opinion but I have to ask in what world was Gatti some respected world champion. I mean with all things considered he beat absolutely no one.
I mean Lucas without even winning a belt is more accomplished than Gatti. Gatti was a club fighter and a HBO love child. He would be slaughtered by both Garica and Matthysee with relative ease.
Lucas vs Judah was a legit close fight that could have went either way. Wtf is up with the revisionist history? And I'm not even taking about weebler. We all know he's a shot poster since hatton KO in 9...
i disagree, i dont think there is any way you could give judah the fight
matthysse clearly wins rounds 5, 6, 9, 10(+kd), 11 and 12
to have judah winning that fight, is robbing matthysse
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