There have been a few changes in the RING P4P ratings this week. Froch moves to 6 from 8, GGG moves to 7 from 9, Kovalev to 8 from 10. Bradley drops to 9 from 6 and Marquez to 10 from 7.
Kovalev after dominat wins over hopkins and pascal should be ahead of ggg and froch.
agreed and I'm a bigger Froch fan. I think Froch is rightfully in the top 10 but Kovalev should be above him.
In all honesty, what is GGG doing in the top 10? lol
p4p Kovalev gets beaten by GGG, Pac, Floyd, Ward, Rigondeaux and names like Bradley give him good fights and might win too. Also, pound for pound is not based on mythical match-ups because by that logic fighters with talent can be number one pound for pound before they do anything. You can't base rankings on how people match up in impossible fights. Resume is the only criteria for anyone who knows boxing.
I disagree about all those fighters beating Kovalev, I have seen nothing to believe all those fighters can easily beat him like you're implying. Bradley??
Your point is valid, resume plays a pretty important part or else you'd have prospects who are KOing bums in 2 rounds ranked as top 5 in the world. I think it's a combination of both mythical match ups and resume that is used in P4P criteria. The mythical match up is primarily used for established guys, let's keep that in mind. Also, you favoring GGG over Kovalev is proving my point. GGG has beaten nobody of worth yet you're already saying he'd beat the more established fighter in Kovalev in a P4P mythical match up...."resume is the only criteria for anybody who knows boxing." :wave:
finally froch getting some respect. i actually have froch ranked #2 just behind wlad on my top ten p4p.
my top 5:
1. wlad
2. froch
3. pac
4. roman gonzalez
5. rigo
really, You have to have Mayweather in your top 3 , i hate them dude, but he is a top p4p fighter.
F*ck no. P4P Froch eats Kovalev's best shots for lunch and proceeds to badass his way to a stoppage victory.
you lost your mind, son. Groves had Froch in trouble , What do you think a bigger, harder-punching Kovalev will do. ?
I just can't see that, especially not this older version of Froch.
Exactly. Kovalev has some major skills boxing wise and can brawl/punch, dude is a multi-dimensional fighter and on that P4P fantasy realm he matches up well with just about anybody in the top 10.
p4p Kovalev gets beaten by GGG, Pac, Floyd, Ward, Rigondeaux and names like Bradley give him good fights and might win too. Also, pound for pound is not based on mythical match-ups because by that logic fighters with talent can be number one pound for pound before they do anything. You can't base rankings on how people match up in impossible fights. Resume is the only criteria for anyone who knows boxing.
I would keep Froch over Kovalev. Froch has had a solid career from early wins over Pascal & Taylor to the more recent Kessler, Bute, and Groves wins. Where Kovalev only has the Cleverly, Pascal, and Hopkins wins. Bernard being 50 years old and Pascal seemingly past his peak and a bit inactive doesn't give Kovalev quite the impact as it would a few years ago.
Pound for pound is just opinion and can't be proven right or wrong. If Ring thinks he is the 6th best pfp fighter in the world they have their reasons. I have him closer to 10th because he is easy to hit and getting old and past prime but maybe he deserves 6th place. There are some very good fighters in so many different weight classes so it's hard to compare them to fighters 50 pounds lighter or heavier.
Froch should have been in that position long ago, took Ring a long time to rank him as highly as he should be.
Froch's resume and last performance more than deserve it.
where's cotto on the list? hmmm you don't get respect for staging a sham fight against a man who needs major knee surgery and then follow that fight up by fighting geale instead of the man who ko'd geale?
Groves had froch in serious trouble and gave him all he could handle early in both fights. Froch would put up a valiant effort but kovolev would wreck an aging and worn down froch.. Serg hunted down hopkins with ease, and wrecked a very durable and gutsy pascal.. I think he beats froch
Froch needs no part of Kovalev.
GGG is a much different prospect.
I'm aware of that, reason why I stated that P4P (as in we make them fight each other weighing the same in fantasy land) I would favor Kovalev over Froch at the moment.
Sorry didn't see that.
I would favour Kovalev in that fight too. Probably by Bernard esque victory. Too strong and too good a boxer.
F*ck no. P4P Froch eats Kovalev's best shots for lunch and proceeds to badass his way to a stoppage victory.
I just can't see that, especially not this older version of Froch.
That as well. I find most people argue from the respective of resume which is wrong. If it is about mythical matchups I'd put kovalev in the top three.
Exactly. Kovalev has some major skills boxing wise and can brawl/punch, dude is a multi-dimensional fighter and on that P4P fantasy realm he matches up well with just about anybody in the top 10.
F*ck no. P4P Froch eats Kovalev's best shots for lunch and proceeds to badass his way to a stoppage victory.
Groves had froch in serious trouble and gave him all he could handle early in both fights. Froch would put up a valiant effort but kovolev would wreck an aging and worn down froch.. Serg hunted down hopkins with ease, and wrecked a very durable and gutsy pascal.. I think he beats froch
Not really ,since they aren't in the same weight division.
I'm aware of that, reason why I stated that P4P (as in we make them fight each other weighing the same in fantasy land) I would favor Kovalev over Froch at the moment.
P4P I'd pick Kovalev to defeat Froch, that's a main criteria of ranking fighters P4P.
That as well. I find most people argue from the respective of resume which is wrong. If it is about mythical matchups I'd put kovalev in the top three.
P4P I'd pick Kovalev to defeat Froch, that's a main criteria of ranking fighters P4P.
F*ck no. P4P Froch eats Kovalev's best shots for lunch and proceeds to badass his way to a stoppage victory.
Not really ,since they aren't in the same weight division.
Good to see Carl Froch, Sergey Kovalev and GGG getting the respect they deserve on P4P listings.
About time we move out guys like Tim Bradley or Marquez who haven't done anything for years.