Can you even call these guys elite level talent?

Would honestly put Kell Brook ahead of these guys, talent wise. You can argue that these guys are world class, as they clearly had the dedication and talent to get this far, holding belts re re. However what people fail to understand that at the elite level, there are several levels. Few elite boxers today are may, pac, andre ward, rigondeaux re re To add to that elite I say ggg,wlad and kovalev. Those euros are though....but yeah kell brook beats everybody on that list besides bradley and thurman.

Brook had a bloody nose where he could barely breathe...? What happened in the rematch? What ended up happening to Senchenko ultimately? Maybe those guys on the list can hurt and put leather on Brook too but will they be able to beat him? Porter was much better than those "guys" who put leather on Brook and what happened to Brook? The rematch was a 10 rounder, at a catch weight, this forced Jones to take more of an initiative. That performance in the rematch doesn't excuse the fact that Brook's chin and ability to recover is questionable. Also, I'm not sure Brook is gonna be able to make the weight healthy, Brook is stocky, too many question marks with Brook.

The chin isn't the issue. The issue is that he doesn't know how to hide it. He doesn't know how to use his attributes/abilities, etc etc. Hitman and Wlad "made it" with chin issues. Good points.

Brook was touched up by Jones, he took a lot of punishment in that one where as Rigondeaux has either been rocked/ or dropped but still maintained his dominance. Brook had a bloody nose where he could barely breathe...? What happened in the rematch? What ended up happening to Senchenko ultimately? Maybe those guys on the list can hurt and put leather on Brook too but will they be able to beat him? Porter was much better than those "guys" who put leather on Brook and what happened to Brook?

Rigo was put down by much lesser opposition than Doniare. Just saying. Brook was touched up by Jones, he took a lot of punishment in that one where as Rigondeaux has either been rocked/ or dropped but still maintained his dominance.

I'm not so sure, I still remember Carson Jones putting serious leather on him and Brook not recovering so well. I also remember Senchenko, a none puncher hurting him, as well as the guy he fought before Porter putting leather on him. I think Brook has looked good as of recent but I'm not so sure, Brook is stocky as fuck too, I wonder if he makes the weight well. Rigo was put down by much lesser opposition than Doniare. Just saying.

Believe it or not I think when all the smokes has clear and the field leveled, kell brooks will emerge the best of the bunch. He is definitely the most well rounded of his generation... I'm not so sure, I still remember Carson Jones putting serious leather on him and Brook not recovering so well. I also remember Senchenko, a none puncher hurting him, as well as the guy he fought before Porter putting leather on him. I think Brook has looked good as of recent but I'm not so sure, Brook is stocky as fuck too, I wonder if he makes the weight well.

Keith Thurman will be a superstar within the next two years. Stardom doesnt = elite Thurman has the best shot of all. And I firmly believe that he's in line to do so. He's certainly in the right lane. Bradley kinda borders there already, but I also think Tim has hit his ceiling. Very, very good fighter, but not a great one. Khan has ridiculous talent, talent in spades. But unless he magically shores up that chin issue, then he'll always be on the next tier down. The chin isn't the issue. The issue is that he doesn't know how to hide it. He doesn't know how to use his attributes/abilities, etc etc. Hitman and Wlad "made it" with chin issues.

Seriously the Vernon forest that beat mosley beats every guy on this list. The fernando Vargas that beat quartey beats every guy on this list.....there's light at the end of the tunnel felix Verdejo and spence seem to be the "REAL" deal I agree. and I will also throw in Jose Ramirez top 3 I am on the look out for. Felix Verdejo Errol Spence Jose Ramirez and gonna be the new class and raise back to the skill level.

Of the guys listed, Thurman , Bradley and khan , I would class as legit. They actually can be competitive with Floyd and manny. Bradley did win 4 rounds in the rematch.

Good point Lee quillin Peterson Garcia nowhere near Floyd or Mannys level Not even on same planet It's part of why ratings are low If you're not gonna brawl at least display elite skill and they aren't doing it Quillin and lee didn't fight like warriors Don't give a sh1t what anyone says They were having a staring contest And quillin talks about money in his interviews Why? I couldn't care less what you getting paid Just fight hard But you can't anymore Hasn't done so in his last few fights That's why guys like manny , Floyd, golovkin, kovalev, roman, Lucas, Bradley, Thurman amongst others deserve respect, they are a rare breed. They fight hard when need be.

Bradley has the most impressive resume of em all though

Would honestly put Kell Brook ahead of these guys, talent wise. You can argue that these guys are world class, as they clearly had the dedication and talent to get this far, holding belts re re. However what people fail to understand that at the elite level, there are several levels. Few elite boxers today are may, pac, andre ward, rigondeaux re re

On this forum almost every fighter I see is underrated. Just not necessarily in relation to the other big names. But by themselves, almost always underrated. People here can't even appreciate a good solid contender for what he is let alone guys with real world titles on their record. It's either future ATG or overrated hype job. Everyone on this list is world class capable on their best night. No less. If that isn't special, special doesn't mean anything. It doesn't mean they're all top ten p4p fighters in the sport or anything, but these are all people better at what they do than you'd have to guess most of the people on this damn forum.

DG may have peaked but he is still a top level fighter and has all the makings of a truly elite fighter. Khan and Bradley are already elite. The rest are at various stages I'm their careers

I only voted for Thurman, but I should have voted for Bradley as well but I hit submit & can't vote for him now. Khan would be if he had a better chin. That's his huge weakness. His win against Alexander was very good, but Alexander is only a slightly above average fighter. He needs to beat better opponents to prove he's an elite fighter. Broner already lost twice in my opinion to Maidana & de Leon so it's hard to say he's an elite fighter. The rest are decent fighters, but nowhere near elite level.

I think Lomachenko has elite level talent. I agree. He has an incredibly high ceiling.

Nah they're all good enough. They make up the 1% who get to the world class level in boxing. Not everybody can be Floyd or Pac but getting big fights and winning titles are great accomplishments for professional boxers. Emphasis on the bold because since Broner and Bradley's most recent losses .... what big fights/titles have they won? Zero Carlos Molina/Emanuel Taylor and John Molina are not big fights right now Broner is rated very high at Junior Welterweight .. despite having not beaten anyone in the top 10 ... how is that possible? I tend to agree with the following - "Amir Khan is the only quality boxer you listed, the rest are all over rated, low skill, low athleticism, " don't particularly care for the athleticism but right now I think guys like Broner/Garcia are just hiding behind good records lets see how Broner looks vs someone in the top 10 @ 140 and if Bradley-Porter comes off, that'd be a good fight for Tim to re-estabolish himself and gain some much needed momentum right now the only defense against these guys not being Elite/World Class is potential, which is pretty meaningless at the moment I'm talking in ring accomplishments ... and ya'll's response is to cite "oh they could be better" or etc

the fighters in the world that are truly elite floyd, manny, vlad, golovkin, ward, roman Gonzalez, probably kovalev and rigondeaux. these fighters would literally do well in any era. With a grand total of ZERO quality wins GGG is elite?

I think Lomachenko has elite level talent. Yes. He also has the chance to fight a really great list of opponents that if he beats them all would make for an ATG career.