so youre comparing floyd jr to Ali, and youre saying ali was a runner. lol youre the epitome of sstuuppppidddd
Ali and SRL used to run waaaay more people just have a habit of sweeping things like that, under the rug. Floyd never lands punches while running. He is a good mover, but not a good boxer/runner. Floyd normally stays on the outside, and outslicks df out of his opponents. With skills.
You seem like a good guy but I don't think you have boxed before.
1) size and power don't mean anything to Pacquiao, he has beat up men much larger and more powerful than Floyd.
2) don't give a SP angles? Marquez may be flat footed, but he was giving Pacquiao angles all night, constantly. An example of standing flat footed is Margarito. Floyd should certainly give Pacquiao angles.
3) "Pac is underestimating Floyd's power. He said he takes Cotto more serious than Floyd. Which is CHEAP thinking by Pac." What makes you say this? Pacquiao and roach said Floyd is an average puncher who has brittle hands and selectively throws. This is 100% true, Cotto is a lot more dangerous of a "puncher" than Floyd.
Your game plan of Floyd standing and trying to counter Manny takes guts, your realize Marquez has hit the canvas 5 times doing this? and been wobbled many other times? he takes risks to land big shots on Pacquiao, fortunately for him in the 4th outing he landed the big one. Terrible idea for Floyd to hope and land a big shot that Marquez managed in 40+ rounds of experience with Pacquiao. Floyd has never fought like this and never will.
Ok, now on to Floyds strengths:
Obviously he's hard to hit, and Manny doesn't like chasing opponents, although its obvious he used Algeri to practice against this. You can see Manny gets frustrated and neglects defense chasing Shane and Cotto near the end, these guys tasted pacs power and ran, Floyd has made running a career though so I'm sure he can find pockets to work in while running.
reach: for obvious reasons
Manny has been koed: he doesn't take the same risks anymore, he is a boxer puncher. The boxing part won't work
straight right, Manny gets hit by this shot and Floyd has a good one.
1. Size does mean something when your finally facing a REAL opponent. All of the opponents who were bigger than Pac, were bums. Pac never faced a young big guy in their prime. Cotto is the closest to it, and Cotto wasnt in his prime. JMM and Bradley are both the same size as Pac and their the only ones who stood and punched with him. Because of Floyd's size, and speed, if he fought the way JMM fought, he would batter Pac.
2. Stoopidazz I never said dont give a sp angles. I said if you USE FOOTWORK ON A SOUTHPAW, YOU WILL GIVE THEM EXTRA ANGLES. If you stand with them, how Floyd stood with his other sp's, you will take away their angles. This is what JMM did. If Floyd fought like JMM, he would batter Pac.
3. Pac let it be known that he feels he will win this fight easy. And yes he is underestimating Floyd. He is looking at Floyd, like all of Floyd's other opponents looked at him. Floyd is taking this fight serious, which gives him a slight mental edge.
4. Yes JMM hit the canvas with the way he fought Pac, but JMM isnt half the fighter Floyd is. Bradley stood and punched with Pac, and he never hit the canvas. Because of Floyd's skills, size, speed, he would batter Pac and dominate him. I dont think it would be a risk. I also dont think he understands how easier the fight would be. If he runs, he will look like Algeri. Pac hunting him down, using footwork, and having Floyd run into shots. Running, imo, would be more riskier, than beating him up. Pac is small and weak. He fast with power, but he dont have the size advantage to bully Floyd like Marcos. Floyd should really just beat him up if he wants an easy victory.
5. Floyd is a MOVER. But not a good boxer/mover. If u notice, guys like him and Hearns, can move around the ring, but when they throw those jabs on the outside, none of them land. Floyd doesnt land any of those punches when he runs.
He needs his feet set, and he can outbox you from the outside or midrange. I also think Pac has better defense than Marcos, and Floyd couldnt really land on Marcos.
6. Boxrec and tail of the tape always lie and claim that Floyd has these long arms. Everyone he fights, seems bigger, with waaay longer arms to me. I dont know who has longer reach out of him and Pac, but most likely, they are equal.
Not only that, but Pac's footwork, makes his reach, and height greater.
Mayweather sr is all about moving like Ali, his favorite fighter. Floyd will run. See his fight vs guerrero, Floyd looked like a track star.
so youre comparing floyd jr to Ali, and youre saying ali was a runner. lol youre the epitome of sstuuppppidddd
You seem like a good guy but I don't think you have boxed before.
1) size and power don't mean anything to Pacquiao, he has beat up men much larger and more powerful than Floyd.
2) don't give a SP angles? Marquez may be flat footed, but he was giving Pacquiao angles all night, constantly. An example of standing flat footed is Margarito. Floyd should certainly give Pacquiao angles.
3) "Pac is underestimating Floyd's power. He said he takes Cotto more serious than Floyd. Which is CHEAP thinking by Pac." What makes you say this? Pacquiao and roach said Floyd is an average puncher who has brittle hands and selectively throws. This is 100% true, Cotto is a lot more dangerous of a "puncher" than Floyd.
Your game plan of Floyd standing and trying to counter Manny takes guts, your realize Marquez has hit the canvas 5 times doing this? and been wobbled many other times? he takes risks to land big shots on Pacquiao, fortunately for him in the 4th outing he landed the big one. Terrible idea for Floyd to hope and land a big shot that Marquez managed in 40+ rounds of experience with Pacquiao. Floyd has never fought like this and never will.
Ok, now on to Floyds strengths:
Obviously he's hard to hit, and Manny doesn't like chasing opponents, although its obvious he used Algeri to practice against this. You can see Manny gets frustrated and neglects defense chasing Shane and Cotto near the end, these guys tasted pacs power and ran, Floyd has made running a career though so I'm sure he can find pockets to work in while running.
reach: for obvious reasons
Manny has been koed: he doesn't take the same risks anymore, he is a boxer puncher. The boxing part won't work
straight right, Manny gets hit by this shot and Floyd has a good one.
he obviously hasn't boxed before, he thinks standing infront of someone is taking away their angles
what power has manny shown in the last 5 years, that will have Floyd running? WHAT POWER are you guys talking about? Floyd took Mosley's best shot, the same shots that ko'd margacheato. he took maidana's best shot, which landed after the bell with no defense a, clean shot. But he needs to be worried about a guy who in recent fights have shown to not have power anymore, or maybe its because he's fighting at welterweight against a guy who's never been knocked down or out. He has nothing to run from. All he has to do is time manny "jumping" in. im convinced, he's gonna catch manny and they are gonna do it again to make this amount of money again. Cause after this payday, Manny will pay his debts and still be broke (he owes over 77milion in taxes and jesus is not going to pay it for him)
"Running" takes lots of stamina. I think Mayweather will mix it up in there, with movement and laying on the ropes to rest.
I think you will see Floyd dipping that straight left of Manny and use some clinching. He will stall the offense of Manny coming in with that tactic.
If he runs, he's doing half of Manny's job for him. Floyd throws far less when he runs, so while he may land at a higher connect %, Manny will land more overall punches. Won't look good to the judges or the viewing audience if he starts dancing.
And yeah, if you think for 1 second that Floyd gives a **** if this mega fight turns boring, then you're sadly mistaken.
This is Floyd/Hatton, except imagine Hatton being able punch like an elite swarmer.
Floyd, you should abandon what got you all this money and an undefeated record and become a brawler in your 48th professional fight. Nevermind defense, you should do things you normally dont do. Dont do things that will get you a win, do things that your enemies want you to do. If any of you coach young children, yeah teach them that. You see what happened to the Seahawks, when they did something different than going to their strength. Nah, you have the running back and running game, you should pass! that worked out great. :notworthy
so Ali was a runner? or boxer. So floyd runs like Ali, so youre saying Floyd boxes like Ali. The goal of a competition is for someone to WIN. Im sorry you dont understand this, yeah you should just stand still in front of each other and swing away, thats not boxing either. Why work on defense in training, cause youre not supposed to use that aspect of competition, its boring to win. I guess when you get ko'd a few times you have to look at it that way. Maybe thats why he loses alot, but he looked good doing it doe. and thats all that matters, if you look good, never-mind winning. Floyd shouldnt care about winning, just looking good for the fans.....as a competitor you dont know how STUPID you sound. I'd love to compete against a person like you, I guarantee im gonna win. :soapbox:
He might not walk down Pacman but SR was the one telling Floyd to keep walking to Canelo. He shoulder rolled the shiat out of Canelo and walked him down. Sr was the one directing traffic. Now I dont think that happens with Pacman. But I want to see some more interviews to get a read on Floyd.
He always lets it be known that he wants to be aggressive. He WANTS to, but fighting bigger younger men, the fights dont play out like that. He seems like he is going to run on this one, but I want to see more interviews and see if he changes his mind.
His best way to beat Pac, is to stand and punch with Pac like JMM. Because of his size, skills, and speed, he would beat df out of Pac. But I dont think he realizes that. He thinks that because of pac's offense, he must potshot and run.
You NEVER use footwork on a sp because you give them extra angles. Pac already has terriffic angles. Floyd would be better off standing, and JMM and Bradley showed that its easy. Maybe not easy for them, but Bradley didnt really get bruised too bad.
And even if he did, Floyd is twice Bradley's speed, power, skills, size. I hope Floyd realizes this. It would be amazing if he overpowered Pac, and battered him come May 2nd.
Pac is underestimating Floyd's power. He said he takes Cotto more serious than Floyd. Which is CHEAP thinking by Pac.
But Floyd is taking this fight serious. He says he has NEVER wanted to win a fight this bad in his life. While I dont know who will win, Mentally Floyd is in the right Place.
Pac, like all the rest, is looking at Floyd's lack of power, and saying, this will be easy. I cant wait to see what happens!!
You seem like a good guy but I don't think you have boxed before.
1) size and power don't mean anything to Pacquiao, he has beat up men much larger and more powerful than Floyd.
2) don't give a SP angles? Marquez may be flat footed, but he was giving Pacquiao angles all night, constantly. An example of standing flat footed is Margarito. Floyd should certainly give Pacquiao angles.
3) "Pac is underestimating Floyd's power. He said he takes Cotto more serious than Floyd. Which is CHEAP thinking by Pac." What makes you say this? Pacquiao and roach said Floyd is an average puncher who has brittle hands and selectively throws. This is 100% true, Cotto is a lot more dangerous of a "puncher" than Floyd.
Your game plan of Floyd standing and trying to counter Manny takes guts, your realize Marquez has hit the canvas 5 times doing this? and been wobbled many other times? he takes risks to land big shots on Pacquiao, fortunately for him in the 4th outing he landed the big one. Terrible idea for Floyd to hope and land a big shot that Marquez managed in 40+ rounds of experience with Pacquiao. Floyd has never fought like this and never will.
Ok, now on to Floyds strengths:
Obviously he's hard to hit, and Manny doesn't like chasing opponents, although its obvious he used Algeri to practice against this. You can see Manny gets frustrated and neglects defense chasing Shane and Cotto near the end, these guys tasted pacs power and ran, Floyd has made running a career though so I'm sure he can find pockets to work in while running.
reach: for obvious reasons
Manny has been koed: he doesn't take the same risks anymore, he is a boxer puncher. The boxing part won't work
straight right, Manny gets hit by this shot and Floyd has a good one.
Pacquiao better cut the ring or he is going to get out pointed real bad. I am not sure Pacquiao has it in him to cut the ring the way you have to against Mayweather but the advantage Pacquiao has is his speed, he might be able to make Floyd pay for the mistakes he makes unlike slower fighers Mayweather has faced in recent years.
Pacquiao has been facing guys like Bradley recently who have hands speed while Mayweather has been facing guys like Guerrero and Maidana who are slow so Mayweather better be ready for a whole different animal than those guys.
Mayweather sr is all about moving like Ali, his favorite fighter. Floyd will run. See his fight vs guerrero, Floyd looked like a track star.
He might not walk down Pacman but SR was the one telling Floyd to keep walking to Canelo. He shoulder rolled the shiat out of Canelo and walked him down. Sr was the one directing traffic. Now I dont think that happens with Pacman. But I want to see some more interviews to get a read on Floyd.
He always lets it be known that he wants to be aggressive. He WANTS to, but fighting bigger younger men, the fights dont play out like that. He seems like he is going to run on this one, but I want to see more interviews and see if he changes his mind.
His best way to beat Pac, is to stand and punch with Pac like JMM. Because of his size, skills, and speed, he would beat df out of Pac. But I dont think he realizes that. He thinks that because of pac's offense, he must potshot and run.
You NEVER use footwork on a sp because you give them extra angles. Pac already has terriffic angles. Floyd would be better off standing, and JMM and Bradley showed that its easy. Maybe not easy for them, but Bradley didnt really get bruised too bad.
And even if he did, Floyd is twice Bradley's speed, power, skills, size. I hope Floyd realizes this. It would be amazing if he overpowered Pac, and battered him come May 2nd.
Pac is underestimating Floyd's power. He said he takes Cotto more serious than Floyd. Which is CHEAP thinking by Pac.
But Floyd is taking this fight serious. He says he has NEVER wanted to win a fight this bad in his life. While I dont know who will win, Mentally Floyd is in the right Place.
Pac, like all the rest, is looking at Floyd's lack of power, and saying, this will be easy. I cant wait to see what happens!!
Mayweather will stand in front of Pacquiao he will use the ring box he'll give Pacquiao different looks throughout the fight
Any game plan involving Floyd standing within range of Pacquiaos straight left is a bad one. Marquez did figure out some feints and things to keep Pacquiao from landing it consistently, but he mainly did it with offense. The straight left knocked JMM on his ass 3 times in the first round when they met the first time. It's a very fast shot. Floyd will have to make some adjustments real damn fast.
I think Floyd will get on his bike 100% and tire Manny out, score points late.
Although both have them have faded equally, Pacquiao is the one who will have to work harder, he's the aggressor due to the reach disadvantage.
When he goes on bike mode he's nearly unhittable but he also misses a hell of a lot more, still I think it's his best chance vs Pac. If he can do that at 38.
I can almost guarentee he won't fight flat footed vs Pac, but Pacs pretty fast on his feet as well so it should be good.
People are using the argument that Floyd makes adjustments and figures opponents out, but it's easy to do that when you have a speed advantage. This time around will be truly interesting
Mayweather will stand in front of Pacquiao he will use the ring box he'll give Pacquiao different looks throughout the fight
I really hope Floyd doesn't make "The Fight of the Century" a boring fight . If he does decide to run the whole night boxing's future will be fuked for awhile. The hype for this fight is unbelievable. Casuals think this is gonna be some Hagler-Hearns type ****
This, I don't like Mayweather but if he wins by knockout (doubt it, guy is safety first, he has said it himself) I will be pretty happy. Will give boxing a big boost, because people are not generally interested in boxing matches they are interested in fights.
When he goes on bike mode he's nearly unhittable but he also misses a hell of a lot more, still I think it's his best chance vs Pac. If he can do that at 38.
I can almost guarentee he won't fight flat footed vs Pac, but Pacs pretty fast on his feet as well so it should be good.
People are using the argument that Floyd makes adjustments and figures opponents out, but it's easy to do that when you have a speed advantage. This time around will be truly interesting