Just a thread which needs to be seperate from the master thread as its a petition if you will
Just write
Manny needs to wear punchers gloves or this fight is pointless
or
Health comes first,18oz glove superfight... take my money:boxing:
well there will always be a question mark and sh*tty feeling around the fight if mayweather wins while not allowing pacquiao to be at his best. let both guys be at their best and most comfortable and wear whatever gloves they want.
Yes it does work the other way around even if Floyd's main objective is to score points.
With a less padded glove like Reyes he could fracture or break his hand hitting De La Hoya's noggin a lot easier and I wouldn't even think much of it because it's notoriously easy to hurt your hands in Reyes gloves; whereas Winning's are so well padded around the knuckles I would barely think it's possible to hurt your just simply hitting someone in the face barring something going horribly wrong.
For someone with brittle hands that has to go 12 rounds guaranteed pretty much every time I would think his hands health over 12 rounds would be just as important as some unskilled slugger's dependence on his power.
That's a really great analysis
So you're not for padded gloves if Mayweather tries to implement it because I've got the vibe you're defending it with the "it won't affect the outcome" argument
You are defending it,what are you on about?
And what are you talking about.. Floyd wasn't forced to wear extra padded gloves that makes no sense going back to the ODH fight because it wouldn't affect the damage outcome
De La Hoya wanted Reyes brand, the "puncher's glove." Even though Mayweather always wears Winning brand.
Doesn't affect the damage Floyd could do and guess what,I don't agree with it.they should both have been able to wear their gloves of choice if sanctioned... so Oscar can go **** himself ok Dunn?:bottle:
just because ODH put it in a contract with Floyd,Floyd deserves the right to **** Manny with padded gloves and posssibly take away a major gamechanger which is his power?
Yes it does work the other way around even if Floyd's main objective is to score points.
With a less padded glove like Reyes he could fracture or break his hand hitting De La Hoya's noggin a lot easier and I wouldn't even think much of it because it's notoriously easy to hurt your hands in Reyes gloves; whereas Winning's are so well padded around the knuckles I would barely think it's possible to hurt your just simply hitting someone in the face barring something going horribly wrong.
For someone with brittle hands that has to go 12 rounds guaranteed pretty much every time I would think his hands health over 12 rounds would be just as important as some unskilled slugger's dependence on his power.
Is this ACTUALLY a issue??
I don't remember seeing anything about Mayweather not wanting Manny to weak any specific type of gloves.
I know he did for the Maidana fight, but lets be fair, those custom gloves had no padding, did you see how they twisted like a wet rag or sock?
8oz gloves are not pillows.
I would generally struggle to call any 8 oz. gloves pillows, but all 8 oz. gloves are not created equally. The padding in Winning 8 oz for example spread the impact of the blows out a lot more due to the composition of the glove. The foam is high quality as well so they'll generally hold throughout an entire fight and you're less likely to be cut.
The leather/material for competition Reyes(The horsehair not the foam Reyes) on the other hand break's down fast. As the fight wears on and the material breaks down the sting from the punches will feel worse and worse.
Let Manny wear his type of gloves, and let Mayweather wear his. Let them use their own preferences.
Just like how Manny uses puncher's gloves to allow him to utilize his punching power, Mayweather uses his padded gloves so his hands don't get hurt easily, therefore improving his boxing game as well. Imagine if Floyd wasn't wearing the gloves he usually wears and fractures his hand in the middle of the fight?
If you have to wear "punchers gloves" to win a fight or gain an advantage then you are the lesser fighter. When it comes down to it, you still have to land the punch. That tells me that trying to outbox the opponent is out of the question.
So you're not for padded gloves if Mayweather tries to implement it because I've got the vibe you're defending it with the "it won't affect the outcome" argument
You are defending it,what are you on about?
And what are you talking about.. Floyd wasn't forced to wear extra padded gloves that makes no sense going back to the ODH fight because it wouldn't affect the damage outcome
De La Hoya wanted Reyes brand, the "puncher's glove." Even though Mayweather always wears Winning brand.
Doesn't affect the damage Floyd could do and guess what,I don't agree with it.they should both have been able to wear their gloves of choice if sanctioned... so Oscar can go **** himself ok Dunn?:bottle:
just because ODH put it in a contract with Floyd,Floyd deserves the right to **** Manny with padded gloves and posssibly take away a major gamechanger which is his power?
Disagreeing with your thread point is not defending. I answered questions you asked directly and respectfully. Then you come with defending Floyd. My initial points were about glove choice made by any a side/bigger draw in any fight and what i see as excuse making by a certain group of posters.
You are narrowing it to only non punchers gloves. I wasn't. Besides, I pointed out the glove issue has already been resolved for the fight.
We can agree to disagree. Should Floyd win and you use this to take credit away, so be it. Great fighters, like Floyd and others, have won fights when their gloves have been selected.
If Manny doesn't win the only reason is because Floyd is better, not because of what material and how much is inside his gloves.
I explained to you the glove situation in ODH/Floyd, it wasn't a color. That was 2007, check Floyd's ko % going into that fight. How do you know Floyd's gameplan in that fight?
I thought we were having a discussion. I thought it was a good, respectable one.Since you feel the need to call it tirelessly defending Floyd, then there is no need to continue. Enjoy the fight.
So you're not for padded gloves if Mayweather tries to implement it because I've got the vibe you're defending it with the "it won't affect the outcome" argument
You are defending it,what are you on about?
And what are you talking about.. Floyd wasn't forced to wear extra padded gloves that makes no sense going back to the ODH fight because it wouldn't affect the damage outcome
De La Hoya wanted Reyes brand, the "puncher's glove." Even though Mayweather always wears Winning brand.
Doesn't affect the damage Floyd could do and guess what,I don't agree with it.they should both have been able to wear their gloves of choice if sanctioned... so Oscar can go **** himself ok Dunn?:bottle:
just because ODH put it in a contract with Floyd,Floyd deserves the right to **** Manny with padded gloves and posssibly take away a major gamechanger which is his power?
what are you talking about ,trying to twist what I'm saying... the Pacquiao Morales 1 fight was exciting because of the volume thrown...but the outcome had Manny been wearing the Reyes could have been totally different,its often overlooked because in the second and third fight he was able to wear the Reyes,some might say because he got to wear those gloves in the second and third fight it actually proves the outcome of the first fight would have been different
Have you ever worn foam gloves and used them on say a heavybag?they spread the power of shots and take steam out of shots
and I can't answer the ODH,Floyd fight because I don't know that situation but I do know the only effect it would have on Floyd would be minor as opposed to what he pushed on Maidana to try and take power away from his shots
Floyd could wear any gloves because his whole fight plan is to score points (not damage and Ko)
P.S if the gloves they use are no big deal then why tirelessly defend Floyds actions of pushing extra padded gloves on fighters?
I explained to you the glove situation in ODH/Floyd, it wasn't a color. That was 2007, check Floyd's ko % going into that fight. How do you know Floyd's gameplan in that fight?
I thought we were having a discussion. I thought it was a good, respectable one.Since you feel the need to call it tirelessly defending Floyd, then there is no need to continue. Enjoy the fight.
Floyd is seriously a little bltch. Pathetic. Fighting a plodder no skilled fighter who relies in his power like Maidana, and then forcing him to wear pillows at the last hour.
It's incredible how cowardly and pathetic Floyd is. His legacy has been ruined. Biggest coward in boxing.
and yet u get carpal tunnel tapping out response after response on all things Mayweather....
Floyd is seriously a little bltch. Pathetic. Fighting a plodder no skilled fighter who relies in his power like Maidana, and then forcing him to wear pillows at the last hour.
It's incredible how cowardly and pathetic Floyd is. His legacy has been ruined. Biggest coward in boxing.
Bottom line, Maidana was in a position where he could not afford to refuse. Pacquiao can afford to refuse, if they accept Floyd's b/s it's their own fault.
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