Golovkin's boxing skills are really underrated.

I just don't see what others do. I think his power against subpar opposition has stopped those glaring flaws showing up. He doesn't impress me despite being head and shoulders above all the other middleweights which in truth are rubbish. This is partially my feelings as well. I won't stamp greatness on him yet until he faces true elites in his division and blows them away like has has the subpar. I also don't think him beating a blown up welterweight in Cotto would be anything to judge his greatness on if that fight comes to fruition. I really like the guys style and power, but I'm dying to see him fight some real competition for once. Murray isn't bad as far as size goes, but he doesn't have much to probably keep GGG off him.

Waiting until Golovkin fights some one good is like waiting until you turn 18 years old to get a job. It just feels like it's so far away. And this guy is looking down to 154lb guys now, after eliminating the garbage that is at 160. His fans actually think defeating Cotto or Canelo will prove his doubters wrong too, that's the thing. Go up to 168 already, damn, every time a new Golovkin opponent is announced, I yawn. Geale? I yawned, he lost to Barker. Rosado, Ishida?, Adama?, Stevens, Rubio, Macklin off a TKO loss and 1 KO win over a journeyman, borrrrrrring. Then there is the most boring and false statement of them all, "Nobody wants to fight him". Yeah, "Nobody" meaning Mayweather, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao. Damn it really burns you deep inside to see a non black gain significant traction in the boxing world.

Waiting until Golovkin fights some one good is like waiting until you turn 18 years old to get a job. It just feels like it's so far away. And this guy is looking down to 154lb guys now, after eliminating the garbage that is at 160. His fans actually think defeating Cotto or Canelo will prove his doubters wrong too, that's the thing. Go up to 168 already, damn, every time a new Golovkin opponent is announced, I yawn. Geale? I yawned, he lost to Barker. Rosado, Ishida?, Adama?, Stevens, Rubio, Macklin off a TKO loss and 1 KO win over a journeyman, borrrrrrring. Then there is the most boring and false statement of them all, "Nobody wants to fight him". Yeah, "Nobody" meaning Mayweather, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao. Quillin wants an extra serving of GGG, right? Who is at 168 that could possibly give GGG a test right now, other than Ward? Abraham? Froch? Chavez Jr? Sturm? Steiglitz? Either Dirrell? Gtfoh. Even if he did move up and creamed the top 10 there, it wouldn't be enough. "The competition weak doe" The excuses would be the same. The guy fights pretty much anyone willing to step up to the plate at 160, 3-4 times a year, comes to knock people's head off their shoulders, and that's still not enough to earn you fans. Haters gonna hate.

Waiting until Golovkin fights some one good is like waiting until you turn 18 years old to get a job. It just feels like it's so far away. And this guy is looking down to 154lb guys now, after eliminating the garbage that is at 160. His fans actually think defeating Cotto or Canelo will prove his doubters wrong too, that's the thing. Go up to 168 already, damn, every time a new Golovkin opponent is announced, I yawn. Geale? I yawned, he lost to Barker. Rosado, Ishida?, Adama?, Stevens, Rubio, Macklin off a TKO loss and 1 KO win over a journeyman, borrrrrrring. Then there is the most boring and false statement of them all, "Nobody wants to fight him". Yeah, "Nobody" meaning Mayweather, Canelo, Cotto, Pacquiao.

ggg still has ouma problems On the contrary ... Ouma still has Golovkin problems. Despite making it a close fight for the first 7 or 8 rnds the beating that GGG laid on Kassim hospitalised him and effectively ended his career. Wasn't GGG at his best for reasons that have been gone over many times but it did show me that even when things aren't going GGGs way he has the resolve to dig deep and simply grind a way to the win if necessary.

Yeah, IMO His division isn't deep enough to test or develope him. I agree He beats Canelo, not sure about the stoppage though. Canelo can take shots for twelve rounds as we've seen. But aside from Kassim Ouma, we still have no idea if GGG's power will carry over into the Championship Rounds or adapt under sustained pressure. I don't know if Canelo can take his shots but if he can than maybe he has a good chance of winning. I do think GGG stops him. But yeah, you're right. The 160lb division lacks those fighters who can test GGG in various ways. I maintain that what's hurting the sport today isn't the lack of top fighters but the lack of good contenders. The Oba Carr/Angel Manfredy types who would test some portion of your game. No disrespect to a Peter Quillin but he'd make for a solid contender. Instead, today he's a champ getting seven-figure paydays.

He'll need the kind the quality of opponent to justify what his skills are. People thought Jeff Lacy was a guy with skills. Even putting opposition to one side, there's a visible difference between watching David Lemiuex and Golovkin. Lemieux is a banger, Golovkin can't be dismissed as just that, the skill level is evident.

He'll need the kind the quality of opponent to justify what his skills are. People thought Jeff Lacy was a guy with skills.

YEah I say his skills is underrated cos people only know him as the 'KO King of Kazazkistan" but who need skills when you can knock everybody out with one punch?

Reaching as usual. Stevens was a 21-22 year old kid when he got upset by Primera, that's allowed to happen. Same way Ward nearly got stopped at the same age by Boone (if there had been more than 20 seconds left in the round Ward would've had his first loss). Against N'Dam, Stevens was swinging wild and got reaching out of desperation when N'Dam caught and dropped him. Very different context to how the Golovkin fight went down. You have got to be kidding. Primera was 19-15 coming off a 5 loss streak :eek:

I think Canelo could make it a good scrap and might frustrate him a bit but would get stopped. If Ward is still Ward, I think he beats GGG up. GGG is an offensive machine who hasn't been made to think twice when coming forward or forced to go to plan B. I don't see anyone at 160 or below doing either enough to beat him. Yeah, IMO His division isn't deep enough to test or develope him. I agree He beats Canelo, not sure about the stoppage though. Canelo can take shots for twelve rounds as we've seen. But aside from Kassim Ouma, we still have no idea if GGG's power will carry over into the Championship Rounds or adapt under sustained pressure.

Golovkin's inside fighting style is OK... But, yes, I agree: Ward is able to frustrate him -- by excessive holding and wrestling (accepted by the ref), Ward would prevent Golovkin from moving the way he wants to in order to load. Therefore: I have Ward winning such a fight. (But, lately, Golovkin said he is going to take extensive drug tests and he asked all his possible opponents to do the same... And as I remember, Ward never took a VADA programme for instance.) 1)All I've seen is where they're willing to do advanced testing but thus far haven't. 2) It's pointless anyways. It's the out of competition testing that really matters, as guys use PEDs to reach an advanced level of training and then cycle off of the medications prior to competition. One thing that could be said in Golovkin's defense on that matter is that he's so active he wouldn't have time to cycle on and off such drugs. 1) Golovkin made his "extensive drug tests" statement following Ward's numerous calls to fight him next... After Golovkin's statement Ward stopped calling him (as I have noticed). 2) I agree with you on the issue that the top athletes (in boxing, because this is the sport under discussion here) are on PEDS.

oh please. marcos primera also stopped stevens. Is he as good as GGG? Even featherfisted nadam dropped stevens and had him pretty hurt. So GGG is this type of monster puncher and nadam the feather fist. really? Reaching as usual. Stevens was a 21-22 year old kid when he got upset by Primera, that's allowed to happen. Same way Ward nearly got stopped at the same age by Boone (if there had been more than 20 seconds left in the round Ward would've had his first loss). Against N'Dam, Stevens was swinging wild and got reaching out of desperation when N'Dam caught and dropped him. Very different context to how the Golovkin fight went down.

I disagree if anything he's overrated people talk like he's an ATG already when he really has beat nobody. That didn't stop posters here saying the same thing about Rigo prior to him beating Donaire.

Golovkin's inside fighting style is OK... But, yes, I agree: Ward is able to frustrate him -- by excessive holding and wrestling (accepted by the ref), Ward would prevent Golovkin from moving the way he wants to in order to load. Therefore: I have Ward winning such a fight. (But, lately, Golovkin said he is going to take extensive drug tests and he asked all his possible opponents to do the same... And as I remember, Ward never took a VADA programme for instance.) All I've seen is where they're willing to do advanced testing but thus far haven't. It's pointless anyways. It's the out of competition testing that really matters, as guys use PEDs to reach an advanced level of training and then cycle off of the medications prior to competition. One thing that could be said in Golovkin's defense on that matter is that he's so active he wouldn't have time to cycle on and off such drugs.

Yeah, because standing and trading with Curtis Stevens is what a smart fighter would do. lol Ever notice when GGG steps back out of range, the opponent doesn't follow too closely? I wonder why that is? GGG is a smart fighter, not a face first brawler. oh please. marcos primera also stopped stevens. Is he as good as GGG? Even featherfisted nadam dropped stevens and had him pretty hurt. So GGG is this type of monster puncher and nadam the feather fist. really?

You don't think Canelo would test him? I think it's a great matchup. I think Canelo could make it a good scrap and might frustrate him a bit but would get stopped. If Ward is still Ward, I think he beats GGG up. GGG is an offensive machine who hasn't been made to think twice when coming forward or forced to go to plan B. I don't see anyone at 160 or below doing either enough to beat him.

He does his style pretty well, managing to both plant himself for punching power and still cut off the ring well in pressuring opponents. Not an easy mix to perfect. He reminds me most of Julio Cesar Chavez in that regard. His problems will probably come with the first really good hit-n-run artist he comes across (don't see any on the horizon at 160) or Andre Ward at 168 should he have to go there for a payday.. You took the words right out of my mouth. He reminds me of Chavez quite a bit, albeit a very poor man's version.

Just because you're an Olympic Silver Medalist doesn't entail that you can automatically fight well on the backfoot. Amir Khan is a Silver Medalist and he couldn't fight on the inside for sh1t. I haven't really seen Golovkin be forced backwards often. There were a couple of times in the Curtis Stevens fight where he was backed up and didn't really look good. He just took punches. It means that he has a pretty good boxing foundation as amateur boxing has always been "hit and run(dont get hit)"

I don't know who underrates them. I hear this moaning about the underappreciation of GGG's skills for a long time. Seriously, we're talking about one of the (if not the) most hyped fighters and some people still complain about Golovkin is being underrated? Please stop...