Guys like Golovkin, Matthysse and so on aren't exactly big guys but both have crazy knockout power whereas you have guys like Tim Bradley who has abs on his back but isn't known for his punching power. So where exactly does it come from? Core, Legs, Muscles?
Golovkin gets his power from shifting his weight. Kovalev does the same thing.
That's why their opponents get hurt by punches that don't look that hard.
I recommend everyone in this thread to read Dempsey's Championship Fighting:Explosive Punching, a lot of techniques are outdated but definitely not punching technique. He explicitly states that punchers are not born not made, but that big punchers in their "arrogance" forget that they learn to punch little by little as they grow up. He actually cites that he had to think all the way back to his childhood to remember what made him punch that way. In a way punchers are bred, although I think that some people have an aptitude for punching and of course genes matter, but they are not everything.
LMAO, best reply so far.
As to the power thing...I think legs have something to do with it true but look at a guy like Kelly Pavlik. That guy was a rail form top to bottom but he could punch your lights out. Martinez said that when he got hit by Pavlik, he was actually a little scared because it was like getting hit with a hammer he hit so hard.
If you look at Pavlik, he planted his feet when he threw punches and he followed through with the punch. He also punched in straight lines most of the time, allowing his fist to accelerate from point A to point B in the shortest distance possible. Also, the guys that have a lot of power, seem to have good balance which would indicate that they can shift their body weight into their punches as they punch.
Andy Lee is another example of a rail thin guy (thin legs) who is an obscenely strong puncher given his frame. So, I would have to venture to guess that it has to be more than big legs. It makes sense to me that is has more to do with transfer of weight, leverage and technique.
Bone density is the factor here, the skinny guys with low body fat and not much muscle bulk have dense bones.
No it's not.
You think it's any coincidence that almost every HOFer and ATG had above average power. Very few of the greats were featherfisted.
You have a Point and yes many of them did absolutely but it wasn't "JUST ABOUT POWER" for Majority of them that is why I also mentioned "TIMING" Ali is a great example of having that Timing that can put even Tanks like George Foreman on the Canvas! They had SKILLS to go with their Power and that is a HUGE DIFFERENCE! Now it is fighters and fans who fighters to just fight with ALL POWER and nothing in between.
So I will reword that and instead Post "Power Is The Most Overrated Attribute In Boxing If You Don't Know How To Use It"!
Technique and committing to the punch are what cause power.
I hate it when ppl say its natural. How can two fighters that weight the same have completely different punching power?
Lets take GGG for example... Look how rotates his foot, hips, shoulders into his punches. On top of that he plants his feet and fully commits to the punch, he's actually trying to KYTFO!
Now lets take Mayweather. He relies on defence, therefore he cant fully commit and sit down on his punches as he likes to stay out of range of his opponents.
If Mayweather was to commit to and rotate fully like GGG he would have more power although he would take more fire coming back in his direction.
Punch power comes from technique and commitment to the punch.
They all stole their power from paullie and didn't leave him any....
LMAO, best reply so far.
As to the power thing...I think legs have something to do with it true but look at a guy like Kelly Pavlik. That guy was a rail form top to bottom but he could punch your lights out. Martinez said that when he got hit by Pavlik, he was actually a little scared because it was like getting hit with a hammer he hit so hard.
If you look at Pavlik, he planted his feet when he threw punches and he followed through with the punch. He also punched in straight lines most of the time, allowing his fist to accelerate from point A to point B in the shortest distance possible. Also, the guys that have a lot of power, seem to have good balance which would indicate that they can shift their body weight into their punches as they punch.
Andy Lee is another example of a rail thin guy (thin legs) who is an obscenely strong puncher given his frame. So, I would have to venture to guess that it has to be more than big legs. It makes sense to me that is has more to do with transfer of weight, leverage and technique.
"POWER" is hands down the most Overrated Attribute In Boxing! But Power and a Good Chin is something I think you're born with.
It is like that kid who while everybody works extra hard and try to get better...he just shows up at the gym and embarrass everybody and just seems like a natural at everything...those are what most call "GIFTED FIGHTERS"
But forget Power, Timing is far more important and does the most damage! It doesn't matter how much Power you have or Don't Have or how good a chin the opponent has! If you catch him with something he doesn't see coming he will go down. This also makes guys with good reflexes, hard to knock out or even down for that matter.
But yeah, POWER is something that EITHER YOU HAVE OR YOUR DON'T! If it was possible to GAIN it NATURALLY then more fighters would be doing what ever that is to GAIN IT!
No it's not.
You think it's any coincidence that almost every HOFer and ATG had above average power. Very few of the greats were featherfisted.
Ignorant people ? Dude ur a biomedical student which means ur at least 19 . And the fact that ur 19 (at. Least ) , have only 4 amateur fights and go to college means its just a hobby for u .
Err...In England we start university at 18 after two years in sixth form. I said I know where it comes from, doesn't mean I'm a hard puncher (I'm not). I was replying to that guy who claimed I've never laced a pair. No need for anyone to get offended. I was born in May, 1996, you do the maths.
I'm an amateur boxer 4-0 and biomed student, I know exactly the answer of the question, I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Pshh ignorant people, what is the world coming too.
Ignorant people ? Dude ur a biomedical student which means ur at least 19 . And the fact that ur 19 (at. Least ) , have only 4 amateur fights and go to college means its just a hobby for u .
Who the hell is that girl in your sig??
That has got to be one of the hottest *****es I've ever seen! lol
C'mon she's pretty and has a nice rack , but hot ? I guess its an opinion . I personally think girls with a pretty face ," NICE ASS" and a decent rack are hot . From the front She looks like she's seriously lacking in the ass department . But hey , whatever floats ur boat buddy .
"POWER" is hands down the most Overrated Attribute In Boxing! But Power and a Good Chin is something I think you're born with.
It is like that kid who while everybody works extra hard and try to get better...he just shows up at the gym and embarrass everybody and just seems like a natural at everything...those are what most call "GIFTED FIGHTERS"
But forget Power, Timing is far more important and does the most damage! It doesn't matter how much Power you have or Don't Have or how good a chin the opponent has! If you catch him with something he doesn't see coming he will go down. This also makes guys with good reflexes, hard to knock out or even down for that matter.
But yeah, POWER is something that EITHER YOU HAVE OR YOUR DON'T! If it was possible to GAIN it NATURALLY then more fighters would be doing what ever that is to GAIN IT!
I'm an amateur boxer 4-0 and biomed student, I know exactly the answer of the question, I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Pshh ignorant people, what is the world coming too.
Oh we have a biomed student, 4-0 amateur who will show us the way to punching power. That's very good.
I'm an amateur boxer 4-0 and biomed student, I know exactly the answer of the question, I wanted to see what everyone else thought. Pshh ignorant people, what is the world coming too.
so what is the answer? remember boxers are not that smart they need real good trainers. so you may not have all the answers. try to find a good trainer and listen to him