Cotto Paper champ at 160

He's the lineal champ. But being the lineal champ doesn't translate him being the best mw. Bingo!! Specially if it's only one fight that was at a catch weight.

Cotto is the lineal champion , but doesn't belong at MW. Forget the Martinez fight, does anybody truly believe that Cotto would beat Golovkin?. He's using the belt for leverage, he should either fight MW's or vacate, but he won't do so I'm afraid.

Lets be honest, he lost to trout then beat a nobody in Rodriguez and a crippled Martinez and people think he's better than ever. Sure he looke good but that win is (I'm sorry to say it) but no more credible than Rios beating Alvarado. He beat the man, no excuses given except your retarded ones....gtfoh kid

Sorry dude, I forgot the wink at the end of the comment I was being sarcastic. theres a quote floating around here that goes something like ''if you are undefeated you haven't fought the best''. The only great who is undefeated today is Floyd everyone else who is either great or very good have loses on their record including the man who is about to beat Floyd Pac. Cotto has been consistently entertaining even when losing. True. Floyd needs to realize that the fans don't actually care about an undefeated record. Who cares about the fact that Ali lost? Or sugar Ray Robinson? Or Leonard? History remembers that they fought everyone and mostly won.

Someone should post that GIF of Martinez sprinting across the ring to cheap shot Cotto, lol. "Martinez was crippled doe" :dunce: http://i.minus.com/ibyipUoXrsMyqh.gif

A bit harsh to say he ducked people. He has losses on his record because he did take risks. Margarito was a feared fighter when Cotto faced him. Pacman was on a stampede when Cotto faced him (even Mayweather refused MP at that stage and accused pacman of juicing). And Cotto faced Mayweather. No I don't agree he has ducked fighters. Sorry dude, I forgot the wink at the end of the comment I was being sarcastic. theres a quote floating around here that goes something like ''if you are undefeated you haven't fought the best''. The only great who is undefeated today is Floyd everyone else who is either great or very good have loses on their record including the man who is about to beat Floyd Pac. Cotto has been consistently entertaining even when losing.

He's the lineal champ. But being the lineal champ doesn't translate him being the best mw.

Cotto has spent his whole career ducking people so he is not going to change that just for GGG. I just don't understand why he is ducking GGG so hard doesn't he realize he can break PPV records fighting GGG and he can take that money and retire. A bit harsh to say he ducked people. He has losses on his record because he did take risks. Margarito was a feared fighter when Cotto faced him. Pacman was on a stampede when Cotto faced him (even Mayweather refused MP at that stage and accused pacman of juicing). And Cotto faced Mayweather. No I don't agree he has ducked fighters.

Cotto has spent his whole career ducking people so he is not going to change that just for GGG. I just don't understand why he is ducking GGG so hard doesn't he realize he can break PPV records fighting GGG and he can take that money and retire. ??? please explain.... im all ears for this bullsh^t you are gonna come up with.

Miguel Cotto is far from being a paper champion...The disrespect on here is amazing sometimes... The are plenty of guys parading around with title belts who ARE PAPER CHAMPIONS...WBA interim this & champion in waiting that...and some people want to question Cotto's legitimacy? Smh

Cotto has spent his whole career ducking people so he is not going to change that just for GGG. I just don't understand why he is ducking GGG so hard doesn't he realize he can break PPV records fighting GGG and he can take that money and retire.

Lets be honest, he lost to trout then beat a nobody in Rodriguez and a crippled Martinez and people think he's better than ever. Sure he looke good but that win is (I'm sorry to say it) but no more credible than Rios beating Alvarado. Saying Cotto is not finished (although nowhere near his best) is not the same as saying he is a true world champion. IMO, if Cotto doesn't necessarily have to fight GGG to be considered the guy or a legit champion but he has to at the very least fight 2 of the 3 names I'm going to mention: Quillin, Lee or Canelo. But Cotto doesn't even look like he'll face those guys, or may be will face one of those and then have another fight against a nobody. Of course the GGG fight would be the best possibility.

The mainstream consensus is that the Martinez fight was a joke, but this forum is at times infested with maniacal Cotto fans who pretend otherwise. More recently, the reason for his paperism is that the whole middleweight division is ducking "GIANT BALLS KING COTTO!". Let them make believe I guess. The thing they don't understand is that their constant silliness actually diminishes Cotto's popularity. 5 guys living in an alternate reality are not going to convince anyone that the fight went differently, they're just going to annoy everyone into hating Miguel.

Not really relevant since no one on boxingscene would have known the extent of any injuries to Martinez. Still imposible to say how much it effected the fight but he looked very restricted. Cotto needs to beat someone else at MW who's an actual MW. you mean when the MRI after the fight showed that his knee was fine and that there was nothing wrong with it?

Lets be honest, he lost to trout then beat a nobody in Rodriguez and a crippled Martinez and people think he's better than ever. Sure he looke good but that win is (I'm sorry to say it) but no more credible than Rios beating Alvarado. yet pretty much noone gave him a chance at winning. That a 50% martinez still beats him and is too much for him. If ya dont understand that styles makes fights than no one can help ya. http://makeameme.org/media/created/Salt-Salt-everywhere.jpg

I don't know about this place sometimes. First someone saying a 1,2 is a jab, left hook, now someone posting without knowing the definition of a paper champ. :?!: Stay in school kids.

Yet 70% of Boxingscene voted "crippled Martinez" by KO before their fight. . Red k sent. pretty much this!

Lets talk about the disadvantages Cotto had going in to the fight with Sergio. Sergio had 4 pounds over Cotto for the fight, Sergio has 3' height advantage, Sergio has whopping 8' reach advantage, this was Cotto's first ever fight at MW while Sergio has made a living there. The excuse of Sergio's knees.. well NBA players have the same knee surgery a lot and return to allstar form right after, ex: Chris Paul and Blake Griffen so the knee excuse is overrated. Sergio is passed prime.. well Cotto isn't "prime" himself if you hadn't noticed. Yea paper champ.

if cotto is a paper champ what does that make mattysse? lol matthysse doesnt have a belt

if cotto is a paper champ what does that make mattysse?