Did provo ruin bradley?

His best win is the JMM fight and that came right after the provo fight. Everyone was saying at that time he was top3 p4p.

It seems that after the provodnikov fight bradley has declined slightly. The marquez fight is debatable since marquez was in his late 30s, which is normally the age fighters retire. Against pac bradley gassed very quickly and he didn't look impressive against chaves. He also seems to have gained more weight between fights than he used to although that could be due to aging. He doesn't seem to have the goods that he used to. The only thing I can think of is the provo fight which took him months to recover from. And now his broken cheekbone will give him trouble. He's picked up like an injury nearly every fight in the past 3 years. He's starting to look like rosado and that's worrying Not at all. If he did it would have shown against Marquez.

No, but he will never be the same after a fight like that. Bradley won the last fight, but it is hard to look good against Chaves because he fouls a lot. He doesn't want a rematch, as that could end his career even if he "wins". Provodnikov catches a lot of slack for being slow and no defense, he is still fun to watch.

He easily beat Juan. Juan easily beat alvarafo so no

How many fighters has JMM fought that could easily outbox him? Pure slick boxers will always school JMM. The dude very carefully chooses opponents. Just as Bradley and Floyd embarrassed him many other fighters also would. JMM is good against a certain fighter. If Pac only wanted to outbox him in an uneventful fight, Pac could do the same. But he's always looking for that KO. There have been many fights JMM has declined because he knew he would lose. He took the Bradley fight because Timmy tends to come in ducking a lot and JMM has a great uppercut. But Bradley has enough athletic skills that if he is not trying to KO him, easy win. I don't think there are many fighters who could easily outbox Marquez. The dude's timing is still as sharp as ever. There's definitely nobody at welterweight besides Floyd that I would pick over him with any confidence.

So, who else besides Floyd and Pac have been able to outbox JMM again? Bradley had the wrong game plan against Pac in the rematch because he knew he had no shot to win a decision due to the controversy in the first bout, not to mention he tore a calf muscle and still managed to finish the fight. In this last bout, the opponent headbutted him and he still won a minimum of 7 rounds (I thought he won 8). Arum paid the judges off (Lederman in particular) to keep Chaves marketable for future fights because his welterweight boxing stable is thin. How many fighters has JMM fought that could easily outbox him? Pure slick boxers will always school JMM. The dude very carefully chooses opponents. Just as Bradley and Floyd embarrassed him many other fighters also would. JMM is good against a certain fighter. If Pac only wanted to outbox him in an uneventful fight, Pac could do the same. But he's always looking for that KO. There have been many fights JMM has declined because he knew he would lose. He took the Bradley fight because Timmy tends to come in ducking a lot and JMM has a great uppercut. But Bradley has enough athletic skills that if he is not trying to KO him, easy win.

Why do people discredit fighters for not being blessed with natural talent such as amazing speed and power? If anything, I credit a fighter more for making up for that in other areas like will, determination, versatility. People like to have tangible things to point at. Power and speed are the two most obvious attributes of a boxer (how fast they throw punches and how much damage those punches do) and so people tend to look at those factors above other things such as footwork or less tangible skills like versatility or adaptability. I think Bradley is an A-level fighter and one of the few complete guys in the sport. He may not ever have the physical gifts to let him dominate his opponents but he's got enough wrinkles in his game to where you could never count him out of a fight.

Bradley loses his head, he ain't ruined. I do think he needs time off, he hasn't looked himself.

Bradley is my favorite fighter, hands down. But I honestly question if his heart is into it anymore. That 1st Pacquiao fight took a lot out of him mentally and emotionally. I think he lost his identity in the ring. He's out to please the fans now and goes away from the strategy and away from the advantages that makes him effective in the ring. He engages in toe to toe exchanges way more than he needs to. So with a lack of punching power, it does appear at times that he's struggling against mediocre opponents. I honestly think if he gets back to simply boxing and using his skill and speed, he will return to the level we are used to seeing him at. Resigning with Top Rank wasn't a wise move on his part either. After fighting greats like Pacquiao and Marquez, how can he honestly get motivated to fight Provodnikov and Chaves??? The best welterweights and jr welterweights are with Al Haymon. Those are the guys that would definitely keep him motivated and build a great legacy for him. With Top Rank, he is simply fighting for a pay day at this point.

Other than one punch KO power, Bradley Is pretty strong In all areas.

Don't get why some people thought I was saying he wasn't good. I rate bradley pretty highly especially considering his lack of power. I was just saying he hasn't looked as impressive lately.

It seems that after the provodnikov fight bradley has declined slightly. The marquez fight is debatable since marquez was in his late 30s, which is normally the age fighters retire. Against pac bradley gassed very quickly and he didn't look impressive against chaves. He also seems to have gained more weight between fights than he used to although that could be due to aging. He doesn't seem to have the goods that he used to. The only thing I can think of is the provo fight which took him months to recover from. And now his broken cheekbone will give him trouble. He's picked up like an injury nearly every fight in the past 3 years. He's starting to look like rosado and that's worrying So, who else besides Floyd and Pac have been able to outbox JMM again? Bradley had the wrong game plan against Pac in the rematch because he knew he had no shot to win a decision due to the controversy in the first bout, not to mention he tore a calf muscle and still managed to finish the fight. In this last bout, the opponent headbutted him and he still won a minimum of 7 rounds (I thought he won 8). Arum paid the judges off (Lederman in particular) to keep Chaves marketable for future fights because his welterweight boxing stable is thin.

He's rated that high p4p because of his win over Marquez who knocked out pacquaio

I've never considered Bradley a really great fighter. He's obviously world level, but I had him losing to Provodnikov and clearly losing both Pacquiao fights. He's certainly better than the likes of Alexander and he's a better welterweight than Marquez, but top 5 P4P? No chance.

Why do people discredit fighters for not being blessed with natural talent such as amazing speed and power? If anything, I credit a fighter more for making up for that in other areas like will, determination, versatility. Good point. Intangibles such as grit and heart actually require a mental toughness thats actually rarer than natural ability and should be celebrated more. There's plenty of fighters with speed and power.

If you wanna say when did he start declining, it was after Pacquiao 1 People forget how dominate Bradley was at 140. He took PEDerson and Devon's 0 and they both havn't been the same since. Post Pacquiao 1, he started having mental issues. He knows he got a notorious gift decision and it weighed heavy on him He still beats everyone on Al Haymons roster at 140 all the way up to 154

He outpointed JMM as he was coming off the best win of his entire career, then again JMM may not have had the right juice on him. He out boxed Chaves quite easily to, how do you see him struggling? What did he struggle in? I think he clearly lacked stamina and his usual snap vs Chaves, even though he clearly won.

Wins over Marquez & Chaves* and a good effort against Pacquiao. I don't think he's ruined. Maybe doesn't have the same hunger, but he's still up there. Would love to see the Khan fight next for Bradley. * yeah, but you know

Bradley did not get ruined. Why would anyone think that. He got absolutely robbed in his fight vs Chaves.

Why do people discredit fighters for not being blessed with natural talent such as amazing speed and power? If anything, I credit a fighter more for making up for that in other areas like will, determination, versatility. Bradley's biggest issue concerning his rating is that he fought Pacquiao. Pacquiao lovers hate him for the first fight robbery and Floyd lovers hate him because he's with Arum, thus being another fighter Floyd will never face who would give him trouble. Finally, the Khan groupies, cos they're Khan groupies.