Is it better to meet the right hand with your right palm (kinda like blocking the jab) or should you put your hand very high and take the punch with your forearm?
i'd especially look at tjames toney. he didnt' ahve insane footspeed, so he had to get out of the way of a lot of punches. he was a great, great defender, and one of the best fighers you will ever see against the right hand. he'd take the right hand away with defense and counterpunching. sometimes, the opponents would be best suited to stop throwing it, and they did.
I know I sound like a noob, but if Toney was such a defensive genius (which he was) why does he have one of the worst brain damages in boxing?
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Hi, I have written there too but I assumed it's more about conditioning and then actual training drills, not as much about what techniques are the best.
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Parry with the left while moving to the left, will get you good position but with boxing, always about timing, so easy to give advice but putting it to work is something else.
There's numerous options, depending how you want to follow up but you certainly don't want to be catching a straight right on your palm. A strong puncher will be sending the back of your hand right into your face. Traditional block is to put up a double forearm guard without blocking your vision completely.
Is it better to meet the right hand with your right palm (kinda like blocking the jab) or should you put your hand very high and take the punch with your forearm?
Please find your way to the freaking training section of the website......
Another good tactic is to roll with it, and then as his right is coming back to him, spring back at the waist from the roll, and take about a half step forward at the same time and throw your own straight right.. You will catch a lot of guys if you get that move down.. I always had good success with it.. It's a move I stole from James toney... Just watch the first peter fight and toney lands it a lot
Slipping the punch would be ideal because it will put u in position for a nice counter shot..
But if you have to block it, I would prefer to slide my right hand to the left side of my chin and catch it, and then maybe step in with a counter left hook over the top
Catch it with the left or parry it ... if set up with a jab then catch jab and slide slightly out of the crosses range ... it really all depends on alot of variables i.e. set up, power , speed , distance ,angle ect
. With it being a right slipping is always a great option
Sometimes, I switch to normal stance (orthodox)...to bait the right cross.
I usually put up my left shoulder a bit, and block with my right hand by holding the glove next to my left shoulder.
Make sure to angle off properly.....It's not exactly a shoulder roll, but the punch lands on your left shoulder with your right glove pinned up to make sure its blocked:fing02:
I would not advise blocking if you can roll it or slip it.
Catch it with the left or parry it ... if set up with a jab then catch jab and slide slightly out of the crosses range ... it really all depends on alot of variables i.e. set up, power , speed , distance ,angle ect
. With it being a right slipping is always a great option
don't block it. right hands are hard. slip or roll it.
the best way to do it is to get to the left and let it go by you. you have great angles for your own right hand, and you're ready to throw the hook now that your weight is on your left foot. james toney mixed this in very well with rolling the right hand.
next, you can roll / weave under it. don't stay bending over at the waist, or you're just in range for another right hand. get under the punch and get back in position immediately. miguel cotto does this very well. the idea is that you want to get to your left when you're in that close and you slip the right. if you stay to the right and duck, you stay in range for the right hand.
finally, you can roll it. mayweather, james toney, roberto duran.
i'd especially look at tjames toney. he didnt' ahve insane footspeed, so he had to get out of the way of a lot of punches. he was a great, great defender, and one of the best fighers you will ever see against the right hand. he'd take the right hand away with defense and counterpunching. sometimes, the opponents would be best suited to stop throwing it, and they did.
The Arm is unstable when the punchers extend so you can just slap his arm and his balance is off as well so yeah Parry and Roll makes the most sense but that takes good reflexes and quickness to catch a guy Cross especially if he has hands speed
If you not quick enough and you are the longer fighters with a reach advantage, you can lean back like and give your opponent a push to throw his balance off
And if your reflexes are really that good, get low and duck under it:
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Yeah, blocking it, or parrying it, with the right hand is a bit risky and can lead to too many things going wrong.
The standard way it's taught is to simply block it with your left arm though.
What goes wrong when you block it with your right palm?
You make a very good point about leaving a jab out. I think that the right whole he met with the left and cut short of it's potential. The catch and shoot technique is also good but as you said a more risky style. I think it really depends on distance and skill level. I'm not one to disagree, but I personally perfer to parry what's thrown at me a few times before deciding on what kind of counter to throw or if I'll try to weave away. There are endless options for this as each situation is different. But, blocking the right with the right just seems fundamentally wrong to me unless it's from one or two positions.
Yeah, blocking it, or parrying it, with the right hand is a bit risky and can lead to too many things going wrong.
The standard way it's taught is to simply block it with your left arm though.
You make a very good point about leaving a jab out. I think that the right whole he met with the left and cut short of it's potential. The catch and shoot technique is also good but as you said a more risky style. I think it really depends on distance and skill level. I'm not one to disagree, but I personally perfer to parry what's thrown at me a few times before deciding on what kind of counter to throw or if I'll try to weave away. There are endless options for this as each situation is different. But, blocking the right with the right just seems fundamentally wrong to me unless it's from one or two positions.
Catch and shoot, in my opinion, is less risky than parrying because the timing is more precise to pull off a proper parry. I agree you shouldn't try to parry a right with a right.. That's reaching across your body and that's Going to throw you off balance or out of position most of the time.
I would say meeting the right with your outstretched left will have mixed success at best, unless parrying is really your forte and you have a solid grasp of how to displace force. Problem is you are meeting their strong hand thrown with leverage, with your weak hand from a more isolated position. You could sustain an injury to your arm/shoulder trying to do that, or just plain miss the timing and get clocked.
Should view their right as a potent weapon that's better to slip or dodge with footwork than just soak up on your guard. But I'd definitely suggest the high guard. Catch and shoot with it, as soon as that right is soaked up shoot the jab, or fire a left hook if they are in close.
Despite its risk, obviously a parry is advantageous because you can see your openings better, and even create new opportunity with it. It's just the riskier move and requires a higher level of skill to not backfire on you
You make a very good point about leaving a jab out. I think that the right whole he met with the left and cut short of it's potential. The catch and shoot technique is also good but as you said a more risky style. I think it really depends on distance and skill level. I'm not one to disagree, but I personally perfer to parry what's thrown at me a few times before deciding on what kind of counter to throw or if I'll try to weave away. There are endless options for this as each situation is different. But, blocking the right with the right just seems fundamentally wrong to me unless it's from one or two positions.
Is it better to meet the right hand with your right palm (kinda like blocking the jab) or should you put your hand very high and take the punch with your forearm?
Yes, you block it with your left by bringing it up.
i think it would probably be better to parry with your left hand.
Better to block it rather than parry.
I would say meeting the right with your outstretched left will have mixed success at best, unless parrying is really your forte and you have a solid grasp of how to displace force. Problem is you are meeting their strong hand thrown with leverage, with your weak hand from a more isolated position. You could sustain an injury to your arm/shoulder trying to do that, or just plain miss the timing and get clocked.
Should view their right as a potent weapon that's better to slip or dodge with footwork than just soak up on your guard. But I'd definitely suggest the high guard. Catch and shoot with it, as soon as that right is soaked up shoot the jab, or fire a left hook if they are in close.
Despite its risk, obviously a parry is advantageous because you can see your openings better, and even create new opportunity with it. It's just the riskier move and requires a higher level of skill to not backfire on you
Roll the punch with right hand in ear muff position
I think this needs more explaining. What I'm getting from it is not the right way to go about blocking a right cross, but maybe I'm misunderstanding your point.
What does the right hand being in ear muff position when rolling a shot have to do with blocking a right cross? From an orthodox stance, the right hand won't even come into play if you're rolling with the shot with your right hand glued to your face. If you're suggesting rolling with it, your right hand can stay next to your lead shoulder and it's the same thing.
What's an ear muff position?
Just means a high guard basically. Think Clottey.