Nearly every PPV Manny Pacquiao has headlined was a two man show which included no significant undercard yet he managed to sell large numbers(Rios was a flop).Would is be a safe bet to say MP is the number 1 draw?(Wlad is a pretty big draw himself)
there's only one way to find out
Floyd needs to fight Brandon Rios in Macau with little to no promotion and lets see the numbers :dance:
Floyd wouldn't be stupid enough to fight Rios in Macau. That's the difference between these two. Floyd is a much better businessman.
The moderators should create a Floyd Mayweather master thread and a Manny Pacquaio master thread and require, under threat of a ban, that all comments about these two be placed in one of these threads. That would eliminate the daily dose of garbage thread like this one.
the ppv queen's last fight bombed. people are sick of rewarding this undeserving vacationer millions of dollars. not even broner and khan can save showtime from losing money. schaefer can't even show his face announcing the abysmal numbers.
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Your theory $uck big time. PAC vs Oscar was a circus act and it still made over 1m PPV. Had PAC destroyed Cotto then fought Oscar, I can guarantee you it'll do over 2m PPV.
you guys seem to have a way to discredit floyd no matter what the topic is its almost turned into an art and almost seems like political talking points as its always the same answers to everything no matter how ridiculous
;14552607']Your theory sucks, people that are drawn in for the undercard also want to watch the main event, otherwise they would switch it off. Floyd is the main draw there was not a stacked undercard vs Oscar. But when manny Fought Oscar they did hundred-thousands less in PPV buys.
Your theory $uck big time. PAC vs Oscar was a circus act and it still made over 1m PPV. Had PAC destroyed Cotto then fought Oscar, I can guarantee you it'll do over 2m PPV.
If I'm floyd f!!! Thanking Haymon,he should be thanking the mexican fan base or else he would be another Roy jones when it comes to mainstream popularity. Don't care how hard u ride his d, you know damn well that's true.
he does thank the mexican fan base a ton its usually right in there when hes thanking showtime haymon he usually thanks the mexican fans
If I'm floyd f!!! Thanking Haymon,he should be thanking the mexican fan base or else he would be another Roy jones when it comes to mainstream popularity. Don't care how hard u ride his d, you know damn well that's true.
So far this year, yes.
Floyd sold 500k, (350K generated by cinco de mayo and the most expensive undercard in history)
Floyd + cinco de mayo + stacked undercard > manny, but when you isolate each factor, then manny alone outsells floyd.
ya has nothing do with mayweather if they put another fighter in his spot it would do just as good :poke:
I've always found it really amusing that people will so arbitrarily add or subtract PPV numbers from Floyd fights, yet the idea of the same coefficients being applied to Manny is unfathomable heresy. Anything to maintain that 2010 feeling, even if it means agreeing on delusional alternate realities.
This is not true. Floyd fought Ricky Hatton in December of 2007 and outsold Manny when he fought Hatton. Against all their mutual opponents Floyd has outsold Manny. Manny has NEVER done 2 million buys no matter who he fought while Floyd has done so twice.The only exception is Marquez and the buys for his third fight with Pacquiao were high because of their history.
This is kind of sad. Now people want to make reality conform to their dreams. It is widely known and accepted that Floyd is the sports biggest draw, even if he does not stack his undercards, he will still be the bigger draw. This is getting just pathetic.
BTW I am a fan of both fighter, before people start labelling me a "floydstan", this is a view from a neutral person.
yes. he's the biggest draw around the world. he deserves it.
mayweather is a boring, vacationing, ducking, fake retiring boxer who don't deserve to get paid the kind of money he's getting.
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/b8rQ4pEvE0M/default.jpgYes, he does! Or else they would not be paying him that amount.
;14552607']Your theory sucks, people that are drawn in for the undercard also want to watch the main event, otherwise they would switch it off. Floyd is the main draw there was not a stacked undercard vs Oscar. But when manny Fought Oscar they did hundred-thousands less in PPV buys.
The is a diference..when oscar fought mayweather he was still that ticket selling machine,if you think it was mayweather I will disagree with you,anyways..one year later oscar fights forbes(unknown to any casual fan) and almost 2 years later than mayweather he fought pacquiao,when oscar was on the decline..And I know it doesnt matter and we can all agree oscar was a zombie on pac fight,but mayweather fight was very close whereas pac made him quit..anyways,I think your comparison fails a little bit here.
with all due respect, how can you possibly think Manny sells more if his numbers are lower?
I am asking respectfully because this question, even though the TS is a filthy troll, is not an opinion question. .
No problem and remember this is my humble opinion,I am not a ******* or floydtard or poptart,its what I think..I think if you see pac,pac alone,he carries an event alone,heck,arum has said he is not interested on undercards,he has fought really even when big names,there is no other fights..on the other hand mayweather,fights on cinco de mayo,he fights a mexican or someone that pleases the mexican crowd style,he has a stacked undercard,so if you see really close,mayweather alone dont have as much a drawing power it seems to be,you remember guerrero,it did alright..once again,If you put a stacked undercard,just for the sake of argument a pac vs marquez,bradley vs provodnickov,mikey garcia vs whoever,chavez jr vs ggg,how you think it will fair..with 3 months non stop publicity..I think it will fair really good...now if you put a somewhats stacked undercard on pac maybe not all super stars it will do very good..this last time pac fought,nobody of my friends knew who they were,but on mayweather fight,maidena was associated with broner and khan,collazo just came out of a victory over a well known fighter(ortiz)mayweather put khan again on the map with all the poll nonsense..I think you get my point...If you put mayweather bradley or pacquiao vs maidana,no undercards,I am really sure pac will sell a lot more....
yes. he's the biggest draw around the world. he deserves it.
mayweather is a boring, vacationing, ducking, fake retiring boxer who don't deserve to get paid the kind of money he's getting.
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Do you idiot's always ignore whatever doesn't fit your agenda I'm talking one man show if fraud didn't have stacked undercards he wouldn't sell sh1t his last fight featured Khan-Colazo? and Broner-Molina .Uk/N.Y.Pricans .. NotsureifABhasanyrealfans/L.A.mexican and it still just burly outsold Manny-Timmy ..Manny is the biggest draw in this sport
Your theory sucks, people that are drawn in for the undercard also want to watch the main event, otherwise they would switch it off. Floyd is the main draw there was not a stacked undercard vs Oscar. But when manny Fought Oscar they did hundred-thousands less in PPV buys.