Nether the blue pairs or red pairs were touched before the controversy by anyone from Maidanas team.
-Fight night gloves are shipped directly to the commission.
-The red gloves and blue gloves are the exact same
-The blue gloves were shipped in suran wrap due to the custom paint, hence the look of being used. The red gloves were packaged in an air tight sealant.
-Directly from an EA rep. All MX gloves are made the same. Custom gloves change paint only.
-Initially Ellerbe felt the blue gloves and said block these, they then felt the red gloves and said block these two. WHY? BECAUSE THEIR IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE RED AND BLUE GLOVES BESIDES THE WAY THEY WERE SHIPPED.
-Ellerbe and May now want to block horse hair in gloves, even though it is widely used in many brands and by many boxers....
CHINO WILL WEAR THE RED MX'S AS THEY ARE COMMISSION APPROVED AND THE FIGHT WILL GO FORWARD. THERE IS NOTHING ELLERBE CAN DO. NOW STFU.
the commission passed the stock red gloves and they still said no. it's no longer a matter of if the blue gloves were tampered or defective, they have an issue with the construction of the gloves. it should've been in the contract that maidana can't wear that specific model but they f*cked up and are making loud noises.
I agree 100%
TMT is actually fucking around with the issue now, because once the commission signs off on the gloves, its discussion over!!!
That's the point guys just DO NOT get, in this silly argument.
I've seen faulty gloves where the stitching is off and I've seen gloves where the padding shifted .... For someone to say that gloves are identical\the same is either stretching reality or have never put on a pair of gloves.
Gloves are made by humans, not entirely by machine and no two gloves are exactly the same ... There will always be minor\major differences in the same make of glove.
Manufacturer's strive for consistency, but even they know there are slight differences in all gloves made by people.
the commission passed the stock red gloves and they still said no. it's no longer a matter of if the blue gloves were tampered or defective, they have an issue with the construction of the gloves. it should've been in the contract that maidana can't wear that specific model but they f*cked up and are making loud noises.
The commission checked the gloves and rejected them.
As has been stated, gloves vary a lot. Anyone who says they are exactly the same is either a salesman, or is naive and knows little about boxing.
Truth!!!
Here's something else I would bet that many on this site stating that the gloves are the same don't know ......
Do you know that you can knead gloves while they're still in the plastic wrap to soften the knuckle area. I'm not implying that Garcia or anyone from Maidana's camp would sink that low. But its been done by others seeking to get an edge!!!
In a perfect world, neither team should have access to the gloves they're going to fight in during championship fights. Its very easy to have the custom gloves made and shipped directly to the commission for inspection and all the individual teams have to do is pick the brand and the color.
This way, no body but the commission touches the gloves. There are too many ways to manipulate packed gloves to both soften and shift the material around.
so why not just check the other two pairs of blue gloves?
The commission checked the gloves and rejected them.
As has been stated, gloves vary a lot. Anyone who says they are exactly the same is either a salesman, or is naive and knows little about boxing.
it's fucking stupid I admit, but at least we're not talking about abortions and clippers. At least this is boxing related and boxing gear talk lol.
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That's the point guys just DO NOT get, in this silly argument.
I've seen faulty gloves where the stitching is off and I've seen gloves where the padding shifted .... For someone to say that gloves are identical\the same is either stretching reality or have never put on a pair of gloves.
Gloves are made by humans, not entirely by machine and no two gloves are exactly the same ... There will always be minor\major differences in the same make of glove.
Manufacturer's strive for consistency, but even they know there are slight differences in all gloves made by people.
so why not just check the other two pairs of blue gloves?
Damn, this TS is am ignorant bish, making 6 threads about the same thing. They made the blue ones for the fight, the blue ones have less padding in the knuckle. The commission immediately rejected them upon inspection because of said padding issues. Everything posted in the first post is just regurgitated damage control propaganda from the everlast rep.
I'm supporting Maidana too but just because you like the guy doesn't mean you have to lie to yourself about what took place.
why do you keep saying theyre the same, same brand and model sure. But the blue ones are faulty and no good.. youre acting like the blue and red ones are identical
That's the point guys just DO NOT get, in this silly argument.
I've seen faulty gloves where the stitching is off and I've seen gloves where the padding shifted .... For someone to say that gloves are identical\the same is either stretching reality or have never put on a pair of gloves.
Gloves are made by humans, not entirely by machine and no two gloves are exactly the same ... There will always be minor\major differences in the same make of glove.
Manufacturer's strive for consistency, but even they know there are slight differences in all gloves made by people.
are you deaf. Ellerbe said clearly to Garcia "You didnt even feel cottos gloves, I did" That there was much more padding in Cottos. He also said he didnt have a problem with what brand they chose, they just needed proper padding
"Put him in the same schit I'm in" - Floyd Mayweather jr
it doesnt matter. theres clearly bbarely any padding if any at all on the knuckles of both red and blue sets of gloves. The fact that Garcia thinks they are ok looks bad on him, the fact that Everlast made them looks bad on them.
Well I guess the fact taht the commission approved them looks bad on Floyd since he'll be getting smashed in face by them.
are you deaf. Ellerbe said clearly to Garcia "You didnt even feel cottos gloves, I did" That there was much more padding in Cottos. He also said he didnt have a problem with what brand they chose, they just needed proper padding
The commission approved those gloves so they have proper padding, stop embarrassing yourself.
It doesn´t matter what Floyd or Ellerbe think , those are legal and approved gloves. They need to STFU.
Nether the blue pairs or red pairs were touched before the controversy by anyone from Maidanas team.
-Fight night gloves are shipped directly to the commission.
-The red gloves and blue gloves are the exact same
-The blue gloves were shipped in suran wrap due to the custom paint, hence the look of being used. The red gloves were packaged in an air tight sealant.
-Directly from an EA rep. All MX gloves are made the same. Custom gloves change paint only.
-Initially Ellerbe felt the blue gloves and said block these, they then felt the red gloves and said block these two. WHY? BECAUSE THEIR IS NO DIFFERENCE IN THE RED AND BLUE GLOVES BESIDES THE WAY THEY WERE SHIPPED.
-Ellerbe and May now want to block horse hair in gloves, even though it is widely used in many brands and by many boxers....
CHINO WILL WEAR THE RED MX'S AS THEY ARE COMMISSION APPROVED AND THE FIGHT WILL GO FORWARD. THERE IS NOTHING ELLERBE CAN DO. NOW STFU.
This statement proves absolutely nothing except that they are covering their asses...which makes perfect sense.
Reminds me of the Shaggy song, " wasn't me".
So you're telling Everlast how to make boxing gloves now.
Please dont take this the wrong way, but you're one sad stupid mthrfuker.
:lol1: he will take it the wrong way, I assure you.
Amazing how Floyd can stink up his own PPV event :rofl:
it doesnt matter. theres clearly bbarely any padding if any at all on the knuckles of both red and blue sets of gloves. The fact that Garcia thinks they are ok looks bad on him, the fact that Everlast made them looks bad on them.
So you're telling Everlast how to make boxing gloves now.
Please dont take this the wrong way, but you're one sad stupid mthrfuker.
Co-sign!
Nothing will be cleared up by this thread .... nothing!!!
You have guys that hate Floyd on one side and those that like him on the other side. These two sides will never agree to disagree ... Search the forum, it the truth!!!
I'll be the first to admit to be a layman on this matter. With that said i would love it if today various of the other pro boxers test the blue gloves and give their opinion on it.
IMO only a few people have touched the gloves in dispute and the few that have arent neutral IMO.
FMJ's camp isnt neutral, the everlast CEO isnt neutral. etc. To the point i hope dudes like:
Malignaggi
Bernstein
D.Garcia
Porter
Thurman
comment on the blue horse gloves AFTER TOUCHING AND TESTING THEM THEMSELVES, so i can come up with a conclusion for this confusing gloves gate.
People saying on this forum that they can see whats going on from a screen to me is bull.... look how magicians fool us easy(david copperfield etc.). Gloves gate is only worth the time if it comes to a conclusion which IMO should be possible, if the right people actually touch and test the gloves theirselves and speak on it. I hope this happens, because as of now for me it is impossible to say the gloves are good or bad, eventhough the commission have ruled some gloves out.