Exibit A: Peter Quillin. Every youtube video has negative votes and all his hype is gone. Casual fans don't care because he doesnt even look great in showcase fights. Hardcore fans realize they are being fed bullsh-t.
What stars has Al Haymon actually built? Remember Broner was supposed to be on PPV but that was canceled due to poor fan reaction before he lost.
Seems to me all Al Haymon does is lose Showtime money. Can you honestly believe Showtime makes the money back that they pay Peter?
If the trend continues boxing is going to be in real bad shape.
Yea he is the thief who takes fighters and allows them to make the most money they have ever seen...show me one fighter who complained about Haymon....ILL WAIT....only people complaining are bitter internet posters
They go with Haymon cause they know they have Cherry Pick fights and the judges in their back pocket. What do you think Haymon cut is from their purse it's not a couple of marbles
OP is 100% right
Al Haymon is costing SHO money like he did on HBO with Berto
And its clear that SHO is losing money. Alot of reporters said that the Guerrerro fight had to do 1 million just to break even and it did way less. 850k is good for a PPV but not when you guarantee a guy $40 mill (even tho he had to pay for all advertising so he ended up making about $10-15 mill)
This is why theres no nationwide press tour for the Maidana fight even tho its on PPV (which is a joke because hes a 10-1 underdog)
Stop playing like you know WTF is going on behind the scenes because none of us do.
So Haymon doesn't "advise" who his clients should and shouldn't fight? Nobody is that dumb.
Stop playing dumb. Why is everyone acting like Haymon is NOT putting these garbage fights together?
Stop playing like you know WTF is going on behind the scenes because none of us do.
True, but the reason people point to Al being so big in boxing is his ability to build star fighters. Al Haymon is selling a product to networks. Why would they over pay for a product that clearly is not working?? Showtime is losing money like crazy and not getting anything in return.
Showtime's fault but people need to realize Haymon is not doing anything but fleecing the boxing fan. How many more Berto's and Quillin's can boxing take?
You are completely confusing the roles of an advisor and a promoter.
Al Haymon, or any other advisor/manager isnt selling anything.
You are making some very broad strokes here with your statements ... As well as (OP) demonstrating that you do not have a full grasp of what an Adviser does for his clients.
Can you provide any documented evidence to support you claims, that are not derived from a personal opinion?
Sure, look up the fight card on April 26th
So Michael Konz sets up the matchups for Manny too? since he like Haymon is an advisor
Always want to turn everything into Mayweather vs Pac. Sad troll you are.
Haymon is a manager. He doesn't promote or build stars, but sure, he has a say in matchups.
GBP and Haymon have matched plenty of their stars tough, and will continue to do so. A string of a moth or two of soft come back fights and people flip out. GBP is the future of the sprt whether people like it or not. Not top rank.
Al may not build stars, but he sure has a knack for getting them star level money. I am sure the guys who have flocked to him are not complaining. How he does it I am not really sure, especially as he can no longer get networks bidding against each other.
I mean if Showtime suddenly decided to tighten their belt, it could definitely cause issues.
So Michael Konz sets up the matchups for Manny too? since he like Haymon is an advisor
So why does Richard always say he is gonna sit down with al and figure out these fighters next move?
Let me ask you guys something. Do you think Mosley,Trinidad,Vargas,de la hoya all fight each other in this era. You think Duran,Leonard,hagler,hearns fight each other in this era. Not a fn chance
C'mon man you know haymon has a say in these matchup stop playing dumb.People like watching garbage ass fights because there a fan of the "team". Some of you like the business of boxing more than the fn sport. Wack as hell
Should read up on the current news in boxing. Shafer and Haymon are running GBP and Oscar wants out.be nice if you can actually post a source or some type of fact to back up your posts
so was it schaefar and gbp who told broner to fight carlos molina ?
Promoters do the match making
I never claimed he was. A powerful Advisor should be selling something of value. Haymon fighters kill ratings for the most part and bleed money from the networks. See Berto and Quillin.
You are making some very broad strokes here with your statements ... As well as (OP) demonstrating that you do not have a full grasp of what an Adviser does for his clients.
Can you provide any documented evidence to support you claims, that are not derived from a personal opinion?
So in this thread Haymon now all the sudden is suppose to build stars and is the one who makes the match ups...did not know he was a promoter
so was it schaefar and gbp who told broner to fight carlos molina ?
So in this thread Haymon now all the sudden is suppose to build stars and is the one who makes the match ups...did not know he was a promoter
Should read up on the current news in boxing. Shafer and Haymon are running GBP and Oscar wants out.
Ya'll are complaining about matchups??? matchups is what the promoters do,not the advisors...are ya'll just making stuff up?
We actually pay attention and realize that Haymon is far from just an "advisor" He is practically running Showtime.