Truth is Maidana was fighting with a stomache infection that night so he had to really concentrate on not loosening his buttocks if ya know what i mean, which definitely hindered his mobility. Maidana said so himself in an interview.
He had a sore toe.
Excessive clinching isn't a valid excuse for losing nearly every single round. It didn't stop Bradley and Porter from completely dominating Alexander. Maidana is a solid, fan-friendly banger and that's about it. His so called improvements have coincided with favourable matchmaking.
yes, he did.
sure he clinched a lot, but he outboxed him too. he wouldnt have been able to win if he didnt, you cant win by just holding for 12 rounds. devon did his work, plenty of it too and he shut down maidanas. sometimes by holding, but so what?
clinching and smothering on the inside is part of boxing, if you want to work inside you just got to find a way to cope with it like other alexander opponents have. if you dont you will lose and thats what happened.
Cope with what? It was a clear strategy in this particular fight. Alexander has never been a guy to consistently clinch. In this fight in particular it stopped Maidana from working at all. Alexendar would work from range, run, hold when he got backed up, and Maidana wasn't allowed to work.... Simple as that.
Maidana clearly didn't deal with it well, but that doesn't change the fact that it's illegal.
yes, he did.
sure he clinched a lot, but he outboxed him too. he wouldnt have been able to win if he didnt, you cant win by just holding for 12 rounds. devon did his work, plenty of it too and he shut down maidanas. sometimes by holding, but so what?
clinching and smothering on the inside is part of boxing, if you want to work inside you just got to find a way to cope with it like other alexander opponents have. if you dont you will lose and thats what happened.
Holding is against the rules
maidana will know the true meaning of frustration come tres de mayo. still, goodluck to him ! anything can happen and i always root for the underdog. lol
yes, he did.
sure he clinched a lot, but he outboxed him too. he wouldnt have been able to win if he didnt, you cant win by just holding for 12 rounds. devon did his work, plenty of it too and he shut down maidanas. sometimes by holding, but so what?
clinching and smothering on the inside is part of boxing, if you want to work inside you just got to find a way to cope with it like other alexander opponents have. if you dont you will lose and thats what happened.
So quit saying it.
I'm a Maidana fan, but Alexander used his feet good, hugged like girl, and fought back when he was forced to.
I hate the type of boxing Alexander did. It's very upsetting. When a fighter gets too good at boxing, like Mayweather, the fights are boring. The guys need to be just under that level for the matches to be epic. Maidana is perfect. Castillo-Corrales, Gatti-Ward, Rios-Alvarado.
So quit saying it.
This guy gets it.
Does it matter, are we going to act like Floyd isn't going to do the same thing?
He'll clinch the hell out of him, won't attempt to fight out of the clinch and not get a single warning.
Devon put that midwest skills on Maidana, lets be real whenever some clinches you over 100 times that takes hard work and dedication.
Indeed, and by the 10th time he did that he should have lost a point, by the 20th he should have gotten DQ for wrestling in a boxing match. But we all know how that goes. But yes, when anyone says a clincher that has the favor of the ref. "outboxes" anyone, I just go :puke:
I picked Broner to beat Maidana..I also said that if Broner does not move his feet he will lose..I also did pick Bradley to beat Pac,1-1 not bad..I hope I'm wrong to,cause like you I'll most likely be ordering this fight..I don't have high hopes for it tho..May is just a different animal..I do think Maidana mentality is the one ya have to use on Mayweather(all out aggression,to hell with trying to win a boxing match)yet I see Maidana being to slow to effectively do it..Like ya said,I might be wrong..All we can hope for is a good fight..
All fair points Rome, remember though Maidana does usually land even though he is "slow" so i hope for the best and yes i hope for an entertaining fight. Recent Floyd fights have ended up being a bit low key after the first bell. I want some excitement and its partly why i'm wanting Maidana to do well as i actually like Floyd but Maidana doing well we make this exciting i feel.
I honestly believe after watching both fights numerous times if Khan had fought Maidana the same way he id Garcia, he would have got dropped and stopped within 6 rounds, he showed Garcia power no respect, trading with him in the middle of the ring, MAidana caught him while he was by the ropes running, you can see the ropes actually keep Khan from dropping.
On to Maidana, yes he struggles with movement, to have any chance vs Floyd he will need to cunt of the ring better than he has ever done, he has to get him on the ropes like cotto did, MAidana can do damage on the ropes IMO.
The mismatch thing keeps getting mentioned and Floyd might make it look that way, Canelo, JMM, RG all ended up being mismatches but i see MAidana causing Floyd problems with his aggression and tactics of not trying to outbox Floyd, it might not work and i'll look foolish post fight but i believe Maidana will have some success, enough to win we shall see but i think he gives Floyd a decent fight, better than those 3 i mentioned.
What annoys me Rome, is i do admire your posts and predictions but hope you have this one badly wrong, i think you tipped Broner to beat Maidana and Brad to beat Pacman?, so there's hope ha. (Yes broner is **** compared to Floyd, i know ha)
I picked Broner to beat Maidana..I also said that if Broner does not move his feet he will lose..I also did pick Bradley to beat Pac,1-1 not bad..I hope I'm wrong to,cause like you I'll most likely be ordering this fight..I don't have high hopes for it tho..May is just a different animal..I do think Maidana mentality is the one ya have to use on Mayweather(all out aggression,to hell with trying to win a boxing match)yet I see Maidana being to slow to effectively do it..Like ya said,I might be wrong..All we can hope for is a good fight..
I have to disagree..Broner started to get into a grove and come back on Maidana before the 2end KD..I had it 8-4 Maidana..Of course Maidana won rds big,that does not mean Broner won no rds..Not to mention most rds were close and then Maidana would land a very telling shot that would swing the rd in his favor..Anyway we are getting off track..
Lopez Broner Karass..You wanna know what all these fighters had in common??They all stood directly in front of Maidana..If you stand in front of Maidana,yes he can make things difficult..No doubt..Do you know what every fighter who beat Maidana have in common??They move and do not stand in front of him..Simple bro,movement is a solid weapon against Maidana..It also allows you to see everything from him coming..
There was a thread which ask why was Maidana not able to KO Khan if Garcia was able to..Now I understand Khan did fight Garcia a bit differently then he fought Maidana..Yet the reason is,because Khan seen everything coming..When you show Maidana movement his punches are not hard to see..Not to metnion his feet are very slow..
I'm not knocking Maidana for taking this fight..Yet there is no question bro,Mayweather Maidana is a mismatch..Alexander did outbox Maidana..
I honestly believe after watching both fights numerous times if Khan had fought Maidana the same way he id Garcia, he would have got dropped and stopped within 6 rounds, he showed Garcia power no respect, trading with him in the middle of the ring, MAidana caught him while he was by the ropes running, you can see the ropes actually keep Khan from dropping.
On to Maidana, yes he struggles with movement, to have any chance vs Floyd he will need to cunt of the ring better than he has ever done, he has to get him on the ropes like cotto did, MAidana can do damage on the ropes IMO.
The mismatch thing keeps getting mentioned and Floyd might make it look that way, Canelo, JMM, RG all ended up being mismatches but i see MAidana causing Floyd problems with his aggression and tactics of not trying to outbox Floyd, it might not work and i'll look foolish post fight but i believe Maidana will have some success, enough to win we shall see but i think he gives Floyd a decent fight, better than those 3 i mentioned.
What annoys me Rome, is i do admire your posts and predictions but hope you have this one badly wrong, i think you tipped Broner to beat Maidana and Brad to beat Pacman?, so there's hope ha. (Yes broner is **** compared to Floyd, i know ha)
Ha your face if Maidana hurts or drops Floyd would be priceless, you are a 120-108 guy for this fight i guess. You don't expect Maidana to land at all right?. We shall see, i think Maidana does better than you you expect.
I hope your right,cause all tho I'm talking that not ordering this PPV sh1t now..When fight night comes,I'll most likely be in front of the TV like the other morons..
I do see this fight being a bad match up and a big mismatch..Not saying Maidana won't land at all..Just saying he has very lil shot to win..Which is the goal..
Broner didn't "win loads of rounds", he barely won 3 and even those were competitive rounds where Maidana won his rounds big with KD's or him stunning Broner, Broner hurt Maidana once with an after the bell shot. That was a wide win for Maidana, not close in the slightest.
Maidana is less predictable now, he sets traps, uses feints. Check the 2 kd's vs Broner, a fake body shot then a shot over the top, Broner couldn't figure him out. The kd vs Lopez was similar but he actually landed a brutal body shot first and the last punch thrown was faster than before, Garcia has improved him i have no doubts, the jab as well.
What i will say though is that the opponents have been beatable/nice styles for him, but you can see improvements, his defense is still a weak link but even that has improved with him actually slipping punches and countering now.
Maidana ain't perfect, he is beatable but has good power, underrated skills and huge heart, Floyd is on a different level talent wise but it still doesn't guarantee victory, maidana KO'ing Floyd doesn't mean he becomes a better Boxer than Floyd, it just means he beat him on that night.
I have to disagree..Broner started to get into a grove and come back on Maidana before the 2end KD..I had it 8-4 Maidana..Of course Maidana won rds big,that does not mean Broner won no rds..Not to mention most rds were close and then Maidana would land a very telling shot that would swing the rd in his favor..Anyway we are getting off track..
Lopez Broner Karass..You wanna know what all these fighters had in common??They all stood directly in front of Maidana..If you stand in front of Maidana,yes he can make things difficult..No doubt..Do you know what every fighter who beat Maidana have in common??They move and do not stand in front of him..Simple bro,movement is a solid weapon against Maidana..It also allows you to see everything from him coming..
There was a thread which ask why was Maidana not able to KO Khan if Garcia was able to..Now I understand Khan did fight Garcia a bit differently then he fought Maidana..Yet the reason is,because Khan seen everything coming..When you show Maidana movement his punches are not hard to see..Not to metnion his feet are very slow..
I'm not knocking Maidana for taking this fight..Yet there is no question bro,Mayweather Maidana is a mismatch..Alexander did outbox Maidana..
Mayweather's low output will mean nothing to Maidana,cause Mayweather will be moving when not punching..Making Maidana chase and expend energy..All while setting him up for all kinds of traps..
Ha your face if Maidana hurts or drops Floyd would be priceless, you are a 120-108 guy for this fight i guess. You don't expect Maidana to land at all right?. We shall see, i think Maidana does better than you you expect.
He got outboxed, outpunched, outworked, outsmarted, outhustled and outmanned.
It was Maidana's worst fight for sure, anyone saying otherwise is deluded. Glad he bounced back though, guys like Maidana are fun to watch, Devon bores me to tears.
Mayweather's low output will be good for chino.
Mayweather's low output will mean nothing to Maidana,cause Mayweather will be moving when not punching..Making Maidana chase and expend energy..All while setting him up for all kinds of traps..