Fighting Thurman is a step backwards. Collazo or Guerrero are established names who have won world titles.
So why didnt Maidana fight Thurman a year or so back?
because floyd is about the money, and fighting khan would get him lots of money. if khan loses again especially if he gets kod, the fights scrapped. fighting thurman could get him hurt, and a floyd-thurman fight is obviously not marketable to gbp. or else they would be moving keith faster by now
Floyd will get 900K buys if he fought a Tupac Hologram....
As for Thurman vs Khan.....say what you want but Thurman would have to KO Khan to win.....seems easy enough....but I believe he will be down on the cards when it happens.
homie, thurman might not ever be ready for floyd. It doesn't matter if he's ready for floyd. He's more ready than maidana. Canelo fought floyd at 23 or something. Life goes on.
Nothing's guaranteed for tomorrow. You can't act like floyd won't get a career ending injury, or he just up and decides to retire.
If you have khan fight floyd now, and he gets his ass kicked beyond belief, how the hell do you market thurman or porter?
There aren't any cash cows like khan at ww. And you already know they're not gonna make thurman/porter vs danny.
I mean ****, guerrero got the floyd fight for beating aydin and berto. Ortiz got it for beating berto! Wtf!
keith thurman has not faced better oposition than marcos maidana has . I repeat keith thurman has not faced better oposition than marcos maidana has.
No , keith thurman is not ready for floyd mayweather yet , he needs to fight at least two elite fighters before a match with mayweather.
You see, that's so stupid. Why is Khan predetermined as an opponent? Why not make him earn it like Maidana?
Broner was the attraction, and Maidana beat him. Now people are interested in seeing that fight. Why can't Khan fight someone like Thurman or Porter, and the winner of that gets the next shot at Floyd?
Even Canelo had to earn it with Trout.
All of those guys (Canelo, Khan, Maidana) have substantial and established fanbases. I don't think Thurman or Porter has anywhere close to that yet and a win against Khan won't bring that just yet.
Canelo wasn't even in his prime when he fought Mayweather. Thurman is showing great improvements each fight. I'd rather see him improve a bit more and fight better competition before he fights money. Floyd would fight thurman in a year or 2 from now imo. Fight would be worth $$$ if thurman keeps winning convincingly.
So basically, we get maybe 2 Floyd fights a year. Regardless of what you feel about him, he's the biggest draw in boxing, and his fights are events.
You're cool with a Khan fight? I'm talking just off the basis that it's Khan. Not that he beat some other top WW. Only because it's Khan.
Literally the only big events in boxing are Manny, Floyd, Canelo (no one really anticipates his fights like Manny or Floyd), Cotto (same as Canelo).
There's a difference between "deserving" the fight, and being ready. Thurman should hone his skills a bit more (and let mayweather age) so that he's at his absolute peak going into the fight. He doesn't want to make the same mistake canelo (and others) made.
Same mistake? By the time Floyd's really old, he's not gonna fight Thurman....
I see what your saying but Thurman is still growing and learning as a fighter, while khan has been fully developed and has peaked and is now on the downhill
I'd buy that if Khan was actually a WW and looked impressive recently like Maidana, but not only did he not even come in at 147, he actually looks WORSE now.....:lol1:
Everything positive about his game that actually could've posed Floyd problems is GONE. WTF!?
Thurman needs to market himself. He has no core fanbase. American fighters have a hard time marketing themselves because boxing isn't that big anymore. Unless they make damn fools out of themselves like AB.
No one's gonna pull off an AB. What Thurman needs is his platform. aka Berto for Ortiz and Guerrero.
Floyd's under card would be the perfect platform to not only whoop the S outta Khan, but also call out Floyd in the post fight interview.
But, but, but, Thurman's not ready for Floyd.......
meanwhile, GBP is trying everything in their power to make a Khan fight, and not a damn person is using the "he's not ready for Floyd" excuse. They're using the "he's a draw" angle.
Then when I suggest Thurman should fight Khan, so if Thurman wins, he too becomes a draw, they use the "he's not ready angle."
I see what your saying but Thurman is still growing and learning as a fighter, while khan has been fully developed and has peaked and is now on the downhill
Thurman needs to market himself. He has no core fanbase. American fighters have a hard time marketing themselves because boxing isn't that big anymore. Unless they make damn fools out of themselves like AB.
That would be ideal for Thurman, but I don't think so for khan,, Thurman would behead him
But, but, but, Thurman's not ready for Floyd.......
meanwhile, GBP is trying everything in their power to make a Khan fight, and not a damn person is using the "he's not ready for Floyd" excuse. They're using the "he's a draw" angle.
Then when I suggest Thurman should fight Khan, so if Thurman wins, he too becomes a draw, they use the "he's not ready angle."
That's why I said they should fight each other. Khan earns his title shot, and Thurman gets the recognition.
That would be ideal for Thurman, but I don't think so for khan,, Thurman would behead him
I like thurman, but he's at least 2 years from being ready for floyd. They've matched him well, and I hope he continues to improve and progress.
If that's the case, Ortiz, Guerrero, Maidana have about 10 years, and age reversal therapy to be ready for Floyd.
Because khan brings the buzz and money,,, Thurman doesn't have a big enough profile yet to command the attention that khan gets
That's why I said they should fight each other. Khan earns his title shot, and Thurman gets the recognition.
Lucas was fighting some beasts, and he knocked out a stud in Peterson.
And that's not their blue print for GGG. It's called ducking.
If it was up to GGG, he'd have fought Geale and Martinez by now.
Also, you seem to not understand what I'm getting at. Why is Khan a predetermined fight for Floyd??? Why does he get a "soft touch" on his under card???
Why does Thurman have to go through all the guys you're talking about, but Khan, who hasn't even fought at the full WW limit get fast tracked to Floyd?
That's why I'm suggesting Thurman fight Khan for Floyd. It covers every basis. Thurman beats the cash cow, and gets the Maidana/Broner love. Khan wins, Floyd/Khan is EPIC.
If Maidana "earned" it with Lopez and Broner, then Zaveck, Chaves, Karass, and Khan should be enough for Thurman.
Also consider, Thurman is an actual WW. Maidana's not even a WW in my book. He's just a really strong guy that likes to eat.
Because khan brings the buzz and money,,, Thurman doesn't have a big enough profile yet to command the attention that khan gets
Triangle theories dont work on me. So all that first part is just you assuming it would happen but didnt actually happen. Maidana has been in the ring with some big names and in some big championship fights. Thurman has none of either.
Ok im going home. We both think hes very talented but differ on readiness.
"Big names" :lol1: I want to elaborate, but I don't wanna keep going in circles with you.
Agree to disagree.
OK, Chaves would end Lopez's life. Zaveck is a banger that would rearrange Broner's skull. He almost finished off Berto if it wasn't for the cut.
They both beat Karass, except Thurman KOd his ass, with only 1 scare. The fight wasn't even competetive after a single punch that Karass landed. Meanwhile, it was an even fight til the 6th round for Maidana.
Thurman also routed Quintana at 154.
Meanwhile, Devon completely embarrassed Maidana, and he's fighting the guy that's Devon on steroids. Literally and figuratively. :lol1:
And no, no one changes their stripes after changing trainers. Cut that BS out. He just fought some guys that wanted to bang with him, and another guy that hyped up to the moon, and ended up having no idea how to box, i.e. Broner.Triangle theories dont work on me. So all that first part is just you assuming it would happen but didnt actually happen. Maidana has been in the ring with some big names and in some big championship fights. Thurman has none of either.
Ok im going home. We both think hes very talented but differ on readiness.
Maybe we will continue after i feed my baby and say hello to the wife