This kid is the next big superstar at welterweight..he has great power and good boxing technique and seems to be getting better against better opposition each time out.
You guys think he will be a superstar by this time next year or will he be avoided by all the top guys at 147 like Paul Williams was and be forced to move to 154 to challenge for titles there?
I hope he gets a chance against Porter/Paulie/Devon/Brook/Maidana very soon..
Why you trying so hard to hype up the flavor of the week. Nothing special, will be exposed soon, and you guys will move on to the next one.
Yeah alright then bro, whatever helps you sleep at night.
exactly. he gets caught with some good **** too frequently
he's a KO waiting to happen
wide punches, not hard to hit, and hands low
But the fact that he can take those big shots is what counts. Let's be honest, how many offensive fighters out there have a watertight defence? The guy always goes for the KO, that automatically means he can also get KOd, it's nothing new.
No boxer is a household name in the USA
Floyd barely makes the mainstream..
I own a few bars/restaurants and rental homes and nobody I know follows boxing... Had a party last Saturday and we watched UFC and Danny Garcia fight, and literally no one knew any boxers, and one person knew Floyd...
Weird thing is that at the bars if I'm on premise, I turn boxing on if it's broadcast and a lot of people like it, but still bring up camacho, Duran, Leonard, Those seem to be what people know of boxing, especially camacho. People bring him up all the time
Exactly. People think Floyd's mainstream, but he's only mainstream when he has a fight coming up. If he was mainstream, his spousal abuse case would've been WAY bigger on ESPN.
Imagine if it was Tyson or Ali that got in trouble for beating their spouse.
What makes you say that? According to people in Argentina, Diego Chaves hits harder than Maidana and Matthysse and Thurman took his punches well.
And Maidana's punch resistance isn't particularly good, he's been down plenty of times.
Why you trying so hard to hype up the flavor of the week. Nothing special, will be exposed soon, and you guys will move on to the next one.
No way he becomes household by next year. I just don't see it. Fights are already scheduled through June of this year and he isn't on the docket. If you want to raise your profile quickly (a year's time) you need to either be very active (GGG 2013/Donaire 2012 model) or put together a couple devastating statement type wins over high profile opponents. I cant see him doing either...
The question I have about him is how long can he stay at 147? The way it's looking he might get ducked out of the division. He's due for a title shot (WBA I think) but if Floyd wins it in May, they aren't going to sell us a Money May vs. One Time bout. If he destroys the next guy he is able to get at 147, I think it'll be even harder for him. These dudes are shook.
im a fan of the guy he hasnt fought anyone good yet and being with GBP he never will so who knows check out UFC they started dying out and the same will happen to goldenb1tches for trying to follow a WWE format
I hear ya bro
No doubt Thurman hits hard but he's not used to being in the ring with guys with that kind of power in Maidana and Provodnikov. Maybe Thurman has more power than both of those guys but I don't think he can take a punch nearly as well as Maidana or Provodnikov.
What makes you say that? According to people in Argentina, Diego Chaves hits harder than Maidana and Matthysse and Thurman took his punches well.
And Maidana's punch resistance isn't particularly good, he's been down plenty of times.
It's the other way around. Maidana and Provodnikov would have serious problems against Thurman because not only does he hit harder than them, but he can box. I think he batters them from the outside for the first half of the fight and stops them late on. On the same night ;)
Matthysse is an average sized LWW, don't think he should move up to WW tbh.
No doubt Thurman hits hard but he's not used to being in the ring with guys with that kind of power in Maidana and Provodnikov. Maybe Thurman has more power than both of those guys but I don't think he can take a punch nearly as well as Maidana or Provodnikov.
Anybody who thinks Thurman, Bradley, etc are household names are very delusional..
Boxing fans may know them and that's it
They are nowhere near as popular and known as hagler, Frazier, Leonard, camacho Duran
Young fans think that Bradley and company are huge names, but years ago, boxers were on that tiger woods, Michael Jordan level and everyone knew them
He could if he gets the right fights
His problem is I see him fading fast. Thurman gets hurt in at least every other fight
lol what? I've never seen Thurman hurt. He got caught with a huge shot against Karass early on when he was off balance but he reacted well after initially taking an awkward step. He put his hands straight down and invited more pressure. That's not a sign of somebody who's hurt.
Against Chaves, he took some big shots and reacted well.
No boxer is a household name in the USA
Floyd barely makes the mainstream..
I own a few bars/restaurants and rental homes and nobody I know follows boxing... Had a party last Saturday and we watched UFC and Danny Garcia fight, and literally no one knew any boxers, and one person knew Floyd...
Weird thing is that at the bars if I'm on premise, I turn boxing on if it's broadcast and a lot of people like it, but still bring up camacho, Duran, Leonard, Those seem to be what people know of boxing, especially camacho. People bring him up all the time
I can see Thurman having some success but I have a feeling he'll peak quickly and fade out. 147 is a stacked division and with his style he'll face some problems with heavy hitters like Provodnikov and Maidana. I think Matthysse and Thurman should get it on at 147. There's no reason for Matthysse to stay in the 140 lb. division any longer.
It's the other way around. Maidana and Provodnikov would have serious problems against Thurman because not only does he hit harder than them, but he can box. I think he batters them from the outside for the first half of the fight and stops them late on. On the same night ;)
Matthysse is an average sized LWW, don't think he should move up to WW tbh.
I can see Thurman having some success but I have a feeling he'll peak quickly and fade out. 147 is a stacked division and with his style he'll face some problems with heavy hitters like Provodnikov and Maidana. I think Matthysse and Thurman should get it on at 147. There's no reason for Matthysse to stay in the 140 lb. division any longer.
The only household names in boxing are Floyd Mayweather Jr., Manny Pacquiao, Juan Manuel Marquez, Miguel Cotto, Canelo, and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr., in my opinion. 4 of those guys should be retiring within the next two years, so if Keith Thurman plays his cards right he could become a big name.
Maybe tim bradley too, if he gets the win over manny legit this time round.
im a fan of the guy he hasnt fought anyone good yet and being with GBP he never will so who knows check out UFC they started dying out and the same will happen to goldenb1tches for trying to follow a WWE format
Where does this myth come from? GBP has consistently matched it's best against each other.
The only issue with that is everyone and their mom would know it's folklore.
lol man this what boxing has become instead of making a name by fighting, u do it by accusing others of ducking. But if it works i suppose he will take it.
Well everyone is doing it and it worked for them, since most fans are dumb I wouldn't bet against. People still accuse Mayweather of retiring when he knows Cotto and others were in their prime, I mean a man retired and wasn't fighting or competing in any type of competitive activity but he kinda "Forsee his rival" getting into their prime according to some of these plebs.
He can if they build his reputation based on how Mayweather retired because of him, it's worked using Mayweather name in the past and am sure it would work again if they go down that route.
lol man this what boxing has become instead of making a name by fighting, u do it by accusing others of ducking. But if it works i suppose he will take it.
He can if they build his reputation based on how Mayweather retired because of him, it's worked using Mayweather name in the past and am sure it would work again if they go down that route.
The only issue with that is everyone and their mom would know it's folklore.
He can if they build his reputation based on how Mayweather retired because of him, it's worked using Mayweather name in the past and am sure it would work again if they go down that route.