He sure looked it in his last fight. IMO. I know he has a lot of power but watching the last fight he looked very flat footed and I don't know if he just had no respect for his opponent's power but all he did was move straight forward.
Where in this video is GGG compared to Chavez sr?.
I wasn't comparing him to Chavez Sr. I was simply responding tho this.
while GGG doesn't seem to care about defense if countered or pushed back, he just keeps on piling up the pressure. I can't recall him countering a shot, his game so far has been solely based on offense.
I think the video demonstrates that he absolutely cares about defense but it is always in the context of his offense, as it should be. Also, the idea that he doesn't counter a shot? Once again the video refutes the fact that he doesn't counter shots. In fact he counters plenty.
Wrong.
Where in this video is GGG compared to Chavez sr?.
Besides, in many of the higlights he manages to avoid uppercuts while on the offense (what the video is about), but he also gets tagged when retrating in a straight line.
Make no mistake, GGG is a very good fighter, but he's not nearly as well rounded as a Chavez sr , his defense should be improved or he might struggle when somebody is strong enough to push him back, imo.
What is mono dimensional in my opinion is his defense, the comparison with Chavez sr is a good one in terms of offense, but the Mexican had a much better defense , counters and head movement, while GGG doesn't seem to care about defense if countered or pushed back, he just keeps on piling up the pressure. I can't recall him countering a shot, his game so far has been solely based on offense.
Wrong.
He has many dimensions to his aggressive style. Just how he changes the speed to his attack is more than most fighters do, who operate at one speed, not to mention that GGG throws every punch in the book, and some that aren't even in it(the left hook high to the forehead), always setting up his next shot. One dimensional? Who else has that kind of variety to their offensive game?
I think he is but he is very good in that dimension. OrI don't know what's considered to one dimensional. I don't mean it just to the likes of Rios. For me, when someone never canges his gameplan and literally does the same thing on every of his fights is one dimensional. To be fair, by this standard, many boxers are oe dimensional.
I don't think anyone has really tried to push him back yet or had the strength/power to push him back. He doesn't seem to counter-punch.
Maybe. But you'd have to be better in close than Golovkin is. Ward could do it, but i think hes about the only one in and around MW.
Same way that if you were better than Rigo as an outside fighter you could beat him by forcing him to lead. I dont think anyone currently is good enough to do that though
Agreed and this is what i see with Golovkin in the MW division.
You can go toe to toe with him and he'll wreck you with his great power and solid chin. Or you can move away from him and hell cut the ring off and force you to fight where you dont want to.
'One dimensional' doesnt have any bearing on whether someones a good/bad fighter
I don't think anyone has really tried to push him back yet or had the strength/power to push him back. He doesn't seem to counter-punch.
The key is to find ways to deal with opponents who want to take away your one dimension.
GGG cuts the ring off.
Mayweather does what ever he can to maintain space(clinching, moving, pushing oppinent back etc etc)
Rigo punishes fighters who come towards him with hard counters and uses great footwork to stay away.
Rigondeaux is impossible to fight. If you stand off him, he's too quick and his footwork is too good so he'll be able to pick you off and get out. If you pressure him, he'll counter the sh1t out of you.
He makes his opponents zero-dimensional.
Agreed and this is what i see with Golovkin in the MW division.
You can go toe to toe with him and he'll wreck you with his great power and solid chin. Or you can move away from him and hell cut the ring off and force you to fight where you dont want to.
'One dimensional' doesnt have any bearing on whether someones a good/bad fighter
He sure looked it in his last fight. IMO. I know he has a lot of power but watching the last fight he looked very flat footed and I don't know if he just had no respect for his opponent's power but all he did was move straight forward.
LMAO if you think GGG is flat footed then you honestly have no clue what you are watching in the ring. GGG's footwork cutting off the ring is absolutely elite its his best attribute by far.
if he would have cut the ring off a bit better he would have taken murray out of there about 4 rounds earlier. He didn't though and just followed murray around for 5 rounds or so. He's actually lucky that last KD eveN happened. Murray was doing okay just making his way around the ring and sliding out of the corner when GGG got closer.
Ward washes him.
Limited maybe, but not one dimensional. . . Problem is that strong dimension that we do often see, is so problematic for his opponents that it seems to be enough for him at the moment.
If you put it that way, then yes, he -is- a counter puncher, i'm not arguing over that, but that isn't being one dimensional in my opinion.
I mentioned Lara for a reason, he looks completely out of his waters if forced to stay at mid range, while Rigo can and will trade if he feels he has to.
He traded at mid range with Donaire (at the very beginning and at the very end) and in his last fight after getting knocked down.
He surely isn't as versatile as a Bradley (who in my opinion should stick to be a boxer) , but I wouldn't call him one dimensional.
Rigo and Lara have the same dimension, but Rigo is much, much better at it. I'm not saying Rigo's dimension is retreating, his dimension is that he wants to be at mid-range. If his opponent presses, Rigo retreats. If his opponent retreats, Rigo presses. His game to make you miss at mid-range and counter with his left hand. That's what he does, and nothing else. He isn't comfortable inside at all. He'll throw a couple punches and clinch. That's why Donaire ended up being perfect for him, because it's Donaire's same dimension as well, which Rigo is much better at.
Lara tries to do the same thing, to stay at a certain range and counter, but he's so easily thrown off. The Trout fight is an example of when Lara is actually comfortable with the range, and it's one of his best performances.
Rigondeaux is impossible to fight. If you stand off him, he's too quick and his footwork is too good so he'll be able to pick you off and get out. If you pressure him, he'll counter the sh1t out of you.
He makes his opponents zero-dimensional.
Rigo is definitely one-dimensional. He wants to stay at a certain range, make you miss, and counter with the left. He's superb at that one dimension, but that's what he is. He won't ever go inside and start working at you, or become a pressure fighter throwing combinations.
If you put it that way, then yes, he -is- a counter puncher, i'm not arguing over that, but that isn't being one dimensional in my opinion.
I mentioned Lara for a reason, he looks completely out of his waters if forced to stay at mid range, while Rigo can and will trade if he feels he has to.
He traded at mid range with Donaire (at the very beginning and at the very end) and in his last fight after getting knocked down.
He surely isn't as versatile as a Bradley (who in my opinion should stick to be a boxer) , but I wouldn't call him one dimensional.
I wouldn't say that Rigo is one dimensional, he surely isn't an inside fighter, and being rather small even for his weight class doesn't help in that regard. Apart from that though he has more than one dimension: he can make you miss and counter in the pocket, he can move , he can box and he is also dangerous at mid range.
Lara is a better example in my opinion, he only looks comfortable on the outside, and will avoid to stay at mid range , or on the inside, at all stages.
Regarding GGG , he is not one dimensional in terms of offense. He has a good jab and mixes up his punches well. He knows how to go to the body, is patient and very effective when he wants to push the fight.
What is mono dimensional in my opinion is his defense, the comparison with Chavez sr is a good one in terms of offense, but the Mexican had a much better defense , counters and head movement, while GGG doesn't seem to care about defense if countered or pushed back, he just keeps on piling up the pressure. I can't recall him countering a shot, his game so far has been solely based on offense.
Rigo is definitely one-dimensional. He wants to stay at a certain range, make you miss, and counter with the left. He's superb at that one dimension, but that's what he is. He won't ever go inside and start working at you, or become a pressure fighter throwing combinations.
Yes he is one dimensional from what I've seen so far. but then so is Rigo.
Tim Bradley is very versatile and I'd rate him as being worse tthan both (though his resume is better for a few reasons)
Versatility isn't the be all and end all. It can be handy sometimes, but perfecting your own style is the most important thing.
I wouldn't say that Rigo is one dimensional, he surely isn't an inside fighter, and being rather small even for his weight class doesn't help in that regard. Apart from that though he has more than one dimension: he can make you miss and counter in the pocket, he can move , he can box and he is also dangerous at mid range.
Lara is a better example in my opinion, he only looks comfortable on the outside, and will avoid to stay at mid range , or on the inside, at all stages.
Regarding GGG , he is not one dimensional in terms of offense. He has a good jab and mixes up his punches well. He knows how to go to the body, is patient and very effective when he wants to push the fight.
What is mono dimensional in my opinion is his defense, the comparison with Chavez sr is a good one in terms of offense, but the Mexican had a much better defense , counters and head movement, while GGG doesn't seem to care about defense if countered or pushed back, he just keeps on piling up the pressure. I can't recall him countering a shot, his game so far has been solely based on offense.