I've been thinking about the future of GBP after Mayweather retires. You must realize that Mayweather is the main focus of Showtime and GBP is getting some good benefits from this. BUT, when you check on GBP stable, it lacks of superstar caliber. There are great fighters like Lara, Matthysse, Maidana, Danny Garcia, Angulo and Canelo (not a great fighter, but good financially)...but those names can't make 1MM PPV's fights.
TopRank is making a great work around Mikey Garcia and is doing a good job with Bradley.
On the other hand, in GB stable you'll find more options than in TR stable, so you can see this from many ways.
I want to see your opinions of what you think is going to happen with GBP and TR after Mayweather and Pacquiao retires. Which one might have the better near future.
i've been thinking about the future of gbp after mayweather retires. You must realize that mayweather is the main focus of showtime and gbp is getting some good benefits from this. But, when you check on gbp stable, it lacks of superstar caliber. There are great fighters like lara, matthysse, maidana, danny garcia, angulo and canelo (not a great fighter, but good financially)...but those names can't make 1mm ppv's fights.
Toprank is making a great work around mikey garcia and is doing a good job with bradley.
On the other hand, in gb stable you'll find more options than in tr stable, so you can see this from many ways.
I want to see your opinions of what you think is going to happen with gbp and tr after mayweather and pacquiao retires. Which one might have the better near future.
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Great posts over here. IMHO I think Canelo brings a huge fan base but he must figh guys like Lara, Andrade and even Vanes in order to be considered a credible PPV atraction. He's fighting a really dangerous Angulo so we should wait and see what happens.
I might be good for the sport when Floyd and Manny retires. Maybe this promotional war ends and we see cooperation between them.
Boxing is way bigger than any fighter there is, so the sport will continue and will prosper without Mayweather and Pacquiao. GBP and TR will still be here and both will continue making money.
Perfectly explained.
Mikey Garcia . Ggg, Ward, Thurman, Danny Garcia. Canelo are the future. They will all flourish. So will their respective promoters even outside of Tr and Gb
I'm not too sure about TR. After Manny, who do they really have? It will be up to Arum to develope a star. Some may not remember, but Mayweather was not a big draw either until the De La Hoya fight. He was a sound technician in the ring but nothing overly exciting. It wasn't until he became "Money" Mayweather. That's when he became a big PPV attraction. Unlike many, I do think Bradley could become that guy for TR. He would have to show fans an arrogant side and play the villian, but it would work. If he beats Manny, he will be hated by Manny's fans. They will pay to see him get his ass kicked after that. So will mexican fans. Bradley would just have to endure the hatred. It would make him a very weathy man though.
For GBP, hands down Canelo will be the next big attraction. One, because he has a big fan base, 2 because he has a great star appeal, and 3 because he has dangerous opponents to create dramatic and exciting fights. If Broner takes the sport more serious and works on his flaws, he can become huge as well. His personality is huge. He just needs to grow his skill to the same level. The guys around his weight are very dangerous. He could be in some of the most explosive fights in the near future, but he better be properly prepared.
GBP has the deepest stable and most known stable in boxing. Haymon is behind them also. They basically have their own network. They will be fine.
The problem is that network might not be able to support their expensive stable, unless they let some of them go, or lower their market value with some losses. Their ratings might be up, but so is the spending to HBO levels, and still the ratings lag way behind HBO.
That was aimed at Khan more, but I don't think Broner has that great of a chin either.
I do he came up to. 147 and ate bombs from one of the biggest punchers in the division. Sure he was hurt numerous times and dropped twice but still managed to have enough to come back and hurt and walk down maidana he also recovered pretty fast
GBP will be just fine, espinoza is good friends with oscar and richard they had this plan for the longest time.
GBP will still be the premiere Promotional company when Mayweather retires, what other promotional company has more stars who are young then Golden Boy?
Gbp can't wait for Floyd to leave sure they make money off him but look what's gotta be paid to him. With PAC and May gone tr and gbp will have the dough to stack cards and won't really have to pay fighters huge money because there's not to manny fighters that can pull in 1mil+ now weather or not they do this isk only time will tell. It always seems that way there's a big star then he retires and boxing fires up again because fighters are actually fighting each other to become the next big star.
Canelo and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. have the most potential to be the biggest PPV draws after Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao, Marquez, and Cotto retire within the next 2 years.
I think Canelo/Cotto, Canelo/Martinez, and Canelo/Mayweather II are possible before those guys retire. Those are all huge PPVs. Potential PPV opponents for Canelo in the future: Kirkland, Lara, Andrade, Charlo Brothers, guys that would move up from 147 like Thurman, Maidana, Porter, Broner, guys like Quillin and Golovkin if Canelo moved up to 160.
For Chavez Jr. there's Froch and Ward at 168, Golovkin if he moves up to 168, Pascal, Stevenson, and Kovalev if Chavez Jr. moves up to 175.
And I'm just saying those fights have the POTENTIAL to be PPVs, not that they should be or would be.
Two PPVs I would love to see are Canelo vs. Bradley at 154 and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs. Bernard Hopkins at 173 Catchweight or 175. Cold War though.
Other guys that I think have some PPV potential are D. Garcia, M. Garcia, Golovkin, Broner and Khan if their chins don't keep failing them, and maybe Thurman. I don't think Bradley has much potential as a PPV A-Side, or Ward.
Broners chin failed him? Missed that I thought it was his ego and overrated boxing skills that failed.
Canelo and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. have the most potential to be the biggest PPV draws after Mayweather Jr., Pacquiao, Marquez, and Cotto retire within the next 2 years.
I think Canelo/Cotto, Canelo/Martinez, and Canelo/Mayweather II are possible before those guys retire. Those are all huge PPVs. Potential PPV opponents for Canelo in the future: Kirkland, Lara, Andrade, Charlo Brothers, guys that would move up from 147 like Thurman, Maidana, Porter, Broner, guys like Quillin and Golovkin if Canelo moved up to 160.
For Chavez Jr. there's Froch and Ward at 168, Golovkin if he moves up to 168, Pascal, Stevenson, and Kovalev if Chavez Jr. moves up to 175.
And I'm just saying those fights have the POTENTIAL to be PPVs, not that they should be or would be.
Two PPVs I would love to see are Canelo vs. Bradley at 154 and Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. vs. Bernard Hopkins at 173 Catchweight or 175. Cold War though.
Other guys that I think have some PPV potential are D. Garcia, M. Garcia, Golovkin, Broner and Khan if their chins don't keep failing them, and maybe Thurman. I don't think Bradley has much potential as a PPV A-Side, or Ward.
Chavez Jr will never be a major ppv draw. Ever. He doesnt have the work ethic nor the ability to climb out of the shell of his fathers name. He also doesnt have the skill to defeat any of the top fighters you mentioned without it being some sort of miraculous upset.
GBP/SHO will do well after Mayweather retires. Right now
most of their funds go to Mayweather fights. Little is left
for regular fights. Remember, networks are not there to
attract PPV buyers. They're there to attract subscribers.
If some how thurman can get the big names and enuff push ...he could be looked at a mini Tyson ...then GBP has conelo and Broner (if he bounce back correctly) .....but I believe stack cards will be the future
I actually can't wait till manny, and Floyd retire.. Great talents but kinda have the boxing world hijacked...
Once they gone their won't be another PPv star in North America, which will force promoters to have more stacked cards, minus a big headliner, instead of big headliner in a cherry pick with bad undercard
I've been thinking about the future of GBP after Mayweather retires. You must realize that Mayweather is the main focus of Showtime and GBP is getting some good benefits from this. BUT, when you check on GBP stable, it lacks of superstar caliber. There are great fighters like Lara, Matthysse, Maidana, Danny Garcia, Angulo and Canelo (not a great fighter, but good financially)...but those names can't make 1MM PPV's fights.
TopRank is making a great work around Mikey Garcia and is doing a good job with Bradley.
On the other hand, in GB stable you'll find more options than in TR stable, so you can see this from many ways.
I want to see your opinions of what you think is going to happen with GBP and TR after Mayweather and Pacquiao retires. Which one might have the better near future.
Lulz What an accurate list for Top Rank
Garcia
Bradley
Rigondeaux
Chavez
Donaire
Gradovich (IBF Champion 126)
Allakhverdiev (WBA title 140)
Rios
Alverado
Shafikov (fights this weekend for IBF title at 135)
Prospects
Lomachenko (could be huge in 2 weeks if he beats Salido to become Champion)
Verdejo (Puerto Rican fan base)
Valdez
Ramirez
Mekhontsev
Murata