All access "Canelo's impressive time of 3:00 in the 800" wth.

Now we know the secret of Canelo's rubbish stamina. I run at a faster pace than this for 4 miles no joke. This is not impressive at all. After a 2.5 month break from boxing season I was totally unfit and could run 3:00 literally straight away in the 800m and am now running 2:30 intervals. I weigh about 154 and Canelo is low 70s so he shouldn't be much slower - in fact he should be faster since he is a professional athlete after all. Anthony Joshua has not even had a pro fight yet and on a program in the UK that pits olympic athletes from different sports against each other (not even a serious thing just for fun) Joshua ran 2:26 and he's 17-18 stone and of similar age to Canelo. In all seriousness a professional boxer at that weight should be running 2:20s at worst (in a maximal effort test not intervals). I agree. I run 6 miles which is equivalent of 25 times around a 400 metre athletic track and on a good day i run each lap 1.33/34 and I'm 16 stone and 42 years old

Well if this is anything like what I used to do, it's not bad at all. And I heard that he did it 6 or more times. Those aren't bad times. You start off and try to beat your initial time each time with a minute or two rest..... and he did look to beat it each time getting to 3:00 by then. IMO, that's hard.... that's a big endurance thing and kills the legs. - -What grade U in? Most guys on the 8th grade track team could do that or better. Canelo ain't a runner, clearly, and has a history of knee prob and operations who needs to run track like he needs to wear his jockstrap backwards. If this is Eddie's doing, then he's blowing it...

I had a very good friend that could do 9.8seconds for 100meters, and sub 5 minute for the mile in high school. I don't know his time for 800meters, but his father was a national athlete for that distance. My friend was clearly born with talent. I was mediocre at both, but I could toss him around in grappling/wrestling, could easily beat him in arm wrestling (both arms) and also had more punching/kicking power. In general, I think most people are good at different things. It's encouraging to know that Canelo is a truly great boxer even though his aerobic stamina may not be that great.

Alvarez always amazed me with his handspeed. He's clearly nonathletic yet his hands are fast. stamina is terrible foot speed is slow but his combos go flying I don't think his hands are that fast he just has brilliant timing.

After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level. This is not to bash on Canelo, to prove that he's drained or anything. I am simply evaluating his performance, considering he's a professional athlete. When 16 I was expected to run 1km in less than 3 minutes for 3 or 4 times just to pass one of my trainer's physical tests during the pre season. Even considering altitude his times are far from being impressive. Most amateurs athletes, not only runners, could do better, I'm fairly sure. And 800m is not long distance running, it is mostly anaerobic. In other words a high intensity activity for a short period of time. In boxing it affects, for instance, for how long you can keep on throwing punches before you go out of oxygen. What Canelo lacks, but it is only my opinion, is aerobic training, such as long distance running, which in boxing is usually refered to as "road work"

This thread is retarded as phuck. There, someone had to point that out.

After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level. Lol, yeah and try doing that time in a diet with almost no carbs:bottle:

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:lol1: Ricky Burns might have gotten his jaw broken but he is better conditioned than Beltran doe! Matthew Hatton lost to Canelo but I bet he would smoke his ass in an 800m sprint intervals competition. In all serious. He probably would. lol.

lol..... carl froch and joe calzaghe, perhaps. most brits wouldn't win a fight in the states. carson jones and ray beltran are heroic figures to the brits. Why so defensive? :usa2: Better conditioned doesn't mean better. Ricky Burns is a case in point. The fact he can reel off the last two rounds against Beltran to at least make it close on the cards with his chin hanging off is testament to his conditioning as much as his heart. Burns never looked tired despite taking a beating. There is an awful lot of stock held here in the physical fitness of fighters. But skills do pay bills.

After seeing this on all access I understand this better. It looks like Canelo was timing himself over a half mile course that included some hills and he was making repeated runs over this course one after another. This is at about 7500 feet altitude which slows down your time. Considering these things his time of 2 minutes 56 seconds for 800 meters or about half a mile is OK. It's not anything special or a great time but it does not show weak stamina either. Canelo has a short stocky build that is not the best for long distance running. Running a course up and down hills at 7500 feet is going to slow down the times compared to running on a flat running track at sea level.

lol..... carl froch and joe calzaghe, perhaps. most brits wouldn't win a fight in the states. carson jones and ray beltran are heroic figures to the brits. :lol1: Ricky Burns might have gotten his jaw broken but he is better conditioned than Beltran doe! Matthew Hatton lost to Canelo but I bet he would smoke his ass in an 800m sprint intervals competition.

Didn't realize there were so many track & field experts and boxing coaches on this forum......how on earth did Canelo make it past his last forty something fights without the advice of everyone on BS! I was on a div 1 track team. Canelo's stamina is fine.

I'd ignore the napkin math he posted. One study is nothing in the grand scheme of journals, he'd need a list of multiple to have people believe what he is saying is correct. Not to mention it's not taking into account equipment worn, the ground, incline, intervals or the temperature. That study he posted calculates one time It doesn't factor in intervals... It's like taking the best time and seeing how elevation affects it for one run. Does not factor in prior work outs, energy, and being tired during intervals.

Seriously, 7000ft is not that high. As for the intervals thing, I was told Canelo is resting for 2 minutes or so, in which case it's highly relevant. Nobody here is going to convince me that his times are respectable for a professional athlete because they simply aren't. You'd get loads of guys on this forum who could do better and I'd put a good deal of money down on myself beating Canelo. You are acting like you are an expert, but anyone who has done actual interval training, and/or training at elevation knows you are clueless. :dance::dance::dance:

What about the altitude?

Didn't realize there were so many track & field experts and boxing coaches on this forum......how on earth did Canelo make it past his last forty something fights without the advice of everyone on BS!

I've already covered this, but for the benefit of you and others, I'll cover it again. You can say you don't believe this if you want, but I trust the judgement of a respected professor in exercise physiology and coach of Olympic athletes who has researched the subject for decades over people on this forum. As this table shows, for 800m the difference between sea level and 10,000ft is 1.4s - and Big Bear is about 7000ft. Predicted 0.8 km Finish Times by Altitude Elevation Time min/km min/mile sea level 2:59.5 3:44.4 6:01.2 1000 ft (305 m) 2:59.7 3:44.6 6:01.4 2000 ft (610 m) 2:59.8 3:44.8 6:01.7 3000 ft (914 m) 2:59.9 3:44.9 6:02.0 4000 ft (1219 m) 3:00.1 3:45.1 6:02.3 5000 ft (1524 m) 3:00.2 3:45.3 6:02.5 6000 ft (1829 m) 3:00.4 3:45.4 6:02.8 7000 ft (2134 m) 3:00.5 3:45.6 6:03.1 8000 ft (2438 m) 3:00.6 3:45.8 6:03.4 9000 ft (2743 m) 3:00.8 3:46.0 6:03.6 10000 ft (3048 m) 3:00.9 3:46.1 6:03.9 Calculations are based on data from Daniels' Running Formula by Jack Daniels PhD. GTFO err'one knows Jack Daniels just makes whiskey. He ain't a doctor no mo' than Dr Pepper!

Honestly now, have you ever tried training at 7000ft? Its a lot harder than you give it credit for. I tried running in Jasper National Park here in Alberta and really struggled, I run aout 5kms at 3500ft or so without much trouble. I'd ignore the napkin math he posted. One study is nothing in the grand scheme of journals, he'd need a list of multiple to have people believe what he is saying is correct. Not to mention it's not taking into account equipment worn, the ground, incline, intervals or the temperature.

Seriously, 7000ft is not that high. As for the intervals thing, I was told Canelo is resting for 2 minutes or so, in which case it's highly relevant. Nobody here is going to convince me that his times are respectable for a professional athlete because they simply aren't. You'd get loads of guys on this forum who could do better and I'd put a good deal of money down on myself beating Canelo. Honestly now, have you ever tried training at 7000ft? Its a lot harder than you give it credit for. I tried running in Jasper National Park here in Alberta and really struggled, I run about 5kms at 3500ft or so without much trouble.